Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
RG: 2.535 Medium
Finish: 1000 Polished
Flare: Medium
Hook: 17+
Coverstock: Reactive
Lane Conditions: Medium to Dry
Post by: BowlPro on June 11, 2002, 12:13:03 AM
The New Vendetta from the New Dynothane Company arrived
today with great expectation! As with many new releases,
We were excited to finally get this one on the lanes to
see if the new Owners, the Phil Cardinale group, could
Take this Label to the next level!
My first impression out of the box was, What a Beautiful Ball!
The Cherry/Black Reactive cover makes this one a looker!
It comes out of the box "Polished" but is fully adjustable!
The Cover is rated at 17+ Hook, and designed for Medium to Dry
Lane conditions! The New weight block design is what they call
a "Core-in-a-Core" and is completely new to the market!
We drilled our test ball (Label Leverage) 4X4 Pin, with no balance hole.
We went to our test lanes, oiled earlier in the day for the Senior Leagues,
we knew this would be a great test on lanes that had a broken down track area.
The "Vendetta was long and controlled, until it reached the back part of the
lane in which it made a "Tremendous Left Turn!"
Pins were flying everywhere!!! the Hitting Power was immediately felt by bowlers
on the next lanes! We continued to roll six straight games and found this
ball holding the lane very well even as the track area dried out more!
We could make our moves left and still get this one "Down the Lane" without
great effort and still retain tremendous hitting power! Lot's of Strikes!
Very few corner pins!!!! this ball will work great when the lane conditions get really Over/Under or Wet/Dry.
This Vendetta's Cover Stock gets down the lane and retains alot of energy!
Thoses of you who like to use "Stronger Drilling Patterns" go ahead!
This ball will let you stay in play all day long!!!
I Highly recommend that you RUN to your Local Proshop and Get this Ball!!!
You will find that it will adapt to just about any style of bowler!
Dynothane is the New Power in Bowling!
We will Highly Recommend this ball to Our Customers and to All Bowlers!
BowlPro
www.discount-proshop.com
Post by: Kevin_b on June 12, 2002, 09:49:28 PM
Kevin Black
Post by: scotoco on June 13, 2002, 12:06:54 AM
Just Remember The Word Vendette By Dyno-Thane!!!
Post by: kzilla300 on June 17, 2002, 08:43:46 PM
Went right to the lanes to try it out.
This ball rolls HARD. A nonstop hard roll.
Very strong backend reaction and WHAM.
This ball absolutely destroys the pins. Messengers flying
everywhere. Great first ball from the new Dynothane.
Post by: Train Wreck on August 16, 2002, 10:34:04 PM
I drilled up another Vendetta pin up 5" and between the middle and ring fingers and kicked the CG out with the Mass Bias down at the thumb for that little extra in the back. The first place I used the ball was a PBA regional on a sport condition. The ball was a disaster. It still reacted much later than I anticipated. If I tried to play straight up the boards I received an over reaction. If I tried to swing it I received over/under. After 5 games minus 300. Switched to another ball, which shall remain nameless, and was plus 36 for three games. Too late to cash. Next was the house condition. What a difference. On the house condition this ball was unstoppable. 45' and bang. The ball turned the corner and hit harder than anything in my arsenal. On the first drilling carry down was a problem. With this drilling the carry down seemed non-exsistent. I played 20-5 the first shift for a 685 on a very tough pair. Next highest series to me was a 582. And I was bowling on a pair where the low average was 208. 2nd set switched lanes and everybody was playing straight up except for me. I was playing 15-5. I shot 652. Lower than normal but any mistakes was my fault. The ball hit good. Buy this ball for thehouse shot not the sport condition.
Post by: smashthepocket on September 21, 2002, 12:36:18 PM
Post by: SL33PY on December 08, 2002, 10:07:59 PM
Post by: TamerBowling on December 24, 2002, 11:03:57 PM
16lbs, 3"pin, 3oz top wt.
Drilled with pin above bridge and cg just above center of palm.
Other equipment, Black Rock-drilled arc, Trauma-drilled length skid/flip, and a trusty purple Quake drilled arc.
I am lefty, 19+mph, hig revs, power stroker, high track. Usually start around 30-40 and throw over 12-20, breaking over 3-10. Since I am lefty, I cannot use any part of the lane past the 4th arrow, since it is usually flooded (lefty).
I was looking for something to fill the gap between the Particle and pearl reactive. Something not too over/under, and can get through the heads cleanly. I like a flip but I prefer the overall look to be skid-hook-flip. Rock i just hook, Trauma is more skid-tiny hook-flip.
Vendetta is exactly what I was looking for. It is easy to read the break point. Some other people mentioned that you have to be accurate with this ball. I felt like I had a really good 5-7 board cushion. Pin action is so good, you don't worry about light hits. Hardly any 7 pins. If you watch this ball roll, it gets through the heads easily, reads the break and turns hard into the pocket. It looks like it is by the 10 pin when it rolls off the deck. It goes through the pocket hard. I polished it slightly. I don't bother throwing dull stuff because I can't get them through the heads. You can imagine that particle balls drive me crazy. I don't know what to say about this ball. It is amazing so far. I have about 15 games on it. I have already thrown my first 300 and high 797 series with it.
It is great for getting through the heads and can read clean to moderate carrydown backends. Scatters pins low on the deck. Again, great carry. It doesn't sound as explosive when it hits the pocket as my Rock or Trauma, but the pins fell anyway. The other equipment has not gotten me a 300, so it must be only the sound. This ball certainly has fury!
Thanks to Phil for the help
Post by: shark300 on January 31, 2003, 10:08:32 AM
Post by: bowlingkid300 on February 16, 2003, 07:42:47 PM
Post by: junkracer on April 23, 2003, 12:10:11 PM
Has anybody heard of this ball besides me?
Comments Please?
Vinny Grudinsky Jr
junkracer@aol.com
Post by: BuddiesProShopcom - Bill on April 30, 2003, 02:17:32 PM
Willie found the ball to work best in light/medium oil lanes. He found the reaction to be very predictable with a heavy roll.
The Vendetta has trouble on heavy oil, because it was getting to much length and recover to late to enter the pocket at an optimal angle.
Great for wet /dry med conditions
I watched him throw this ball on a bunch of different shots, and the ball was clean through the front on all the shots. The ball had great recovery from the deeper inside lines, and still had good pop at the pocket.
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Post by: jjweb on May 31, 2003, 09:20:25 AM
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Post by: pjd300 on June 24, 2003, 01:50:23 PM
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Dave (a.k.a. tha fluffer) sucks
Post by: flow on July 30, 2003, 08:56:07 AM
I keep mine in 800 polished and it works great on medium to light oil condition.
Post by: topbowlinlyricist on August 05, 2003, 02:13:52 AM
pin under/touching ringfinger
cg on gripline shifted down about 1/2in. from center
this ball makes it down the lane a good bit before it turns the corner for being drilled how it is for me. but i'm not complaining. it's fitting in really nicly with my other stuff
standing 30-35 sending it over 18-20 at the arrows, this ball made it down the lane nice and jumped back hard. didn't think it would be this aggressive when i got it, isn't what i was going to use it for, but i think i can find a place for it. the conition was a walled up house shot, and from the looks of the way it rolls, i'm looking forward to testing it out on some sport conditions up at ku. i post recent stuff once i've thrown it on more than house shots
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Post by: JuniorsProShop on October 22, 2003, 05:41:14 PM
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Post by: Shonk on October 29, 2003, 12:00:46 PM
and they both roll independatly of the other. One has a 1:30 pin - CG in the palm (2.5 top, 3/4 side); I roughed the surface with a green pad, and shined it right out of the box. This ball will get through the heads clean, and will arc to the pocket - it wont make a hard left turn, but will continue to hook through the pocket. This particular layout reads midlane very well, but on longer oil will struggle (of course). Second Vendetta has pin above ring finger, CG kicked out about 2.5, with a 5 3/8 weight hole; zero top and no side; left the factory cover on it; this ball hooks - it will hook the entire lane with enough hand. Not a very controllable ball on shorter oil as the ball wants to read the front part of the lane, but on longer oil or carry-down becomes a strong ball. Will finish thru the pindeck and hits like a truck.
Post by: jimensminger on November 19, 2003, 03:24:31 PM
I finally got around to drilling this ball. With the Thing and The Thing Returns in my bag,..it's hard to try anything else. I drilled this ball with a basic pin over the ring finger, and the cg below, just at the midline. A small weight hole was put in the pap to get the statics in the finger quad down a little,...plus I wanted this ball to be smooth thru the heads. I practiced a bout 3 games with this ball on "yesterdays oil" before the lanes were ran for league. I had to move in between the 3-4 arrow and keep the ball tight because of a dry track and quite a bit of carry down. The Red/Black beauty worked great. The ball went to track with ease, made a mild turn, stored plenty of energy and struck a bunch,..I was surprised at how the ball finished through the carry down, and carried the ten pin, which is usually a problem for me when I move inside...the ball was easy to read, rolled great in the mids,..and hit well on the backend..I decided to use it in league. On the strip and fresh I played the typical house wall shot 13 to 8..The pearl cover reads the wet/dry super and is not as over/under as I would have thought being a pearl,...258-215-258,..a 4-10 in the middle of the second game on a pretty good hit for 731. This is a great mid-priced ball for bowlers that have trouble with drier lanes, and slower ball speeds. For someone looking for a good ball at great price the Vendettas are for you. jimensminger
Post by: K2PBA12x on December 10, 2003, 06:23:55 PM
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Post by: south fl bowler on January 10, 2004, 11:02:45 AM
cg kicked out 1 inch with xtra hole below pap.
this ball is a hook monster when it hits dry.
i bowl on a 42 ft pattern and i cant get deep
enough to keep it in the pocket consistently.
if i throw it right early and it bleeds off too much
energy. when i start to get carry down it goes way
too long.
it would be a great ball on a walled condition
for somebody with less hand then me.
mike
Post by: Pro Street on March 13, 2004, 11:40:10 PM
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Post by: Rich Thompson on November 17, 2004, 04:15:50 PM
Post by: cid16 on November 20, 2004, 10:04:43 PM
mine 16 lbs.
pin one inch over and right ring finger...
cg in center of grip
balance hole one inch down mid line
i found the ball very agresive,
in out of box condition
very sensitive to dry lanes.
i sanded 1500
and shine with track magic polish.
the ball now is a very much controllable,
very well lenght - carry.
it can rolls almost all night.
great peace of gear..
Regards
Rodrigo Cid16.
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"Knowledge is Power".
Post by: janderson on March 10, 2005, 04:37:23 PM
Post-Drill Specs
Weight: 15.1lbs
Pin-Out: 4 inches
Surface Prep: 2000 wet-sand, Polished with Black Magic Plus
Layout: 5.5x5.5, CG on grip center line, pin over fingers
Extra Hole: None
Static Weights: 2oz top, 0 finger/thumb, 0 side
(See profile for bowler specs)
Lane condition #1: fresh 39 feet, standard "house shot", medium volume on 12-year-old AMF synthetics.
Was able to square up in the track area (in this case, straight up 8-board) and play a medium to strong arc with length. This ball tended to accentuate the back-end movement as expected from the layout and surface preparation. Was able to defeat the typical side-to-side wet/dry over/under because pulled shots were on a fairly direct line to the pocket inside the edge of the oil. As the lanes broke down a bit, this ball allowed me to stay direct with only lateral moves necessary.
(from straight up 8 to straight up 10). Created a nice amount of area and good carry on pocket hits.
Lane condition #2: fresh 35 feet, sport-compliant 2-to-1 ratio, above average volume on 4-year-old AMF synthetics.
The ball still provided good length on this condition with a slight snap on the backend. Could play a mild swing in over 15 or square up outside of 10. Ball reaction was slightly jerky on the slight swing, but predictable and strong while squared up. Overall, this ball is probably not the best choice of equipment for sport patterns. Dulling the surface might add the necessary predictability to succeed. Again, carry was good on pocket hits.
Lane condition #3: PBA pattern C1 on 2-year on Brunswick Anvilane, fresh and broken down (see notes)
On the fresh pattern, this ball allowed me to get in as far as 20 with a swing to 13 and back. As expected, this was the wrong surface and layout combination (for me) on this ball for this pattern. Ball consistently pushed through the breakpoint. Reaction at the break point was snappish which is a definite no-no on the PBA patterns. Roughly 20 games later on the same pair, the reaction was no better. Carry was good on pocket hits, but there are much better ways to get to the pocket on this pattern.
Overall:
The ball provides good length for medium-light conditions or for squaring up in the track area. This ball suffered on the longer, heavier pattern, but helped open up the over/under house condition with lateral moves. Of the equipment I've thrown, this ball seems to be most similar to the Storm Too Hot and Ebonite Tornado.
Post by: billy2gun on September 07, 2007, 01:35:41 PM
Purchased a NIB DT Vendetta from BR.com member. It was a great and smooth transaction BTW. Thanks Leftyhi-trak!
Ball Specs:
Weight: 15lb.
Top Weight: 3.02oz.
Pin: 2.5 - 3
OOB Condition
I am a RH stroker, beginner/intermediate bowler still learning how to hook the ball consistently. I purchased the Vendetta for a Hi-Lo league which uses a THS-Christmas Tree pattern (medium oil). This is my first league experience.
When brought the ball in to be drilled, the pro at my lane was surprised to see a Vendetta. And, when I told him how much I paid for it [$55+$14 S/H= $69 total], he was even more shocked. He stated that the ball went for $189, when it first came out.
The pro drilled the ball 5x4, pin above the ring finger and CG under my palm. No balance hole. I wanted the ball to have length with a strong arc. I prefer bowling down and in.
After a practice session with the ball I learned that in its OOB condition it tends to struggle at bit in lane conditions where the backends are dry.I got length I wanted, but the ball hit a dry spot and hooked early and took a hard left, either going brooklyn or missing the head pin altogether.
If I were to use the Vendetta for dry lane conditions. I would need to add some polish to it, or bowl it straight without adding polish. But, I use my C300 Scout/R for dry lanes.
I have not yet used the ball on med. oil conditions, that'll come in a few days, as the league starts, and I am excited to see how the ball does on THS. After bowling a number of games on THS, I will update this review.
I find this ball to be very smooth and controllable, and I am very comfortable with it. I am confident that I made a great choice in selecting the Vendetta. The rest is now up to me to be a consistent bowler. I do believe this ball will help my increase my average and scores as long as I am consistent with my delivery.
Stay tuned BAT-fans! Same BAT-time, Same BAT-channel!
Billy2Gun
Post by: billy2gun on September 29, 2007, 08:51:17 PM
I have bowled some additional games with the DT Vendetta (red/black) in OOB condition. I bowled on fresh oiled Brunswick synthetic lane, THS (medium oil) at my home lane.
FRESH BACKENDS: When the backends are fresh and heavy, the ball does not hook well. In order for the ball to perform well on fresh backends altering the cover is necessary. I did not have the materials to alter the cover, nor was the pro shop open. If it were possible to adjust the cover, I mostly likely would have adjusted to 1000 or 2000 abralon with no polish. With the cover altered, I believe the ball would have performed admirably.
BROKEN DOWN BACKENDS: This is where the ball excels. On broken down backends, the ball had friction and was able to make a nice strong arc into the pocket. Due to my inconsistencies in my delivery, at times the ball when brooklyn, but was still able to make solid contact on the head pin, and produce a strike. No alterations to the cover was needed. I cleaned the ball between games.
DRY BACKENDS: On dry backends the ball lost power. It did not hit with the impact as when the backends were broken down, or beginning to break down. It must have oil on the backends to do it's stuff, or the ball needed polish. I did not have any polish with me to adjust the cover.
SUMMARIZATION: The DT Vendetta is a very solid ball. I enjoy bowling with it, and I hope to have it in my developing arsenal for a long time. The more I bowl with it, the more I learn about the conditions this ball excels in, provided of course I am consistent in my delivery. I believe with alterations to the cover to deal with the backend conditions that I mentioned above, this ball would work well, and could hold it's own.
I do find the Vendetta to be a forgiving ball. It reads the mid-lane very well and gathers strength towards the pockets. When it hits the pocket the pins will fly and you hear a "loud clap" when it strikes. It is a very unique sound!
I also think this ball would be a good choice for a beginner/intermediate bowler to learn to hook with, it would also do well in the hands of a more experienced bowler.
I may look for a ball for fresh medium oil THS to compliment my current Vendetta. Something in the medium to medium heavy range. Hopefully, I can find another DT ball to do the job. Or, find another Vendetta with same weight and pin placement, and have the cover altered.
But, alas, DT...The real DT has been outsourced by the nefarious Ebonite. Finding DT balls are rare.
Billy
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