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Nightmare
« on: October 02, 2012, 12:49:57 PM »
Ball NPS Score: 100.00
- Description: The black/purple/lime solid DV8 Nightmare sets a new standard in aggressive hook motion for the DV8 product line as a result of the new asymmetric Nightmare core design matched with the new Class 8 reactive coverstock. The DV8 Nightmare will provide stronger hook motion in oil and an extremely quick response to friction on the backend that cuts through the pins on medium to heavy oil. The Nightmare is now the most aggressive ball in the DV8 product line.

- 2 Year Warranty
- Color: Black/Purple/Lime All colors do vary somewhat from the picture shown.
- Coverstock: Class 8 Reactive
- Core Type: Nightmare Low RG
- Factory Finish: 500; 1,000; 4,000 Siaair Micro Pad
- Radius of Gyration (RG): 2.557
- Differential (Diff): 0.052
- Hook (1-175): 200
- Length (1-235): 115
- Breakpoint (1-100): 100 Smooth Arc
- Part Number 60-105479-93X

- Ball Motion Finished with a 4000 grit Siaair Micro Pad Finish, the Nightmare skids easily through the front and mid-lane with an extremely quick response to friction on the backend creating a highly continuous motion that cuts through the pins. The Nightmare with its new Class 8 Reactive coverstock is the most hooking DV8 ball to date and should be used on medium oily to oily lane conditions.

- Reaction Setup The DV8 Nightmare can be drilled using the standard drilling techniques developed for bowling balls with asymmetric cores.

- Ball Maintenance To reduce oil absorption and remove dirt from the surface of the ball, clean your ball with a cleaner designed for reactive bowling balls.

- Warranty Look. We don’t screw around. DV8 bowling balls have been manufactured to the highest standards of workmanship and material. We warrant that they’ll be free of defects in materials and workmanship for a period of two years from the date of purchase. We agree to repair or replace the ball you bought if at any time during the warranty period it’s found to be defective in material or workmanship.

 

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Re: Nightmare
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2012, 03:41:29 PM »


Length: 40 FT

Volume:

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS



Likes: If you are looking for a ball that delivers big time hook, this is the ball for you. The Nightmare manages to cover a lot of boards but get through the front of the lane reasonably well. One of the best things about the Nightmare is the pin carry. I've seen many bowling balls through the years that even though there is a large amount of hook, the hitting power is gone by the time the ball reaches the pins. This ball has plenty of power left when driving through the pins.

Dislikes: The good thing about this ball can also be its downfall. If there is not good volume in the heads and decent length on the oil pattern, the Nightmare will find its way into the bag quickly.

OVERALL: DV8 once again addressed another need for bowlers with the Nightmare. They have a great ball to tackle heavy oil and still destroy the pins. Bowlers can truly give the competition a "NIGHTMARE" with this fantastic release from DV8

Dustin Bearden
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Re: Nightmare
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2012, 07:34:02 PM »
LANE CONDITION

THIS BALL HAS SNOW TIRES ON THE COVER!!! IT HOOKS ON ICE!!

This ball absolutely digs through oil harder than any ball I have ever thrown. In comparison to my Hell Raiser Revenge it is about 5 more boards of total hook. It is a few feet sooner and more continuous down the lane and maintains its shape through the pins for explosive pin action. I recommend this ball for longer patterns for all types of players.

I have one pin above my bridge, small shift and no Xtra hole
And another pin under bridge, small shift no Xtra hole

This is the most innovative High Performance ball ever released. Never have I been able to get my angles this steep through the front part of the lane and be confident that it will maintain its shape down lane.

Another damn GREAT bowling ball!!!

Matt Gasn
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Re: Nightmare
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2012, 03:34:22 PM »
Bowler stats:
Right Hand
Avg 300 rev rate
Ball speed: 17 mph at breakpoint from CATS program at Kegel Training Center
PAP: 4 5/16 RT, 7/16 up
Axis Rotation: 10-20 degrees
Axis Tilt: 10-30 degrees

DV8 Nightmare 70x6x35 Pin centered above fingers
MB kicked out right of thumb hole
Balance hole 3 inches right of ring finger
OOB Surface
LANE CONDITONS

#1: Lanes oiled but not stripped after previous night Cosmic Bowl (43 ft., able to see lane condition from pin deck):
Because of lanes not being stripped, I played the pattern nearly straight up, target 8 board @ 17 ft. with my breakpoint 6 board @ 42 ft.
Ball rolled very well thru the front part of the lanes and despite the extra volumn of oil did not lose any energy down lane. Once the ball found some friction down lane it maintained energy to make any angular move towards the pocket with excellent carry results.

#2: Typical House Shot for 5-man League (40 ft.):
Played Nightmare on fresh oil using my target 14 board @ 17 ft. with my breakpoint around 8 board @ 42 ft. Ball was very clean thru the heads and made an angular movement towards the pocket with excellent carry. As the night progressed with lane transitioning in the second game with carry down and the heads beginning to burn up, as I adjusted with the changing conditions the ball continued to get thru the heads very clean and still retained energy at the backend of the lanes to allow continued good scoring. With the third game, the heads were nearly burned up with carry down being a problem in this house. I made an adjustment in the third game, target 9 board @ 17 ft. with breakpoint 5 board @ 42 ft., which allowed the ball to keep getting thru the heads cleanly but have energy for the ball to make its angular move to the pocket. The Nightmare reacted well all night to changing conditions especially in the front part of the lane.

I received several comments from some league bowlers, especially from a couple of former PBA members, who were very impressed with way ball rolled thru the front part of the lane all night and the reaction once the ball read friction down lane. This is the second DV8 ball I have used recently and this ball fits my game very well and it allows me to play the deeper part of the lane. Excellent thru the front parts of the lanes, handles transition very well with tremendous results at the pins. Ball has continuous motion thru pins for excellent power and carry.
Compared to my Blue/Silver Taboo with similar layout this ball is about 4 boards stronger, gets thru the heads cleaner with a better backend reaction.

This is another great ball from DV8.

Mike DeVore
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Re: Nightmare
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2012, 07:48:28 PM »
WOW!! This ball flat out hooks. This ball gets through the front of the lane with such ease. I can get this ball back from anywhere. If you are bowling on heavy oil and/or longer patters, this ball would be a great choice for you. This ball has a very continuous motion and hits like a truck. I can't wait to test this ball on some longer patterns. I will provide updates when I do!!
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Re: Nightmare
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2012, 08:14:54 AM »
LANE CONDITION

Length:41 ft

Volume:19.3 ml / board

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): Kegel Main Street


COMMENTS

Likes:  Fast and clean through the front end, good reaction to friction.  Carries light hits very well (good energy retention)

Dislikes: no oil.  this is a heavy hooking ball.


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Best way to see what we thought is to watch our video review.
We were lucky enough to be sent the new NIGHTMARE from DV8 Bowling. We put it through its paces on KEGEL Main Street oil pattern and have brought the results to you!

Best viewed in 720HD.
« Last Edit: October 29, 2012, 11:28:17 AM by fatman_FUBAR »

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Re: Nightmare
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2012, 09:04:49 PM »
Shark Pattern

Length: 43 Foot

Volume:

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): Sport Pattern


I am a left handed
I throw 16lbs.

This ball straight out HOOKS!!!  2 weeks ago on our Friday sweeper, we were bowling on the Shark Pattern and normally I need to play inside on this pattern and I do well on this pattern and is not my favorite pattern, but after using this ball on this pattern it is now one of my favorite patterns and it is because of this ball.  I was able to play outside with this ball and before I could never play outside.  This ball hits really hard and keeps the pins low.  I led the sweeper by 45 pins and also won the sweeper and this was the first time throwing this ball.  If you want a ball that hooks a lot, you will want to get this ball.  This ball is great on Medium to Oily lanes!

The drilling I did on this first Nightmare was a simple stacked drilling with the pin just above my ring finger and a 2-3" pin.  The surface on the Nightmare is straight out of the box.

Likes: This ball is good on Medium to Oily lanes.  You can use this ball on fresh pattern, or on lanes that have some carry down.

Dislikes: the Nightmare does not work well on Short Oil Patterns.  This ball is too strong.

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Re: Nightmare
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2012, 12:05:04 PM »
Nightmare
By: Bryan Bannach DV8 Regional Staff Member

DV8 describes the nightmare as a ball that “skids easily through the front and mid-lane with an extremely quick response to friction on the backend creating a highly continuous motion that cuts through the pins. The Nightmare with its new Class 8 Reactive coverstock is the most hooking DV8 ball to date and should be used on medium oily to oily lane conditions.”

I was not sure how I wanted to drill the Nightmare.  After some discussion with my pro shop guy we decided to go with a 4” pin and a fairly large drill angle.  The Nightmare comes with an Out of Box surface of 500/1000/4000 Abralon.  I have never had much success with this surface so I decided to knock the surface down to 500/2000 before I even threw it.
 
I initially used the Nightmare on a house shot in league.  The first time I threw it down the lane I could not believe my eyes when it came out of the ball return.  It must have flared 8+ inches! It looked like almost the whole ball had flare rings around it.  But the reaction I got out of it was not exactly what I expected.  As described the Nightmare made it clean through the heads, but it never seemed to make the corner as strong as I expected.  It seemed to burn itself out.  I suspected that the surface I put on it, was just too much, and the ball was burning itself up way too early.
Before my tournament last weekend, I decided to change the surface slightly.  I changed it to 500/1000/2000.  I know it isn’t a huge change but I was hoping that the slightly higher “under” grit would help retain some energy.  The reaction did change slightly but not enough to make me fall in love with this ball.

So we went back to the drawing board and plugged and re-drilled the Nightmare.  This time we went with a 6x4x4 drilling, which put the pin above and slightly left of my middle finger, and the mass bias to the right of my thumb about an inch.

I now LOVE this ball! I get the reaction exactly as described.  It is clean through the front.  It then reads the mid-lane great, which is something I like to see, and then it makes a very strong move on the backend.  This ball now makes it back from ANYWHERE on the lane!  When I need to move in and open up my angles this ball allows me to do just that.  It also lets me close them down and play square when the lanes are tight.  It is amazing what the right drilling can do! 
 
As a recommendation to people looking to drill the Nightmare, if you are a high rev player, try not to drill it with too strong of a pin.  I did, and it did nothing but burn itself up.  This ball is very strong on it’s own, it does not need the help of a layout to make it move.
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Re: Nightmare
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2012, 06:46:42 PM »
I have drilled 2 Nightmares with my 2 favourite layouts.  One is 45x4.5x45 (pin up) polished to the absolute shiniest I can take it and the other 60x4x60 in box finish.

The lower pin nightmare is absolutely amazing.  I shot 300 my first game out swinging the lane on game 3 on USBC Red #3.  This ball gets through the heads very well for an asym solid and has a nice even arc with a very heavy roll through the pins.  This is a ball that I can use on a variety of patterns/surfaces and is responsive to the adjustments that I make with my hand, allowing me to play the Nightmare longer.

The higher pin nightmare I took to 4000 + factory finish polish with one particular house in mind that breaks down right away so I wanted a ball that would allow me to stand way left of everybody but with the recovery to still drive through the pins because I would be covering serious boards from game 1.  This nightmare gets well into the lane before rolling up hard and releasing at the end.  What really stands out about the nightmare for me is how it clears the heads and is able to get into such a strong roll while still continuing in the backend. 

The Nightmare is much longer than the Revenge and as a result covers fewer boards.  Its shape in the latter half of the lane is much rollier and even than the Terror.  Although marketed as a super hook ball, the Nightmare to me is a high performance benchmark ball that can handle oil with a fantastic roll through the pins.
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Re: Nightmare
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2012, 05:57:14 AM »
Pattern: House

Style: Cranker w/medium-high speed

DV8 has done it again with another great release. I drilled my nightmare with a 5" pin up and it hooks a ton. If there isn't a lot of oil in the middle, this ball out of the box just won't make it through the heads clean. I put a little polish on the surface and it works great on medium or fresh backends with no trouble retaining energy to still drive through the pins. A dislike for this ball is like all other asymmetrical blocks for my style, it's pretty much a niche ball for me out of the box because it is so strong, so I might keep the polish on it for now. Can't wait for more new stuff. Damn Good Bowling!!!!


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Re: Nightmare
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2012, 08:53:27 AM »

DRILL PATTERN

35 x 5 x 75

X Hole (if there is one): P3


BOWLER STYLE

Rev Rate:375

Ball Speed: 18

PAP/Track: 4 7/8 --> 1/8 up


SURFACE PREP

Grit: 2000

Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded):


LANE CONDITION

Length: 40-45 feet

Volume:

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): sport and THS


BALL REACTION

Length: 5

Back End: 5

Overall Hook: 7

Midlane Read: 9

Breakpoint Shape: arc


COMMENTS

Likes: This ball turned out exactly how I wanted it. I needed a ball that would read very early in the front and midlanes and then be smooth down lane for the fresh. This is usually the first ball out of the bag to break the lanes down and for use on longer patterns. I was able to use it for 7 games of an 8 game block on shark, and then went to a pin down hole down 2000 siaair marauder madness for the last game. This is one of my favorite balls from the DV8 line and I can't wait to get my pin up one to see how different the motion is.

Dislikes: The obvious dislike is that there needs to be oil for this ball to work, otherwise it will roll out, but its very easy to see when it does roll out... and with that drilling you can't cover a lot of boards but that wasn't the intention in the first place.



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Re: Nightmare
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2012, 06:28:44 PM »
LANE CONDITION
USBC White Pattern 41 Feet

Length:41 Feet

Volume: Medium

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):THS


COMMENTS

Likes:  THe Nightmare gives me flashbacks to the original Nexus of Brunswick, but with the ability to cover a significantly greater amount of boards.  You want to open up the lane, let me introduce you to the nightmare. 

Mine was layed out 50X5X30.  With 350 rev rate and primarily a forward roll release, most balls will pick the lane up earlier which is a great thing on Sport Conditions.  However as an added benefit, when attacking a typical house pattern, it helps to have a ball that goes and goes and goes and responds to friction so well.  Using the OOB finish, I was able to open up the lane in a way that took me back to when I first threw the Original Nexus.  Except with a better ability to corner downlane and recover.  It's a pleasant sight to see a strong ball with surface scoot through the front part of the lane and store a significant amount of energy... enough energy so that I'm throwing the ball away from the headpin and it's still getting back is a significant score booster for me. 

I have been able to toss the ball a few games on a Sport Pattern and found while other balls in my arsenal struggled to recover when looping the ball, this ball recovered and hit the pins at strong entry angles.

I am really excited about this ball in particular and the potential releases to follow this technology. 

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Re: Nightmare
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2012, 09:51:10 AM »
BALL SPECS

Pin Length: 3"

Ball Weight: 16 lbs


DRILL PATTERN

Dual Angle: 45 x 5" x 65

X Hole (if there is one): P3


BOWLER STYLE

Rev Rate: Higher, between 370 and 410 rpm, aka Cranker

Ball Speed: 16.50 mph

PAP/Track: 5 3/8" over and 7/8" up with a high track


SURFACE PREP

Grit: Box - 4000

Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded): Matte


LANE CONDITION

Length: Multiple

Volume: Multiple

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS and Sport Patterns


BALL REACTION

Length: 7/10 - Clean through the front part of the lane

Back End: 8/10

Overall Hook: 8/10

Midlane Read: 7/10

Breakpoint Shape: Angular


COMMENTS

Likes: Even with the stronger drilling, I can use this ball for most any condiditon

Dislikes: None

I have used this ball on multiple conditions, and it has a strong recovery down lane. It doesn't hook early even with the strong cover on this ball. I can use this ball on the fresh oil to help break down the pattern, and keep moving left to stay in the oil. Even with the stronger drilling I used, the ball doesn't read early and is very clean through the front part of the lane. I keep the ball at the box 4000 finish to help cut through the heavier oil and smooth out the reaction. This ball is the strongest overall reaction in the DV8 line to date. Another positive to this ball is that I don't have to play a big looping shot left of the 4th arrow, and I can keep my angles closed. If you are looking for a heavy oil ball, then the Nightmare is a great choice!
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Re: Nightmare
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2013, 08:42:47 AM »
DRILL PATTERN

Dual Angle: 50 x 5 x 30

X Hole (If there is one):

LANE CONDITION

Length: Multiple

Volume: Multiple

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS


COMMENTS

Likes: Have been able to play multiple parts of the lane with this ball and to success.

Dislikes: None

With one of the latest high-end performance balls from DV8, the Nightmare is basically hook in a box. I really enjoy the fact that I am able to take my speed and use it to my advantage with this ball. I can play up the boards when they are flooded with this ball, and when that starts to break down, I am able to move in and play a little more inside and able to throw it to the dry and still watch it recover off of there and annihilate the pins.

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Re: Nightmare
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2013, 08:10:18 AM »
LANE CONDITION

Length: 38'

Volume: 26 mL

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): sport compliant (2:1 ratio)


COMMENTS

Layout used: 70 degrees x 6" x 20 degrees

This ball has been exactly as I expected.  I drilled this ball similarly to a NeXXus that I have and as expected, this ball is a little less responsive to dry and transitions a bit slower, covering approximately 2 boards less than the NeXXus.  On all lane conditions, this ball creates plenty of length with a predictably strong motion in the back part of the lane, retaining hitting power.

Predictability is a major strength of this ball.  This ball starts up strong and responds to friction in a way that helps players read transition effectively, making moves quicker and easier.  This ball is a blessing for those that need a BIG ball in their bag that is easy to read.



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