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The great one

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Wiseman Layout...and others
« on: June 23, 2004, 11:34:28 AM »
I know its been asked 100 times on here, but i never bothered to read it, and the stupid search will only let me look at the past 60 days, but what exactly is it? How does it look? What is the reaction? And is there a website that has the names and pictures of alot of layouts? Thanks before hand.
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Re: Wiseman Layout...and others
« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2004, 02:29:21 AM »
no marked mass bias(not like bomb logo, rad, whatever else has em)

quote from mario on mass bias positioning:"If we place the Mass Bias point (which is 6.75" from the pin on a line through the CG) closer to the axis, we again produce earlier roll (see Diagram 8: http://www.rollrite.co.uk/secrets/diag8-9.jpg)

so I GUESS mb marking is not needed since it is on the same line from pin to cg.

ive only got a xfactor to look at and it seems to be true...its all in line

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Edited on 7/1/2004 2:40 AM
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Re: Wiseman Layout...and others
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2004, 09:58:32 AM »
For symetrical cores the MB is in lines with the pin and CG.
On my executioner it is not marked, but they tell you how to find it.
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Re: Wiseman Layout...and others
« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2004, 10:54:13 AM »
Looks good...so in conclusion...

1) rollier equipment works better
2) weaker cores work better
3) it's not necessary to have a marked mass bias
4) shorter pins are necessary

anything else i'm missing?  if not, that all looks good, and it sounds like it doesn't matter if you're a high tracker or nott
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Re: Wiseman Layout...and others
« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2004, 02:19:19 PM »
might try on a power grove
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Re: Wiseman Layout...and others
« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2004, 03:42:33 PM »
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Looks good...so in conclusion...

1) rollier equipment works better
2) weaker cores work better
3) it's not necessary to have a marked mass bias
4) shorter pins are necessary

anything else i'm missing?


5) low top weight is good
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Re: Wiseman Layout...and others
« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2004, 03:59:23 PM »
what if it's on a used ball, something where you're not sure of the TW, would it be best not to try it?  Or is it really not TOO big of a deal?
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Re: Wiseman Layout...and others
« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2004, 08:33:14 AM »
Your driller should be able to throw the ball on a scale once it is plugged
and find the top weight.
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Re: Wiseman Layout...and others
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2004, 08:08:38 PM »
I pluged up an old red pulse, and drilled it up w/the 315 layout, this ball had about a 2 in pin, but it rolls great. gets down the lane with ease, and a very mellow backend. Great control with this ball, hope to get the same results using it on a freakazoid.
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