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toneoak1

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Advice on DV8 Ball reactions.
« on: March 06, 2014, 11:34:25 AM »
I'm a left-handed tweener.  Currently averaging 229 between two different leagues in two very different houses.  My ball speed is usually around 16.5.  My revs are more than most typical lefties although I don't know the exact number.  I typically play farther right than most lefties.  I do consider versatility a strength of mine.  I am most consistent when I can swing the ball a bit.

Here is my issue...

Last season I bought a DV8 Reckless just to give the company a try.  We drilled it with the pin down and left of my ring finger.  I would have to double check exact angles.  It was based off my PAP.  When the lanes condition matches, this ball scores very well.  Trouble is, it rarely matches.  In order to carry, I have to play down and in.  There is no bellying this ball at all.  I decided to knock the shine off of it and it does roll better.  It gets into a more defined roll but I am still not able to belly this ball at all.  Corner pins beyond belief.  First game usually goes well.  When the lane transitions this ball will still find the pocket but carry declines.  The big plus on this ball is that It rarely leaves messes.  I've left a couple buckets recently when I try to move in a little and swing it.  It hits horribly.  I've tried shine, I've tried surface.  Nothing changes except for the pronounce in the roll.  Duller has been routinely better.  Even on easy shots where I swing every other ball in my bag, this one has to go straight.  I have NO choice. 

Now for the flip side that presents a real conundrum.  In two different houses over my last 4 sets I have shot 723, 724, 684 (lanes broke down very strangely 684 was high in the league) and 727.  I shouldn't complain about this stretch but with how this ball has been entering the pocket and the fact that I have been "on" recently, these 4 sets could very easily have been in the 750 range.  It's been like there is a glass ceiling that I can hit and not break.  When I get a line burned in, my shot usually improves being left handed.  I can move in a little and swing it a little and scores usually go up.  NOT SO WITH THE RECKLESS.  It seems I have to have a CLEAN 200-215 game in there somewhere (where 7-pins and 6-pins show up with devastating regularity regardless of what moves I make) with 2 big games to really spoil a BIG night.

If this makes any sense, these 720's have been frustrating. (I feel weird saying that.)  This ball finds the pocket like it has a GPS in it and looks great going in, but unless it gets to stay in it's "happy place", it carries like a wet paper bag with $75 dollars worth of groceries in it.  I've looked at the core of this ball and it doesn't seem very dynamic like a light bulb core is.  (I love light bulb reactions)

What I am really asking for here is advice on a DV8 Ball that is as strong if not stronger and has a bigger back-end move so that I can make a jump right, belly the ball when the Reckless is in a bad mood, and not lose hit, drive, or carry.  I have struggled with the last few asymmetric core balls that I have owned so I prefer symmetric. 

I don't have another ball in my bag that hits this hard and has ZERO deflection from an extreme outside angle so I want to keep it for that sake but If I could find a complimentary ball that I can belly 8-10 boards but will still enter the pocket like the reckless will... My competition would be in SERIOUS trouble!!!

Any advice would be appreciated.

« Last Edit: March 06, 2014, 11:43:48 AM by toneoak1 »

 

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Re: Advice on DV8 Ball reactions.
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2014, 11:22:29 PM »
Sounds like the problem I was having with the Nightmare..  The balls cover stock seems strong but it lack strong quick response when it hit friction...  Had to change the surface to 15k with polish and now we have the response I was hoping for...
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toneoak1

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Re: Advice on DV8 Ball reactions.
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2014, 07:37:27 AM »
It happened again...

Another set with the Reckless and another good set that could have been great.

Last night I shot 710 with one open (split), 3 six-pins, and 7 seven-pins. 

Over my last 5 league sets in two different houses, I'm averaging 238 and have left 28 seven pins!!!   Basically 2 per game.  Many of these have been on doubles or strings of strikes where they cost me as much as possible. 

I've really liked the advice I've got on here and am really looking at the Diva's now. 

Thanks to those who have added their 2 cents.

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Re: Advice on DV8 Ball reactions.
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2014, 06:31:58 PM »
I've got my Diva in my lap right now.  LOL.

Probably going with a control drill like 45 x 4 1/2 x 60 (should put pin under the bridge).  Will leave with box finish and try that, but figure I'll probably knock the shine off it.

Will have some reviews up soon enough.
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toneoak1

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Re: Advice on DV8 Ball reactions.
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2014, 11:48:53 PM »
I've got my Diva in my lap right now.  LOL.

Probably going with a control drill like 45 x 4 1/2 x 60 (should put pin under the bridge).  Will leave with box finish and try that, but figure I'll probably knock the shine off it.

Will have some reviews up soon enough.



Are you left handed? Do you have any other DV8 equipment?  If so, please post on here how you like your Diva and how it compares to other balls you have.

Thanks

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Re: Advice on DV8 Ball reactions.
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2014, 12:59:56 PM »
Here are a few options from Radical (Sister company of DV8 and Brunswick):
Grease Monkey (since you said you liked the HyRoad).
Yeti Unleashed
Torrid Affair
Motiv Regional Staff
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Striking Results Pro Shop Staff

toneoak1

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Re: Advice on DV8 Ball reactions.
« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2014, 01:38:21 PM »
Follow Up....

I took the advice of some of you on here and shined the surface of my ball hoping it would retain energy a little longer into the evening. 

It did.  I shot 727 and only left 2 seven pins in three games, and one of them I felt as soon as I let the ball go.  My fault, No hand. 

Big surprise, polish did not change the over all shape all that much.  It responded a little quicker to the friction, so even though the change of direction was less pronounced, it actually seemed to be a touch earlier.  I didn't see that coming and it still doesn't make complete sense to me but that is what seemed to happen.  I could stand in the same spot as when it was at 1000 with no polish and the ball would still get to the pocket. 

The only thing I can think up is that the core is not as aggressive as other cores making surface is less sensitive to change? Has anyone else had this experience?

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Re: Advice on DV8 Ball reactions.
« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2014, 10:58:09 PM »
For now, I'm still using a Roto Grip Horizon Solid as my benchmark.

My question is (and this will take some brain mining), what current DV8 ball does that come closest to?  I'm probably talking more motion shape than overall hook, but if there's something similar in both, I'll take it.

The general shape is a good midlane read with an arc backend.

Pin under ring 4" from PAP
MB 3" from VAL
2000 Abralon

I wouldn't mind more continuation/a little more pop downlane either, but you get the idea.



One more thing.....as I stated earlier, I've got an undrilled Diva in the floor and now there's a Marauder Madness on the way.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2014, 11:00:04 PM by Mongo »
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