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Title: Vendettaâ„¢ Black Solid
Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM

The VENDETTAâ„¢ BLACK SOLID produces a smoother transition from roll to hook by combining successful core design with a matte finish solid resin coverstock. The VENDETTAâ„¢ BLACK SOLID is engineered to perform on most oil conditions.

LENGTH:        
15 out of 20    

HOOK:      
17 out of 20

Flare - Medium

Surface - Matte

Weights - 12-16

Technical Details


Weight Block: Single Density Dual Core
Cover Stock: Reactive
Weights: 12-16 lbs
Finish: Matte
Color: Black Solid
Radius of Gyration: Low @ 2.535
Differential: Medium @ 0.042
Recommended Conditions: Medium oil
Title: Re: Vendettaâ„¢ Black Solid
Post by: DynoLess Daddy on July 26, 2003, 04:05:07 PM
IF you all like the Vendetta and the V particle, then you will really love this one.
The V Black has the control of the particle but has more hit and zip at the turn.  The Black is a ball for the those who love to blend the pattern out with a smooth roll to hook. If you would like to get a stronger turn the polish it with a light 600 gt degree.

Excellent sport!!
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Title: Re: Vendettaâ„¢ Black Solid
Post by: flow on July 30, 2003, 08:52:02 AM
People say diamonds are girls’ best friends and I’d say the Vendetta black solid is bowler’s best buddy! Since I got this ball two weeks ago, it had been my ‘main’ ball. I use it as my benchmark ball when I start in the leagues and tournaments. It is a very, very versatile ball. Providing that you follow the changes in the oil pattern and make adjustments accordingly, the Vendetta Black Solid would always work. It’s so predictable and easy to use. It gives good length yet good mid-lane read. It gives good control backend reaction yet powerful hit. Honestly I haven’t got one bad thing to say about this ball.
The surface of the Vendetta Black Solid is easily tunable for your needs and with box finish, it’s suitable for medium-light oil to medium-heavy oil.
Title: Re: Vendettaâ„¢ Black Solid
Post by: BuddiesProShopcom - Bill on August 13, 2003, 08:17:32 PM
Phil was kind enough to send one of these to Willie Willis to test and review.

We laid out this ball with the pin and cg on the grip line. With this layout we did not need a weight hole.

After a variety of lane conditions that Willie tested this ball, he found it to be the best overall ball to judging the lane conditions, and the best Bench Mark ball for Dyno-Thane. On most medium oil type shots this ball would clear the heads easy, read the midlane and then make a smooth arcing hook to the pocket. The drier shots you could move deeper inside and swing the ball more. With the heavier oil the ball was still effective, but with less hook.

Any questions, please email me.

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Title: Re: Vendettaâ„¢ Black Solid
Post by: K_Korner on September 16, 2003, 11:05:10 AM
I like this ball a lot.  It reminds me of the Vortex II Sanded.  Has a similar roll to it with a little more kick in the backend.  Hits hard, a perfect compliment to the Particle and Pearl Vendetta.  Versatile coverstock to dull or polish.
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Title: Re: Vendettaâ„¢ Black Solid
Post by: DynoLess Daddy on September 19, 2003, 01:57:15 AM
Heres the update: Can you say Damn!!!!These ball with a basic 10:30 layout (pin above and below the ring finger) gives the ultimate mid lane read. polished the cover with degree 1200 grit polish. this allowed me to open the lane up and at the same time keep the hand flat up the back when the lanes break down. Averaging 250 for last month with ball...ultimate control and power!!

Way to go Phil, Kendra and Drew....WAY TO GO!!!!
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Title: Re: Vendettaâ„¢ Black Solid
Post by: K_Korner on October 13, 2003, 10:37:47 AM
We throw on oil soak middles and bone dry outside of 7, also wood lanes.  We get carrydown from 10 to 10 to about 45ft, so we can't miss the pocket.  So I base my balls on how many 10 pins they leave or how many 9's or 8's they leave.  We will get to that later.

Most balls don't recover on the heavy middles to get around the oil from the outside... this one does.
Most balls lose their energy by the time they get to the pocket on our conditions... this one doesn't.
Most balls leave lots of 10 pins because they are weakened by the time they get to the pocket... this one doesn't.

We left the ball dull out of box.  Pin 3" @ 12:00 above ring finger, 1/2" shift of cg.  High tracker, med-high speed, medium rev rate, 2-3 boards accuracy.  He couldn't miss the pocket (like I said earlier), out of 25 balls...
2 - 10 pins
1 - 8 pin
1 - 9 pin
and 1 pocket 7-10 (ouchkabibble!)
all the rest strikes.

That is the highest rate of strike to single pins we had on a test in a long time.  I think the 2 - 10 pins were because he lost his fingers on the ball.

Overall 1-10 = (9.5)
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Title: Re: Vendettaâ„¢ Black Solid
Post by: arcright7 on October 13, 2003, 08:35:12 PM
usedbowlingballs.com,

That may explain the two 10 pins, but how do you explain the pocket 7-10 split?  Sounds like a rollout to me ;-)
Title: Re: Vendettaâ„¢ Black Solid
Post by: JuniorsProShop on October 18, 2003, 02:59:48 PM
Strong!!! That is the word I will use to describe this one. Reads the front pretty well and makes a good move around midlane. This ball hooks. And, as usual from Dyno-Thane hits the pins real hard. Drilled mine over the label with the pin above my ring. Got decent length out of it and and nice move around the midlane and a continuous arc to the pocket. Very strong ball here. This ball is great for those fresh house shots and from the looks of it will be very beneficial in your bag on a sports shot. This is a ball every bowler should ahve in their bag. Seems to be a little too strong for the drier conditions, but a small move in will make this ball work. Kepp this ball in a little oil and watch out, you have a monster on your hand. I plan on drilling another and polishing it and I will make another review. Buy this ball, you won't be dissapointed.
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Title: Re: Vendettaâ„¢ Black Solid
Post by: Mike Whitacre on November 13, 2003, 12:39:10 PM
We all have balls that we have complete confidence in. This is one of those. I wish I could have as much confidence with all my balls as much as I have with this one. This or the inferno is the first ball out of the bag. I had this drilled with pin beside ring finger cg kicked out 2”. The ball gets thru the heads clean and goes long with a lot of back end. Carry is excellent and the it has a lot of HIT. It will skate some in oil or carry down. I find this ball to be very forgiving. It is a must have. This or my inferno is the first ball out of my bag. For me this ball goes a lot longer than my inferno but hooks a lot more.
Title: Re: Vendettaâ„¢ Black Solid
Post by: person on November 19, 2003, 04:30:09 PM
I bought this ball at BuddiesProShop.com, and it has been amazing! I'm a righty croaker who throws slow and bowls at lanes that are soaked in the middle and dead dry up the outside, with weak backends.  I had it drilled with the pin at around one o'clock from my ringfinger and the cg an inch below it to the left of my ringfinger, with side weight taken out of the ball  two to three inches to the left of the thumb. The ball also has a 2-3 inch pin. (Note, im not sure if da drillin on heres rite cuz i dont have my ball to look at) If u have this ball, i think its drilling layout #2.  I got the ball shined up so it wouldn't overhook.  The first time I used this ball, i set up to about the 22 and got it out through the middle oil to the 7.  It came back strong and it hits like a MONSTER!!!!!!!  It's not the overpowering kind of hit, but it buries the pins low so they don't fly around and cause splits.  In my fifth game with it, I threw a 279! This is a great ball.
Rating: 11 out of 10.
Title: Re: Vendettaâ„¢ Black Solid
Post by: frobro on January 03, 2004, 07:17:34 PM
Ok, this is by far the UGLIEST ball I have owned. But what can I say? This ball is awesome. This is my ball for flood. It simply just hooks. I have used it on patchy shots and it does pull through, just have to move far enough left so it won't roll out. A few 10 pins here and there but they ring. I would tell you how I have it drilled but honestly, I don't know how. If anyone is looking for a solid surface ball to make a move to the pocket, this is it.
Title: Re: Vendettaâ„¢ Black Solid
Post by: jimensminger on January 28, 2004, 10:52:36 AM
This ball is the most versatile ball in the DynoThane fleet. I think I could take 3-4 of these balls and build a complete arsenal. The one I used last night(258-257-268) came to me with a 5" pin, after talking to "other guy" on drilling, we came up with the pin about an inch over the bridge and the cg in the thumb quad below the ring finger. A hole about 3" right of thumb brought the sw back to a 1/2oz , and gave me 1/2oz fw. I brought the surface up to 1000 smooth and a light coat of polish.  This is the perfect ball for me to chase the oil line, and gives me great roll, and hit. The surface of this ball can be worked to give you great variations, I've used these from 600 dull to 2000 gloss, and they all work. This is fast becoming my benchmark ball.
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Title: Re: Vendettaâ„¢ Black Solid
Post by: the prince on March 15, 2004, 07:08:22 PM
My favorite Dynothane ball - in my opinion, the cornerstone of a Dynothane arsenal.  Drilled 4x4 with the pin over the ring finger, mass bias to the right of the thumbhole.

The key for me getting along with this ball was the surface.  Out of the box, hooked at my feet.  High polish, nice length but too snappy on the back end, every half pocket hit was a 10 pin and every mistake right was a 2-8-10.  Finally, took some of the polish off with a 1000 pad and eureka ... becomes the first ball out of my bag.   With this surface and drilling, ball clears the heads as long as there is a little oil, and then arcs smoothly into the pocket without a pronounced flip on the back end.  

No good when the lanes are fried or flooded, might work on a flood but the Anomaly is a better choice.  Might work on fried heads if polished, but that's what the Crisis is for.  All in all, a versatile ball that works for me from all lines and a variety of lane conditions.
Title: Re: Vendettaâ„¢ Black Solid
Post by: tonygee on April 19, 2004, 07:12:20 PM
Drilled 6x5
Plenty o' finger
Plenty o' shine on box grit
Lanes: easier than the steering on your father's oldsmobile, don't twitch or the olds delta 88's gonna be a pair of 44's! HAHA, I get amused easily...yep

ball carry is unbelievable, I could use my right earlobe release and still strike, no 300 here for me though, I THINK SOME HO PUT THE VOODOO ON ME!  I'll throw my typical 4 jersey 5 nose 2 pocket games but that twelfth one is always SUCH A BEEYATCH!  

People!  This center is why we are all paying so much dues to ABC, hundreds upon thousands of rings and other trinkets exchange hands daily. BUT NOT MY PRESSCHUUSS, MY PREESSCCHHUS IS LOST...I must find my PRESSCCHUUS, THOSE NASTY SMELLY HOBBITS WITH THEIR FOUL SMELLING FEET, THEY STOLE MY PRESSCCHHUUSS, but SMELLY HOBBITS do not know that I have a plan, a plan to cook their smelly feet and feed it to them...yessshhh nasty Hobbits will get their due rewardsss, heeeheeeheee...HAR HAR HAR!

Oh, uh Good ball, you should buy this ball, hits like a Mack Truck.
Title: Re: Vendettaâ„¢ Black Solid
Post by: tonygee on June 04, 2004, 04:40:08 PM
What is a review really?  Is it really an objective study of how objects collide and respond...or is it just a subjective emotional opinion made by a self perceived expert which in turn is translated and twisted into a review received either positively or negatively by the reader based on his or her own experiences and his/her perception and decryption of the words written...hmmm, I dunno.

Is the sky blue because its reflecting the ocean or is it because it is refracting incoming light from space...hmmm could be...wabbit..huhuhuhuhuhuhuhuh

On with the review.

Hits like a MACK TRUCK
and i scored 300 300 301, yep a pin fell out of the setter on my 12th ball, no really
and then it died from TEC death, but I revived it though with a defribulator, I just need to remember and recharge it with a stun gun every 50 games or so.


OKOKOK, real review...hits like a 747 with the Space Shuttle on its back, hits like Brad Pitt flying round house kick in Troy, hits like the smell from Shrek's underarm pits.
Title: Re: Vendettaâ„¢ Black Solid
Post by: DynoLess Daddy on June 16, 2004, 09:11:30 PM
I will say it and say it again... this has to be one of the top 2 balls from Dyno-thane!!

Enough Said!!
by the way!!
if there is the new guy form DT
and there is the other guy from DT
does that make me the guy...(dynodaddy)
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Title: Re: Vendettaâ„¢ Black Solid
Post by: UNObowler01 on March 07, 2005, 08:51:36 PM
I have drilled so many of these that I won't go through the trouble of describing them all.  The truth is this:  This ball will recover in the midlane and have a more angular finish on the backend than any ball that comes dull out of the box.  Period.  

The medium flaring core design at work here lets this ball do all the work downlane.  Its not 'hook in a box', but this ball combats medium to heavy conditions like a champ.  One of the truest rolling balls on the market, and this ball HITS with the box surface as good or better than any ball out there.  You know a ball is good when you can put all kinds of drill patterns on them (which I have), and never have someone say that it doesn't roll good.  And, best of all, its a steal for the money.  

If you have one you know all this.  If you don't, you're missing out.  End of story.  If you're thinking about a DT ball and don't know where to start, start in the Vendetta line.  It will definitely make the decision easier.  I know I say this in alot of reviews, but this is a must-have ball.  In my opinion, one of the best-kept secrets in bowling.

UNO
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Title: Re: Vendettaâ„¢ Black Solid
Post by: Koto on March 08, 2005, 11:10:27 AM
This was the first of the Dyno Thane balls.  Ordered it on line and received it about 3 months ago.  It was love at first roll.  The ball is strong.  It moves through the heads with consistency.  I have the pin just under the ring finger to force it long and it does with a very hard snap at the end.  Tried using this ball in a reverse block condition and it holds a good track to the pocket.  Also ordered and received the Thing Lives and together with the Vendetta, I have an arsenal that will handle just about every condition.
Title: Re: Vendettaâ„¢ Black Solid
Post by: tucsonlefty on November 11, 2005, 10:31:28 AM
Drilled it up 4.5 x 3.5 with the pin very high and left about 0.75 ounces side weight.  At first, I got very good length, and then from the break point to the pins covered more boards than any ball I’ve ever thrown.  It was very impressive, but hard to control.  I brought the side weight down to 0 to rein it in a bit.  Let’s make this real simple.  I’ve been bowling for 36 years, and this is the best ball I’ve ever owned.  I bowl in a five house travel league, and this is the only ball I’ve needed to pull out of the bag.  Unbelievably versatile, dependable and reliable.  It’s just one of those balls that gives you a lot of confidence.  It struggles a bit on a flood, and there are probably better balls for a desert, but on anything in between it’s a player.  The guys at Dynothane really outdid themselves with this one.  If you don’t have one, you’re giving pins away.  And it’s not just me.  Another gentleman in our league was on the receiving end of what this thing can do, and showed up two weeks later with one in his bag.  I asked him if he’d thrown it yet, and was told that he’d just picked it up from the pro shop on the way to league that night.  First three games out of the box?  300/788 for a guy who hadn’t had an honor score in “quite a while” (his words).  The bottom line?  Good length, strong finish, hits like a truck, and you can use it almost anywhere.  And it’s even a mid price!  What more could you ask for?
Title: Re: Vendettaâ„¢ Black Solid
Post by: Aud300 on January 10, 2006, 01:37:09 PM
Ok, I recently drilled up a Black Vendetta to replace my V2 Solid ( IMO the best Bench Mark Ball ever ). I drilled the BV with a 4 3/4 by 3 layout ( my Favorite layout ) and used 1000 surface with a little finesse. This ball is uber rolly.. just continuous roll. IMO this ball has more backend than the V2 but gives you the same motion and look.
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Title: Re: Vendettaâ„¢ Black Solid
Post by: Moose Nugget on February 18, 2006, 10:18:15 PM
Drilled up my first Vendetta last night.  I have drilled a couple Black Solids for customers and couldn't believe my eyes when they got on the lanes.  This has to be THE most versatile ball out there.  After seeing how strong this mid-level performance ball is I decided to put a 4.25 X 3.75 layout on the ball.  This put the pin directly above my ring finger and CG just right of mid grip and slightly above the midline.  

Threw ball on 39' THS with terrible wood surface.  Ball had good length, smooth roll and unbelievable hit/carry.  Simple release changes allowed me to play any line on the lanes from the Twig all the way in to 5th arrow.  With a little more time I can see this ball replacing my Thing Returns as my benchmark ball.  There are several All Air Force bowlers who swear by this ball and they used it along with a Vendetta Particle Pearl and Barrage to win the Armed Forces Championships for the Air Force at the Team USA tournament in Reno NV.  Each player bowled 45 games over 6 days on 5 different sport patterns(between the team tryouts and Team USA) and I saw this ball in use by competitor's every day on each different pattern.  They just don't get any more versatile than that!!!  

A great ball from the best kept secret in the industry.

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Title: Re: Vendettaâ„¢ Black Solid
Post by: gardner on February 28, 2006, 01:54:22 PM
I'm new to the Dyno-Thane Test staff,  and I must say that I could not be happier with this ball.   My layout is somewhat agressive.   The distance from pin to CG was long.  Pin is placed to the right of ring finger,  Cg is the direction of the center of my grip with an extra hole.   This is the most predictible reactive ball that I have ever used.  I bowled on a tough pattern over the weekend.  When I started,  the cover was dull.  I had a good look,  but over the span of 4 to 5 games the cover became shiny (due to the amount of oil of course) and my look improved along with the reaction.   I would consider the Vandetta Black Solid my "when in doubt" ball.

George Gardner
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Surprise, AZ
Title: Re: Vendettaâ„¢ Black Solid
Post by: Lysosome on April 09, 2006, 05:41:51 PM
15# x-blem
pin - 3.5-4"
top weight - 2.66
drilled with Dyno-Thane #3 drilling layout, right handed

I got my DT Vendetta drilled up a few days ago, bowled a game with it after the drilling and beat my previous record, hands down. I've since bowled about 5 more games with it, and I absolutely love it. It works well on light and medium oil, and doesn't do too bad on heavy oil. It's a very versatile ball, which is what I was looking for. After using this ball, I can definately say that I will be buying more Dyno-Thane balls in the near future.
Title: Re: Vendettaâ„¢ Black Solid
Post by: forrestrcsd on August 22, 2006, 02:48:55 AM
I just got this drilled up and have like the reaction I have gotten so far. I have been working with this ball on the regional pattern #5. This is the 44 feet pattern and going inside with this ball is great. Other than some carry problems I liked the overall look of this ball.