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notsohotshot

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« on: September 17, 2012, 11:27:57 PM »
How much difference is there between the green/ wht Misfit and say the orange/ blue one. ????
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TADIELLO

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Re: Misfits
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2012, 03:09:33 AM »
For me the green/white has more total hook with more backend.
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Re: Misfits
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2012, 06:54:56 AM »
Id agree with Tadiello, sharper off the spot with same drillings
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bannachb

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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2012, 07:55:43 AM »
Orange and Blue is the smoothest and weakest of all the Misfits.  Yellow and Magenta is the earliest and strongest, and Green and White is the longest and most angular.

Hope that helps.
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ccrider

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Re: Misfits
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2012, 08:40:50 AM »
I thought the cores and cover were the same on all three. Just different colors.
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charlest

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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2012, 08:50:27 AM »
Quote from: ccrider on September 18, 2012, 08:40:50 AM
I thought the cores and cover were the same on all three. Just different colors.

True, but many people have reported that different colors react slightly differently. The differences noted above are almost drastically different, more indicative of different coverstocks rather than just different colors.
« Last Edit: September 19, 2012, 10:51:24 AM by charlest »
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Re: Misfits
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2012, 09:08:26 AM »
I recall one of the bowling magazines mentioning this in their review when comparing the original two color releases.
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bannachb

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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2012, 09:19:13 AM »
Charlest is exactly right about the colors.  And don't read too much into my post.  The differences are minute.  When I say earlier I mean maybe a foot.  When I say strongest, it is only by MAYBE 2 boards.  And I only notice these differences on sport patterns.  The Misfits were intended to all be the same, however the colors tweaked the reactions VERY SLIGHTLY.
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Re: Misfits
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2012, 01:52:00 AM »
My red/blue misfit was a very strong ball. A lot stronger then what I expected from the entry level ball. A lot closer reaction to an Activator series coverstock.
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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2012, 12:24:33 PM »
Quote from: bannachb on September 19, 2012, 09:19:13 AM
Charlest is exactly right about the colors.  And don't read too much into my post.  The differences are minute.  When I say earlier I mean maybe a foot.  When I say strongest, it is only by MAYBE 2 boards.  And I only notice these differences on sport patterns.  The Misfits were intended to all be the same, however the colors tweaked the reactions VERY SLIGHTLY.
It could just as easy be that the pour, although intended to be the same from batch to batch, was not the same. Or the surface finish may not be exactly the same from ball to ball. I am not buying that dye color affects hook potential.
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2012, 12:39:27 PM »
Or is it the different colors have different swirl patterns and it gives the illusion of certain reactions and in reality they are the same? Without it being rolled by Throbot and everything being the same, I don't buy in to the colors making the difference either!!
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Re: Misfits
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2012, 01:13:57 PM »
BTM made the color comparison to total hook in the Misfits.

http://above180.com/dv8-damn-good-bowling-balls-by-brunswick
See Joey Cerar's site with an interview of Billy O about color 5:15 as to proprietary info.  so yes there is a difference between colors and total hook.

About color Matt McNeil made some inference in his The Look video about blue/orange/red balls and hook.  VG, etal.

My driller believes that white is the most total hook.  Interesting that Mo used white in the AMF XS Bone.

Then you can get into dyes vs. pigments.





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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2012, 08:10:41 PM »
Scott, you miss the point. The fact that one ball hooks more than the other does not mean that the extra hook is caused by the difference in color.

All things being equal, hook or traction is caused by the friction coefficient of the particular surfaces.

If there is a difference, the difference would come from the effect that the dye has on the resin, thus leading to a more porous surface. This effect would be caused, not by the color, but by the chemical reaction between the chemicals in the dye, and the resin used to make the ball.

I remember reading the study and do not recall any significant conclusions being reached that indicated difference based on a particular dye color.


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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2012, 08:15:45 PM »
Listen to the podcast at 5:15 and argue with Billy Orlikowski.   Of many industry reps he would probably know more than any of us.
http://above180.com/dv8-damn-good-bowling-balls-by-brunswick

I just stated what is on the podcast and manufacturers are not giving out proprietary info.  Just stating what is out there not my opinion one way or another I could care less.

Also see review on original Misfits written up on BTM when they came out.


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Scott, you miss the point. The fact that one ball hooks more than the other does not mean that the extra hook is caused by the difference in color.

All things being equal, hook or traction is caused by the friction coefficient of the particular surfaces.

If there is a difference, the difference would come from the effect that the dye has on the resin, thus leading to a more porous surface. This effect would be caused, not by the color, but by the chemical reaction between the chemicals in the dye, and the resin used to make the ball.

I remember reading the study and do not recall any significant conclusions being reached that indicated difference based on a particular dye color.
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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2012, 10:39:18 PM »
I looked on their website and saw no differences noted between the colors. In fact, they are all listed under the same tech description, with the only change taking place with the colors. http://dv8bowling.com/balls/misfit/

If there is a difference, DV8 is not hyping it.
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