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Equipment Boards => DV8 => Topic started by: lilpossum1 on May 27, 2015, 10:40:18 AM
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When DV8 first started, it seemed to be one of the next big companies. It had quite a showing in my area. Now nobody seems to be throwing it anymore. I haven't seen any of their newer stuff thrown, with newer being the last two or three sets of releases. A friend just visited one of the best pro shops in the area and said that there was only one DV8 ball in stock, and the driller doesn't carry anything else by them. What happened to them? They seemed to have a cult following for a while.
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I think Motiv passed them by as the "new" company.
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Yep, what north face said.
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So everyone wanted to try DV8 because it was the new kid on the block, but now everyone wants to try Motiv?
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Idk, I think people just don't think its cool lol
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So everyone wanted to try DV8 because it was the new kid on the block, but now everyone wants to try Motiv?
I think that Motiv will last longer at being popular than DV8 did. Their balls seem to be of excellent quality, covers seem to soak up less oil, covers accept changes really well when it comes to changing the cover and over all, the quality and performance of Motiv balls seem to be second to none.
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I look at it as if a new ball from a company or an entire new line, like DV8, comes out and is the hot new thing but then fades somewhat quickly, it is usually because the ball(s) are just not as good as others. Customer demand tells all.
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I agree with the notion that Motive may have taken over as the "new" and cool thing, but I disagree that DV8 has gone down or is lacking in quality gear. The DV8 balls that I've used have been fantastic, and I've seen many other bowlers have tons of success with them as well. If their popularity has gone down, it has more to do with exposure than it does quality. In most areas, bowlers go with what the pro shops in that area carry.
When my area had a Brunswick staffer in a shop, you saw tons of Brunswick balls on the rack. When there was an Ebonite guy, most of what we saw was Ebonite and so on and so forth. That's one of the reasons why shop staff connections are so important for manufacturers. Most bowlers go with what the local guy/gal recommends. As such, I don't think that DV8 or any other label has necessarily gone down in quality/productivity. It's just a matter of getting the balls into the right hands so that they get pushed/promoted as much (or more) than the other stuff out there.
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Gene is right.
I've noticed it might depend on the pro shop guy's relationship with a ball company or ball companies. If the pro shop guy happens to be a staffer, you're likely to see more of that brand in bowler's hands.
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Gene is right.
I've noticed it might depend on the pro shop guy's relationship with a ball company or ball companies. If the pro shop guy happens to be a staffer, you're likely to see more of that brand in bowler's hands.
Maybe and maybe not, in my house the pro shop guy is Brunswick but there is much more Storm/Roto being thrown. Not saying Brunswick/DV8 don't make good stuff, just that it seems experienced bowlers will use what works not what the pro shop might be pushing.
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Gene is right.
I've noticed it might depend on the pro shop guy's relationship with a ball company or ball companies. If the pro shop guy happens to be a staffer, you're likely to see more of that brand in bowler's hands.
Maybe and maybe not, in my house the pro shop guy is Brunswick but there is much more Storm/Roto being thrown. Not saying Brunswick/DV8 don't make good stuff, just that it seems experienced bowlers will use what works not what the pro shop might be pushing.
Storm has gotten so popular it damn near sells itself.
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A lot of the bowlers I know are parent company loyal. They either like Storm, Ebonite, Brunswick, or independents. Storm has themselves and Roto Grip. Brunswick has themselves, DV8 and Radical. And Ebonite has themselves, Track, Hammer and Columbia.
And if you look at the parent companies, you will see popularity rotate from one brand to another. For a while, Roto Grip was being talked about more than Storm. Right now, I would say Radical is stealing some of what DV8 had established and for Ebonite, it is a toss-up here between Track and Columbia as far as fresh talk.
Brunswick may or may not care where they get their sales from but as a brand, DV8 is probably more niche brand in my eyes.
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IMO I think it is lack of marketing and being connected to Brunswick. With Brunswicks recent situation I think people were hesitant due to not knowing future of the company. When Brunswick moved to Mexico, I stopped stocking, but still sold when a customer wanted one. I brought DV8 in and they were a hit then fizzled out. I then brought Radical in and had no success with them as far as selling where I use the Radical Score and really like it.
As far as staffers, that is a joke. Ball companies want them in popular area that hopefully promote large sales. Here in Wyoming, I think there is one Roto Grip staffer and that is it. As a pro shop owner, I have tried getting ball companies in to demo balls and they have no desire to visit Wyoming because of our small population. When a staffer uses and reviews a ball, how often do you see honest feedback. Seems it is always fluff and this ball is absolutely fabulous and every bowler will love it and should have 3 in their bag.
Didn't EBI just clean house? Maybe now that Brunswick has been purchased, bowling will see some changes to return them to a top company again. During the Rhino, Zone and Inferno years, Brunswick was the only brand in my bag.
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IMO I think it is lack of marketing and being connected to Brunswick. With Brunswicks recent situation I think people were hesitant due to not knowing future of the company. When Brunswick moved to Mexico, I stopped stocking, but still sold when a customer wanted one. I brought DV8 in and they were a hit then fizzled out. I then brought Radical in and had no success with them as far as selling where I use the Radical Score and really like it.
As far as staffers, that is a joke. Ball companies want them in popular area that hopefully promote large sales. Here in Wyoming, I think there is one Roto Grip staffer and that is it. As a pro shop owner, I have tried getting ball companies in to demo balls and they have no desire to visit Wyoming because of our small population. When a staffer uses and reviews a ball, how often do you see honest feedback. Seems it is always fluff and this ball is absolutely fabulous and every bowler will love it and should have 3 in their bag.
Didn't EBI just clean house? Maybe now that Brunswick has been purchased, bowling will see some changes to return them to a top company again. During the Rhino, Zone and Inferno years, Brunswick was the only brand in my bag.
One local pro shop here in OKC told me some time back that even though Brunswick isn't all that popular here anymore, it is the more popular overseas. True or not, I don't have a clue, just repeating what I was told.
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In our area, not a single shop carries Motiv. They all carry multiple balls in the Brunswick, DV8 and Radical lines. I think it just depends on the operator and whether they might be on staff or have a preference.
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In our area, not a single shop carries Motiv. They all carry multiple balls in the Brunswick, DV8 and Radical lines. I think it just depends on the operator and whether they might be on staff or have a preference.
No Motiv? Where do you live? Alaska? Lol.
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In our area, not a single shop carries Motiv. They all carry multiple balls in the Brunswick, DV8 and Radical lines. I think it just depends on the operator and whether they might be on staff or have a preference.
No Motiv? Where do you live? Alaska? Lol.
Been to Alaska, and they have MOTIV. Hawaii though, seeing a MOTIV bowling ball is few and far between. Some pro shops have 1 or 2, but you don't see them that much here. Storm, Big B, and EBI rules the land here.
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Been to Alaska, and they have MOTIV. Hawaii though, seeing a MOTIV bowling ball is few and far between. Some pro shops have 1 or 2, but you don't see them that much here. Storm, Big B, and EBI rules the land here.
You are right. There is Motiv up here. Actually there is ONE Motiv ball for sale in one pro shop in the big city. LOL.
Everything is always area dependent. Brunswick, DV8, and Radical dominate up here because they have staff here. Storm is a distant 2nd...Motiv is hard to find on the rack, and nearly impossible to find in a pro shop. This has nothing to do with the quality or performance of any equipment, just simply what PSO's prefer to offer based on what the demand is. Matter of fact, we have a shop here that sells lots of Lane1 equipment, more so than some other top brands. Why? Because that PSO likes that brand and pushes it to his customers.
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dv8 ball the unruly for heavy oil still a great ball
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The proshop owner and the sales staff is a huge roll in what will be displayed and what will be pushed.
For my location there is no shop that stocks and displays amf/global, Motiv, Seismic, Visionary, Legends ect. Seen a few Motiv balls and none of the others.
Two shops are EBI gold shops. They carry and heavily push all four brands because they have at least one employee on each brands proshop staff. They carry the new HP release of Brunswick/Radical/DV8 and that is it. Every once in a while a new Storm/Roto HP release.
Another two shops has no rhyme or reason of what is in stock. No staff members. Just random EBI, Bruns, and Storm/Roto release of all price points. They end up with lots of older stock that doesnt sell.
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It definitely has to do with pro shops. Exposure to the brand is a major component of its success or lack of success. I started to using DV8, Brunswick and Radical balls and started stocking them in the shop. The interest in them started to grow. This season, DV8 really took off in my shop. The Thug was the biggest seller. Followed by the Unruly, Divine and Outcast. They really do make a great product. They're coverstock technology has only gotten better.
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The thug pearl us actually really good, I have seen plenty. It was also one of the better nationals choices for the big rev guyys.
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I love me some DV8, just hard to get a Jab or LT out of my hand.
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No Jab as of yet but the LT48 really is that good.
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Thug, Unruly and Diva Pearl are my favs. As was the Endless Nightmre. The LT-48 has to be my hands down favorite Brunswick ball. Jab is a great ball too. Since I'm talking about Brunswick in this, I might as well ad my love for the Radical Black Reax and Yeti Unleashed.
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I love my brunswick, radical, and DV8 equipment. I only have one other ball thats not from them and thats the storm sync. My pro shop operators dad is who drills the balls for the brunswick bowlers (Chuck Gardner). We have one brunswick pro in our house and my friend is on the DV8 staff. I love my equipment so much ill probably never change to another brand again. My radical yeti untamed help me get my first 300 and my reax gusto has got me many games where I'm one away from another. Overall I have over 10-12 balls just from the brunswick, radical, and DV8 brands and ill probably never go to anything else
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The pro shop preference for a particular ball company dictates most of their ball sales. We have two pro shops in the local area. One is a BowlersMart franchise and although they stock various brands, if you ask for anything other than Storm/Roto Grip the Storm Staffer who works there does everything he can to discourage you from buying anything other than Storm/Roto Grip.
The other shop only stocks Storm/Roto and a few Cyclones because its a small shop, but will order any ball you want. And he never talks negatively about any of the other brands/balls.Needless to say, I will buy from the shop that respects my wishes for a particular brand/ball.
Storm//Roto produces some great equipment, but they are not the only one. I have been throwing mostly Motiv for the last four years and I don't see that changing anytime soon.
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my thug corrupt is a fantastic ball hits so hard either light hits pins scatter then hits the hole loud impact noise at the bowling center for me out hooks my thug unruly by 3 to 4 boards with the same drilling 50x5 x40