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Title: Pitbull vs Ca$h
Post by: Bowl_Freak on October 10, 2017, 10:33:21 AM
Just received both balls and want to figure out how they compare to each other. I know they are both top line heavy oilers, how do they differ. Im planning on keeping one 2000 or so and polishing one. Only question is which one to polish and which one to keep dull.
Title: Re: Pitbull vs Ca$h
Post by: leftybowler70 on October 10, 2017, 10:49:50 AM
I would polish the cash and keep the pitbull dull as radical's equipment is designed for versatility for a variety of bowlers ' styles just my. 002 cents.
Title: Re: Pitbull vs Ca$h
Post by: Bowl_Freak on October 10, 2017, 10:55:49 AM
I was thinking that also. Same basic layout but one pin low under index @2000 and one pin high above index finger w/polish. Only due to my high track.
Title: Re: Pitbull vs Ca$h
Post by: leftybowler70 on October 10, 2017, 11:29:57 AM
I would go with that, and that should make a good 1/2 punch.
Title: Re: Pitbull vs Ca$h
Post by: leftybowler70 on October 10, 2017, 11:35:11 AM
I also dont think that polishing dv8's version of pieces would give enough consistent reaction.  Having had a number of their pieces, I experienced a lot of over/under reactions, and had better looks with a 4000 Grit pad.
Title: Re: Pitbull vs Ca$h
Post by: CoorZero on October 10, 2017, 04:09:52 PM
Eh, I might go the other way with that. Generally speaking the Pitbull is a bit cleaner/sharper off the spot than the Cash. Keeping the Pitbull at stock and polishing the Cash would kind of bring them closer together. Of course it depends on how you drill them too, and a gritty Pitbull and polished Cash are still going to be different. Just not quite what I would feel comfortable with.
Title: Re: Pitbull vs Ca$h
Post by: leftybowler70 on October 10, 2017, 05:03:01 PM
Understand your point, but again as I already mentioned dv8's equipment is already clean, and polishing over imo, could backfire, I truly believe that.

With constant designs that Phil and Mo have designed Radicals pieces, you can get almost ANY type of reaction that you seek (drilling on asymmetric, and symmetric pieces, along with surface or polish).

The op will make a decision, but to me this one makes more sense and if safer.
Title: Re: Pitbull vs Ca$h
Post by: leftybowler70 on October 10, 2017, 05:05:19 PM
Albeit both companies ' are under the same umbrella, Radical in some formulate some different materials that has their pieces stand out from others, another thing to CONSIDER.
Title: Re: Pitbull vs Ca$h
Post by: tkkshop on October 10, 2017, 07:37:59 PM
I was thinking that also. Same basic layout but one pin low under index @2000 and one pin high above index finger w/polish. Only due to my high track.
how high is your track? Those are some LONG pin distances if you are high track.
Title: Re: Pitbull vs Ca$h
Post by: Bowl_Freak on October 10, 2017, 10:49:47 PM
I track right next to my fingers and thumb. My pap is 5 11/16 x 1/4^. I find that pin high drilling work best and whenever I drill low pins they flare over thumb so maybe a pin in index finger to get bowtie around my finger. I'm going to remeasure my pap since my release has changed recently.
Title: Re: Pitbull vs Ca$h
Post by: Impending Doom on October 10, 2017, 10:57:32 PM
I track right next to my fingers and thumb. My pap is 5 11/16 x 1/4^. I find that pin high drilling work best and whenever I drill low pins they flare over thumb so maybe a pin in index finger to get bowtie around my finger. I'm going to remeasure my pap since my release has changed recently.

Bro, you know your index finger is the one next to your thumb, right? :)
Title: Re: Pitbull vs Ca$h
Post by: AlonzoHarris on October 11, 2017, 12:50:33 AM
I track right next to my fingers and thumb. My pap is 5 11/16 x 1/4^. I find that pin high drilling work best and whenever I drill low pins they flare over thumb so maybe a pin in index finger to get bowtie around my finger. I'm going to remeasure my pap since my release has changed recently.

Bro, you know your index finger is the one next to your thumb, right? :)

Maybe 7" pins are the way to go though  ;D
Title: Re: Pitbull vs Ca$h
Post by: Bowl_Freak on October 11, 2017, 06:02:47 AM
Bro, your index finger is the middle finger, not the pointer finger bro.
Title: Re: Pitbull vs Ca$h
Post by: HankScorpio on October 11, 2017, 06:35:52 AM
Bro, your index finger is the middle finger, not the pointer finger bro.

Uh, if you're going to mock the guy, you should probably make sure you are right first.

You might want to consult Wikipedia.
Title: Re: Pitbull vs Ca$h
Post by: Impending Doom on October 11, 2017, 06:36:29 AM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_finger

Can't believe I had to Google that at 630 in the morning. I haven't even had my coffee.
Title: Re: Pitbull vs Ca$h
Post by: AlonzoHarris on October 11, 2017, 07:54:58 AM
Top image result on Google. Thumb > Index > Middle > Ring> Pinky...it's got Palm and Wrist too but I'm sure we got those on lock...
Title: Re: Pitbull vs Ca$h
Post by: AlonzoHarris on October 11, 2017, 07:57:16 AM
Bro, your index finger is the middle finger, not the pointer finger bro.

Index comes from the Latin indicō, which means “to point out,” which is also where the term “pointer” comes into play.
Title: Re: Pitbull vs Ca$h
Post by: Bowl_Freak on October 11, 2017, 08:21:44 AM
My bad bros, dont hate. I have always known thumb, pointer, index, ring, pinkie. But i know people on this site are always technical and stuff. Sorry for my mistake then.
Title: Re: Pitbull vs Ca$h
Post by: tkkshop on October 11, 2017, 08:52:02 AM
My bad bros, dont hate. I have always known thumb, pointer, index, ring, pinkie. But i know people on this site are always technical and stuff. Sorry for my mistake then.
wasn't trying to call out or insult. But I am glad we cleared the layout confusion. Pin the in track is a dead layout for high track players.
Title: Re: Pitbull vs Ca$h
Post by: Impending Doom on October 11, 2017, 08:53:11 AM
No hate, only knowledge! You know that, bruh!
Title: Re: Pitbull vs Ca$h
Post by: Bowl_Freak on October 11, 2017, 09:07:15 AM
I understand pin in track is dead, thats why i put pin above/in middle finger. Unless there is another layout that would be better where I dont track over fingers on a high performance dull ball. Am I just beating a dead horse then?? I dont like reaction I get from 3 3/8 pin layouts.
Title: Re: Pitbull vs Ca$h
Post by: AlonzoHarris on October 11, 2017, 09:42:57 AM
My bad bros, dont hate. I have always known thumb, pointer, index, ring, pinkie. But i know people on this site are always technical and stuff. Sorry for my mistake then.

All in good fun! I personally was finding comedy in the sidetrack the thread took about finger names haha, nothing personal.

So lets not get hung up on where the pin actually ends up as much as what the layouts actual numbers are. What angles and pin distances have and haven't worked in the past? It's really a guess and check game with layouts till you get those one or few layouts that always seem to give you the shape and traction you're wanting.

Whichever one you decide will be the polished/length/backend ball - give it that smaller VAL/longer pin drilling and opposite for the one you want to be the dull smooth ball.
Title: Re: Pitbull vs Ca$h
Post by: billdozer on October 11, 2017, 10:08:38 AM
from what i saw, the cash retained energy better and had more movement down lane. the PB was early and rolly.

interestinly enough the cash handled more oil.....so as to which to polish, idk
Title: Re: Pitbull vs Ca$h
Post by: Bowl_Freak on October 11, 2017, 11:07:47 AM
Im used to getting responses like that, just i guess some people get technical and for some of us, the technicality isn't that important. I know what drillings work for me and my original question in original post was the differences in the Cash and Pitbull #'s and covers and which would be better. Billdozer answered my question thanks.
Title: Re: Pitbull vs Ca$h
Post by: leftybowler70 on October 11, 2017, 11:30:49 AM
Which is why I suggested the cash be polished all along as once again it's the most versatile of the two and the majority of dv8's pieces push further downlane normally.

Bill, your on point.
Title: Re: Pitbull vs Ca$h
Post by: tuckinfenpin on October 11, 2017, 12:01:35 PM
My suggestion:

Drill them both and throw them side by side OOB finish to compare. From the reactions you get, you can decide.