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coasterp

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Not happy with DV8.
« on: December 06, 2012, 06:55:55 AM »
Purchased a Terror and G/W Misfit to fit into my arsenal. I have found these two balls to be some of the worst rolling pieces I have seen. Both are very over under and this is after numerous surface changes. The couple of times I could actually get a decent reaction out the the misfit, I could only use it for a game. I then had to put it away, as any adjustment I made resulted in the typical over under reaction. Is it just me or have others come across this also? I know there is another thread about an issue the poster had with his terror. I have seen the same thing. I am not having these issues with other simularly drilled balls from other manufacturers. Any feedback is appreciated.

 

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Re: Not happy with DV8.
« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2013, 10:59:25 AM »
Jonesy, once you plug a ball, it is not under warranty any longer.

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Re: Not happy with DV8.
« Reply #32 on: January 03, 2013, 12:47:29 PM »
This is just coming from your average house hack with no skin in the game. I am not loyal to any particular ball company. I have hammer,columbia,storm and dv8 in my bag. I bought the reckless at the end of last year and this for me has been the best bowling ball I have ever owned. I just match up with it I guess. I bowled my first 800 with this ball, and I am averaging higher this year than I ever have. The last 2 weeks I have bowled a 298,and 290 which I have never had in back to back weeks.I will absolutly be getting another one. Any suggestions from the Dv8 crowd?

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Re: Not happy with DV8.
« Reply #33 on: January 03, 2013, 12:54:56 PM »
@Tim,  if I were you, I might hold out until the release of the Brutal Nightmare.  As it looks to be a monster.  It appears that it is going to work extremely well on typical house conditions.  I should get mine in a few days and can let you know.  It will be stronger than your reckless so will allow you to maybe open up the lane a little and then as they break down, go back down to the reckless.  Whatever you do, you should try to find something to compliment your existing arsenal so you have a wide variety of reactions to cover a variety of conditions.  This will elevate your game (or at least your equipment) from that of an average house hack as you so eliquently put it. 

Tim G

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Re: Not happy with DV8.
« Reply #34 on: January 03, 2013, 01:01:05 PM »
Thanks Andy. I was looking for something a little stronger to go with the reckless.

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Re: Not happy with DV8.
« Reply #35 on: January 03, 2013, 07:36:24 PM »
Jonesy, once you plug a ball, it is not under warranty any longer.

I already know that. I was asking the brunswick rep what my friend should do. The ball never made the sound until it was plugged then suddly the core separates and its not the pro shops fault? hmm... thats why was asking the brunswick rep

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Re: Not happy with DV8.
« Reply #36 on: January 03, 2013, 07:45:49 PM »
Once a ball is plugged, a lot of things could happen out of our control. The plug could have cured too fast, too hot, created stress cracks inside, who knows to be sure.

When I worked in pro shops and saw separated cores, more often than not you could blow into the thumb hole and feel it come out of the fingers or weight hole. I would then mix more plug and pour it down the hatch and let the core rebond itself.
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Re: Not happy with DV8.
« Reply #37 on: January 04, 2013, 03:51:59 PM »
What i see as a proshop owner is that, the DV8 and Brunswick balls needs to have stronger layouts than EBI and Storm/Roto.

It might be due to the length build into te cover. But a good 1" inch shorter pin to pap and they behave better.

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Re: Not happy with DV8.
« Reply #38 on: January 04, 2013, 04:04:17 PM »
Could very well be the case, the covers are a lot cleaner and more responsive downlane than in years past.

I'm sure in other parts of the country someone sees it different and drills them weaker. Strange world of bowling I tell ya!
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BWDavy

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Re: Not happy with DV8.
« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2013, 06:45:50 PM »
I just recently drilled my first DV8 ball (coincidentally a Terror) having used Brunswick, AMF and 900Global for the last 5 years.  My PAP is 5 across by 3/8 up, speed 17mph at 275rpm.  We are currently using Kegel Boardwalk for the singles league I bowl in.  The Terror is drilled 70 x 3 x 40 with a hole next to the MB. cover left in box condition.  I am a 53 year old lefty.

On that pattern the Terror gives me easy length but the strongest backend motion I have encountered in a ball, bar none!  My only carry issue was a couple of 4 pins (!!!!) from half pocket.  Now, at my rev rate, that should never happen, but it has the strongest backend motion of any ball I have ever thrown.
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Re: Not happy with DV8.
« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2013, 07:31:09 PM »
Half pocket 4 pins for a lefty... wow! That's a right turn and a half lol
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BWDavy

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Re: Not happy with DV8.
« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2013, 08:01:07 PM »
Especially for a fluffer like me.

I had to wait 2 games to use it (4 game series) until the backend had mellowed out a little.  Prior to that I used an Aftermath drilled at 45 x 1 x 45 (weak drill strong cover option).

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Re: Not happy with DV8.
« Reply #42 on: February 05, 2013, 08:55:59 PM »
Further to the previous, I used the Terror in my doubles league on Kegel Beaten Path (AMF Golden Grove house shot) last night shooting 748.  The interesting thing was, that for the first time in my 34 year career, I had 100% carry percentage from pocket hits (26/34).  THe only times I didn't strike was when I missed the pocket.  The only over/under was created by my own mistakes.

So yeah, I can safely say this one is a keeper.


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Re: Not happy with DV8.
« Reply #43 on: February 07, 2013, 07:27:38 PM »
i have not thrown a dv8 so this is just off of watching a couple of friends of mine who bowl alot like me.  i did see a little over under.  however, i have found that you need to match up to a ball.  I like throwing roto grip, but not so much storm.  i only use two main balls right now a defiant soul, and a dark star.  I tried a brunswick ball, the c system ball that is all black, don't remember.  My pro shop guy, who i totally trust, told me not to buy the ball because it would not match up, but i thought i knew better and bought and drilled it.  i threw 40 or so games and just did not get any carry, or any good consistant roll with it.  is it the ball's fault?  don't think so, as my pro said, i just did not match up to what the ball does well.  i gave it to a kid in the jr's program who loves it. 

i don't like that people bash a ball.  figure out what works for you and what doesn't and stick with it.  just my two cents

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Re: Not happy with DV8.
« Reply #44 on: February 07, 2013, 09:44:45 PM »
i have not thrown a dv8 so this is just off of watching a couple of friends of mine who bowl alot like me.  i did see a little over under.  however, i have found that you need to match up to a ball.  I like throwing roto grip, but not so much storm.  i only use two main balls right now a defiant soul, and a dark star.  I tried a brunswick ball, the c system ball that is all black, don't remember.  My pro shop guy, who i totally trust, told me not to buy the ball because it would not match up, but i thought i knew better and bought and drilled it.  i threw 40 or so games and just did not get any carry, or any good consistant roll with it.  is it the ball's fault?  don't think so, as my pro said, i just did not match up to what the ball does well.  i gave it to a kid in the jr's program who loves it. 

i don't like that people bash a ball.  figure out what works for you and what doesn't and stick with it.  just my two cents

Your need to match up to a ball is directly related to your pro shop's knowledge and capabilities as an operator to understand and apply modern techniques to putting three or more holes in a ball.

If they don't know what they are doing then the chances of you matching up to any particular ball are greatly reduced.

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Re: Not happy with DV8.
« Reply #45 on: February 07, 2013, 10:09:51 PM »
i would totally agree.  that is why he is such a good pro shop guy.  i average around 200 in multiple leagues, i have won the city tournament scratch singles last year and this one, and this year will win scratch all events.  evidently, the guy knows what balls to put me in. 

don't get me wrong, we have a lot of guys who throw Brunswick/dv8 including the pro himself.  he knows the look i want to see on the lanes, knows how i throw and is pretty much right on in his selections of balls and the layouts that will and do work for me, as evidence shows