Author Topic: Element and Vandetta Pearl? (Read 1738 times)

Da_Lefty · « **on:** December 23, 2003, 12:49:38 AM »

Hi:

For all you DynoThane guys out there. I am looking to get the Element and Vandetta Pearl this Christmas and was wondering how you guys like these 2? I am looking to use the Element on medium to heavy oil, and the Vandetta Pearl on drier oil. How well do these 2 par up on the lane conditions, i am trying to use for them? Any info i would really appreicate it?

Thanks a bunch,

Craig
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charlest · « **Reply #1 on:** December 23, 2003, 04:00:14 PM »

Craig,

I made a small comment in another DT post, entitled "Praise for the Soaker Coverstock". You can see in there what I like about my Element.
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Da_Lefty · « **Reply #2 on:** December 23, 2003, 04:00:39 PM »

Derek,

Thanks for the input. Also how is your Element drilled? How well does the Soaker coverstock hold up?

Thanks,

Craig
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If you want to be the best. You have to beat the best!!!

Da_Lefty · « **Reply #3 on:** December 23, 2003, 04:06:56 PM »

Charlest,

Do you ever find the Element to be real lane specific? Also what is the surface on your Element right now?

Thanks,

Craig
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charlest · « **Reply #4 on:** December 23, 2003, 07:32:13 PM »

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Charlest,

Do you ever find the Element to be real lane specific?

not so far. It seems to be fairly generic.

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Also what is the surface on your Element right now?

It comes 800 grit matte/smooth/dull (no sanding lines). I re-freshed it to 800-1000 with a grey nylon pad. haven't touched it since then.
(This is all in my post.)

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Phillip Marlowe · « **Reply #5 on:** December 24, 2003, 05:52:59 PM »

I personally like this combination a great deal. After a number of experiments, I tend to keep the Vendetta polished and drilled to arc, while I keep the Element at around 800. Charlest can speak to the drill patterns I tend to use. I think both should be drilled for substantial flare and length. I have a review of the Element and if you would like me to explain my view of the Vendetta, I can -- merely let it be known that used as a straight and arc ball, the Vendetta is surprisingly strong at the pins and very controllable. It also does EXACTLY what it is told to do.
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charlest · « **Reply #6 on:** December 25, 2003, 12:41:14 AM »

Mr. Marlowe writes:

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... the Vendetta is surprisingly strong at the pins and very controllable. It also does EXACTLY what it is told to do.
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I find more and more that this seems to be the secret of Phil Cardinale's design principles and their practical application: his balls do exactly what the bowler "tells" them to do, no more and, certainly, no less AND they hit.
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Da_Lefty · « **Reply #7 on:** December 25, 2003, 11:56:07 AM »

Do you think a Vendatta pearl could be used for dry lane? If drilled up weak, and polished pretty high, or would it just be still to aggressive? I just ordered one with a 3-4 inch pin, and top weight is 3-3 1/2. Any info i would really appreicate?

Thanks a bunch,

Craig
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If you want to be the best. You have to beat the best!!!

charlest · « **Reply #8 on:** December 25, 2003, 01:51:03 PM »

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Do you think a Vendatta pearl could be used for dry lane? If drilled up weak, and polished pretty high, or would it just be still to aggressive? I just ordered one with a 3-4 inch pin, and top weight is 3-3 1/2. Any info i would really appreicate?

Thanks a bunch,

Craig
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If you want to be the best. You have to beat the best!!!

Craig,

From my personal point of view, this is a judgement call because there are too many factors invovled: (I don't mean if you answer these questions that I will be able to decide for you. I mean more, these are the factors and you have to determine if and how you, the ball, and the conditions will allow you to use the ball successfully.)
- what exactly do you mean by dry; there's dry-ish, and there's bone dry desert.
- your ball speed may be high enough and your rev rate may be low enough to allow you to use the VPearl on real dry.
- The mildest drillings are pin in track and pin on PAP; they may allow you to use it on dry. But do you want to do that to this ball. Probably not.

Some people can't use the Barrage, a significantly weaker ball, on TRUE dry lanes. My feeling is the Vendetta pearl is just too strong a ball for true dry.
(Note my use of the word "TRUE". Some people's dry is other people's medium-light oil.)
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