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KDawg77

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180 Flip drilling? Anyone try it?
« on: May 06, 2008, 02:11:20 PM »
Has anyone tried what I'm terming a "180 Flip" drilling? It's placing the actual pin 180 degrees away from a virtual location around your fingers on your span and the "virtual" CG will be 180 degrees from it's actual spot, too. Picture a pin up stacked CG drilling, but flipped. The balance hole to bring the bottom weight into spec would be placed in the actual CG area and misses your flares.

What would this give you and what conditions would it work on?

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Re: 180 Flip drilling? Anyone try it?
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2008, 11:06:24 PM »
i think i had a friend who had this drill on a blast zone that he used at the us open.  he said it was his best reacting ball there.
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Re: 180 Flip drilling? Anyone try it?
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2008, 11:38:41 PM »
Before the Spit Fire was made there were a few guys doing with the fired up on here, Carl from the track forum did this with a few Rising's I believe also.

JessN16

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Re: 180 Flip drilling? Anyone try it?
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2008, 01:34:51 AM »
Consider this: If you take a Thunderstruck Solid and flip it upside down, what do you have? A Dark Thunder.

I'm surprised more people don't do this.

Jess

mrbowlingnut

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Re: 180 Flip drilling? Anyone try it?
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2008, 12:18:56 PM »
Bill what changes when you flip the AMB over, i have been hit and miss with each AMB series ball.


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standard procedure for the mass bias on Visionary AMB cores.
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mrbowlingnut

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Re: 180 Flip drilling? Anyone try it?
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2008, 12:19:50 PM »
Never even thought of this one good call.



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Consider this: If you take a Thunderstruck Solid and flip it upside down, what do you have? A Dark Thunder.

I'm surprised more people don't do this.

Jess

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Re: 180 Flip drilling? Anyone try it?
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2008, 12:25:32 PM »
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Never even thought of this one good call.



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Consider this: If you take a Thunderstruck Solid and flip it upside down, what do you have? A Dark Thunder.

I'm surprised more people don't do this.

Jess



Right that was also the idea of the Teal Rhino Pro, and the T2, you are just turning the core upside down.
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Re: 180 Flip drilling? Anyone try it?
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2008, 12:30:44 PM »
I've done with with pin blems (ones that have 7"+ pin out distances.. draw a line 13.5" from the pin through the cg and use that "mark" as the 180pin.. then just lay the ball out as you regularly would.  I think the only issue with shorter pin to cg distances (regular good specs) is that you would end up with something like a 6.5"+ 180pin to cg distance.. might be tough to get the statics correct.  Otherwise they should roll alright (but differently).

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Re: 180 Flip drilling? Anyone try it?
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2008, 01:23:55 PM »
Thinking about all the guys looking for the Fired up's I guess you could just take a Spit fire and flip it over, might be the right look they seem to want.

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Re: 180 Flip drilling? Anyone try it?
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2008, 02:35:28 PM »
This is precisely why I DIDN'T flip my 11.5-inch pro-pin Paradigm over. If I'd flipped it over to drill the negative pin, I would have inverted the core and changed the location of both the flip block and the mass bias. As it is, I have a ball that rolls completely different from my "stock" Paradigm or from anything else I own, for that matter. And it's statically legal.

Jess

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Re: 180 Flip drilling? Anyone try it?
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2008, 02:40:00 PM »
Pretty normal stuff for real long pins.  You will get a different reaction, as Jess said, because bottom flip blocks behave differently than top flip blocks.  Inverting the core tends to smooth out flippy balls or make smoother balls more angular.  Just gotta keep the statics legal, which is easier to do when you have a real long pin.

Flipping a first-quality ball over basically gives you a blem.

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