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jjweb

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Barrage drilling suggestion - - - - Update/problem
« on: March 29, 2004, 06:25:53 PM »
My Barrage is finally arriving tomorrow, and I would like some help on a drilling pattern.

I want it to be my dry/bone dry lane ball; I need it when the heads breakdown and the backend dry's out. But I don't want to drill it too weak... My specs are in my profile.

It's coming with a 0-1" pin, but I don't know the top weight.

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
Josh
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Re: Barrage drilling suggestion - - - - Update/problem
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2004, 11:38:33 AM »
Dril as you would any pancake type core. While it is slightly more than a pancake, it is barely more than that. The drilling will barely make any difference. A while back, I wondered what difference the pin distance might make and whether I should treat it as a 2 piece dynamic core or as a pancake core. SO I emailed Dyno-Tahne direct; here's the answer I got:

"
... it is a pancake-type design, and it does make a small difference with a bigger pin out. The cap is round and it doesn’t make much difference in how you turn it. The differential is achieved by the depth of the cap. So, I doubt if
you would see much difference side by side.
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The phrase, "it doesn't make much difference in how you turn it" refers to the position of the core and how you place the pin-CG line. It does have a larger pancake core than a standard pancake core and that adds to the potential flare, as it has a larger RG differential than the standard pancake core (like in an Ebonite Tornado Warning). SInce your pin-CG distance is so short, you'll get even less flare and it will be even better for dry lanes.

So, bottom line, place pin and CG stacked in the middle of the grip. Polishing it will add length as needed.

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Re: Barrage drilling suggestion - - - - Update/problem
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2004, 06:10:04 PM »
Good, I need all the control I can get. I shall pass the drilling suggestion on to my driller.

Thanks!
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Re: Barrage drilling suggestion - - - - Update/problem
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2004, 07:39:42 PM »
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Dril as you would any pancake type core. While it is slightly more than a pancake, it is barely more than that. The drilling will barely make any difference. A while back, I wondered what difference the pin distance might make and whether I should treat it as a 2 piece dynamic core or as a pancake core. SO I emailed Dyno-Tahne direct; here's the answer I got:

"
... it is a pancake-type design, and it does make a small difference with a bigger pin out. The cap is round and it doesn’t make much difference in how you turn it. The differential is achieved by the depth of the cap. So, I doubt if
you would see much difference side by side.
"


The phrase, "it doesn't make much difference in how you turn it" refers to the position of the core and how you place the pin-CG line. It does have a larger pancake core than a standard pancake core and that adds to the potential flare, as it has a larger RG differential than the standard pancake core (like in an Ebonite Tornado Warning). SInce your pin-CG distance is so short, you'll get even less flare and it will be even better for dry lanes.

So, bottom line, place pin and CG stacked in the middle of the grip. Polishing it will add length as needed.

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jjweb

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Re: Barrage drilling suggestion - - - - Update/problem
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2004, 11:04:29 AM »
The UPS man just dropped it off, going to get it drilled later this afternoon.

The specs on the box are: 15lbs 5oz, 3.30oz Top weight and 1-1.5" pin.

Nice looking ball!
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Re: Barrage drilling suggestion - - - - Update/problem
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2004, 10:59:48 AM »
Well I got it dilled last night; pin and CG stacked in grip as per everyone's suggestion. Can't wait to throw a few practice games with it.


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Re: Barrage drilling suggestion - - - - Update/problem
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2004, 12:12:58 AM »
I drilled up my Barrage yesterday (pin and CG stacked in grip), and noticed on about every shot I was rolling over the thumbhole. This is the first ball that I've completely rolled over the thumbhole, I have clipped the thumbhole before, but I've since worked and improved my release. I have a very good release, normally my track starts about an inch from the hole, and just can't see why the Barrage is doing it.

Is there a way to alter my release for the Barrage so I wouldn't hit the thumbhole?

If i'm throwing good shots, yet tracking over the thumb, am I losing something from the ball then?

Any suggestions on how I would fix this problem? Or did I screw myself over with another dry lane dud?
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