Post by: BrianCRX90 on September 25, 2011, 07:06:37 AM
Post by: JustRico on September 25, 2011, 03:13:05 PM
Brunswick is the parent company therefore....Reynoso Mexico
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Post by: kidlost2000 on September 25, 2011, 03:22:41 PM
"1 of 1."
Post by: JustRico on September 25, 2011, 04:57:43 PM
if you had ever been there you would know it is not Texas southern or otherwise
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Post by: banjoec on October 10, 2011, 01:12:52 AM
This is why I will not even bother reading a review for one of these "Brunswick in drag" balls.
Post by: NeumannKnight on October 10, 2011, 03:02:50 AM
oh cause it is not made in the United States? Get over yourself. Every single item in your house has parts from or assembled in another country, The clothes on your back probably say made in China or India.
I'm in the process of trying to find out where I fit in the bowling world. I do not know my tech specs of my game, but it's all a learning process.
Post by: banjoec on October 10, 2011, 03:41:55 PM
Agreed, it's getting more difficult to buy Made in the USA. But when I have the choice, I try to do the right thing. In bowling, there are still many quality choices made in the USA.
Edited by banjoec on 10/10/2011 at 3:43 PM
Post by: JohnnyRocket on October 11, 2011, 08:45:31 PM
Also check to see where your computer and computer parts are made. Also check your cars and trucks they all have parts in them that are either made in or assymbled Canada or overseas. Toyotas parts are overseas but assymbled in Tenn. So are you going to stop driving that Ford, Chevy etc and start riding a bicycle? There just isn't much anymore that is completly made in the USA. Which is sad don't get me wrong.
Johnny
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Post by: completebowler on October 11, 2011, 08:56:41 PM
10 high quality bowling ball companies are built in the USA. WHy, when you have the option of so many, would you possibly purchase one of the few built elsewhere?
Makes no sense to me.
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Post by: JohnnyRocket on October 11, 2011, 10:58:38 PM
The big questions is where did they get the materials from? US companies or overseas? That is part of the question that we do not know. Columbia uses alot of BASF chemicals in their bowling balls right. Well BASF SE is the largest chemical company in the world and is headquartered in Germany. So just because a ball is poured in the US doesn't mean that they are completely USA made. I wish they where.
Johnny
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Post by: banjoec on October 12, 2011, 03:26:21 AM
I can only speak for myself and what I think is right. I know too many struggling out of work friends to turn a blind eye. When I can make a difference, I will. You can justify anything you like with "well what about your computer" type answers. Soometimes the choices are limited, or you have no choices. But when it comes to bowling balls, we have plenty of "Made In USA" choices.
Post by: badbeard on October 12, 2011, 04:47:08 AM
Post by: kidlost2000 on October 12, 2011, 06:02:33 AM
Made in the USA means very little to most.
There are many jobs available to those that choose to work them. Some would rather make nothing then make less then their previous job.
"1 of 1."
Post by: jkiser01 on October 12, 2011, 06:04:18 AM
Or sit at home and draw unemployment till it runs out.. Those people make me want to vomit..
Now if your unemployed and out there pounding the streets to find a job, that's great. But I have heard from several people that have said "I'm not working at Target, that doesn't pay enough" Last time I checked anything is better than NOTHING!!
As far as people not wanting to use DV8 stuff because it's made in Mexico, that's a personal decision and arguments can be made for both yes and no!!!
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Edited by jkiser01 on 10/12/2011 at 6:10 AM
Post by: kidlost2000 on October 12, 2011, 07:31:45 AM
"Now if your unemployed and out there pounding the streets to find a job, that's great. But I have heard from several people that have said "I'm not working at Target, that doesn't pay enough" Last time I checked anything is better than NOTHING!!"
+1
"1 of 1."
Post by: dizzyfugu on October 12, 2011, 07:48:54 AM
Wonder why NOBODY rejects bowling balls or brands because the coverstock technology comes in many cases from German companies (BASF, Bayer)?
Funny...
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Edited by dizzyfugu on 12.10.2011 at 7:49 AM
Post by: ithinkican on October 12, 2011, 08:09:55 AM
mexico.
Post by: ithinkican on October 12, 2011, 08:10:27 AM
it is brunswick
Post by: racincowboy3 on October 12, 2011, 08:26:33 AM
The sad thing to me is that by law, in order to be considered "Made in the USA" today, the product only has to be 51% made OR assembled in the US to have that designation. Kinda makes you wonder...
As far as Big B moving to mexico and people complaining, I was there with you at first as well. But the more I thought about it the more I realized it was more because of the company and how I didn't like the Big B stuff or how it rolled for me. Now they have a different line that does work and that I like. Who is to say that the things used to make the balls didn't come from the US and that they are just made down there?
Post by: NoseofRI on October 12, 2011, 11:24:42 AM
If where the ball is made is your only concern, you might want to reconsider the clothes you where, the furniture you sit and sleep on, the cars you drive and many other things you use daily. I bet if you actually did a little more research you'd realize the Foreign car companies make just about as many cars in the US as the American Car companies. Not to mention I bet the shirt you wore to work today didn't say "Made in USA."
Post by: on October 12, 2011, 01:02:08 PM
I am slightly amazed that this is still a hot topic. We are talking bowling balls, not national security, cancer cures, or feeding the hungry of the world...
We love to bowl, but it's not life or death. The move to Mexico had to endure some growing pains, for sure, but Brunswick has hit their stride and is producing equipment that is exceptional.
Buy your bowling balls from whoever you wish, but this "selective patriotism" is old news. Frankly, if I am bowling against you, I'd prefer you be throwing something other than a Brunswick product. 
Lane Carter, Strike Zone Pro Shops - Salt Lake City, Utah
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The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation.
Edited by notclay on 10/12/2011 at 1:03 PM
Post by: Steven on October 12, 2011, 01:26:35 PM
If it's still a "hot" topic, it's because the manufacturing of higher end bowling balls is still largely centralized in the USA.
Bowling balls are one of the last bastions of manufactured goods where you have a real choice of buying domestic production. Unfortunately, we don't for most of what we buy. For instance, I'd have to look long and hard before finding consumer electronics, much less clothing, manufactured in the good old USA.
For some people, it's a real issue and part of the purchasing equation. For others, it isn't. Whatever. It just gets tiresome seeing bowling balls compared other products that are only manufactured oversees. It's an apples and oranges comparison. At least be honest in the discussion.
Post by: on October 12, 2011, 02:47:01 PM
Steven,
I understand the argument (bowling balls vs. electronics, etc.) seems to be an apples to oranges comparison. I'm not trying to make the argument that way, except that some people's patriotism seems to be rather "selective". What I do have a problem with is the attitude that if something is not make within the borders of the U.S., that somehow it's an inferior product.
We are part of a world wide economy. Like it or not. The 2nd largest economy in the world belongs to China, and Japan is 3rd. Had Brunswick moved manufacturing to Japan or China would the same people be so vocal? I doubt it.
What if a Chinese company buys one of these "American" manufacturers? In today's economy that idea isn't even a stretch anymore. All companies exist to turn a profit (a novel concept, I know) and the day may come when one or more companies sells out to a parent from another country. Things that were never even dreamed of 20 years ago are happening right before our eyes. Never say never.
Lane Carter, Strike Zone Pro Shops - Salt Lake City, Utah
Brunswick Pro Shop Staff
The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation.
Edited by notclay on 10/12/2011 at 2:47 PM
Edited by notclay on 10/12/2011 at 2:48 PM
Post by: Steven on October 12, 2011, 03:28:00 PM
Whatever manufacturing problems Brunswick may have had when they first moved to Mexico seems to have been fixed. From what I can see on the lanes, the current crop of Brunswick balls seem to be first rate. I'd hope perceptions of quality wouldn't come into the decision equation.
To your point about the fate of current domestic bowling production, it could very well be bought up by the Chinese or other foreign entity. It will be a sad day if/when it happens.
Post by: HangingBananas on October 12, 2011, 03:57:31 PM
did anyone ever stop to think about outsourcing? with the economy is the dumps, it probably got too expensive for Brunswick to operate in the States.
I am willing to bet they just outsourced their manufacturing one because everything is cheaper in Mexico (labor and payroll) and two because the US Economy is garbage right now.
regardless of where they make the equipment, the balls are freakin amazing!
I cant wait to try DV8 as well
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Post by: BrianCRX90 on October 31, 2011, 08:05:21 PM
Post by: Sunshine n Lollipops on November 12, 2011, 09:06:26 AM
Well, you just keep on being amazed at the rest of the world, jaydee.
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