Post by: Doc Hollywood on January 24, 2004, 12:00:38 AM
The video is a little washed out because the lighting was poor and so we tried to lighten it up so you could see it. Just click on the link.
www.bowlingkingdom.com/AnomalyBright.wmv
www.bowlingkingdom.com/anomalystroke.WMV
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Post by: jkiser01 on January 24, 2004, 03:14:12 PM
Any oil on those lanes?? IDo you have any idea of the oil pattern?
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Post by: charlest on January 24, 2004, 05:20:11 PM
It was after all an Anomaly. That sucker hooks a LOT! I'd guess it was meiumd-heavy+ oil.
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Post by: Doc Hollywood on January 24, 2004, 05:31:50 PM
By the way there was no Elixir on this ball. The ball is drill stacked leverage with a weight hole. Left factory finish
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Post by: charlest on January 24, 2004, 05:38:29 PM
I think it best to let the Soaker coverstock do its work in this case. They usually gets better and better over the first 15-25 games. They seem to love being subjected to oil. In fact, I'm amazed you can even see the oil rings. I can't see any on my Element or my Anomaly.
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Post by: Doc Hollywood on January 24, 2004, 05:51:34 PM
In this case the lane guy made a big oops and adjusted the machine wrong.
I sent you the video of the Freak on the same condition and I will get that one posted soon so people can see the difference. By the way if I tried to swing the Freak it would never finish.
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Post by: Rock77 on January 24, 2004, 06:55:47 PM
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Post by: baiki on January 24, 2004, 07:20:59 PM
Stacked means pin and CG are parallel to the first track. 3 3/8 X 3 3/8, 4 X 4 from PAP.
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Post by: Rock77 on January 24, 2004, 07:25:09 PM
Example: pin under ring, cg stacked below and pin to right of ring with cg stacked below would both be stacked leverage drillings??
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Post by: charlest on January 24, 2004, 07:59:14 PM
quote:
Doc and others, sorry for the ignorance in drilling terms, but when you say the ball was drilled stacked leverage, how does that look on the ball??
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That will serve you no purpose because true stacked leverage will look different depending on your PAP.
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Post by: charlest on January 24, 2004, 08:00:24 PM
quote:
Stacked means pin and CG are parallel to the first track. 3 3/8 X 3 3/8, 4 X 4 from PAP.
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Post by: Doc Hollywood on January 26, 2004, 03:42:30 PM
Same condition different line and different release.
www.bowlingkingdom.com/anomalystroke.WMV
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Post by: tenpinspro on January 27, 2004, 05:36:34 AM
Bring that ball out friday...I want to see what it can do since we've had oil the last 2 weeks.
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Post by: Jeffrevs on January 27, 2004, 06:13:11 AM
depending on ones PAP.... PIN 3 3/8 inches from pap, CG 3 3/8 inches from pap is stacked leverage.....
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Post by: Doc Hollywood on January 27, 2004, 09:50:34 AM
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Post by: Doc Hollywood on January 27, 2004, 11:01:21 AM
I am still experimenting with this one and may even plug it and redrill it.
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Post by: Sir Bowl-A-Lot on January 27, 2004, 11:47:48 AM
Our typical league shot is 41 feet.
Doc, can you shoot a video on say a pattern of 40 feet + ?
I am looking at the possibility of buying this ball, but I do not need another ball that skids too much through the heads, midlane, and then revs up in the backend...
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Post by: Doc Hollywood on January 27, 2004, 03:26:31 PM
I read your profile and do you really mean 45 degrees of tilt? If so that would make you more of a spinner and that would not be conducive to swinging the lanes in heavy oil. If you meant 45 degrees of axis rotation that may be much better.
In the video where I swing the ball there are 19 revs on the ball before hitting the pocket when viewed on my camera in slow motion set at 500 frames a second. I tried to throw the same shot with the Labyrinth and the Freak and they would not make it back. Often falling off into the gutter. I have bowled on heavy oil but none that would leave as much on the ball as this pattern had.
Toma - Most of that video was really dark due to shooting at the higher shutter speed. Not to mention the alley is a little dark as well.
I wish there were a few houses around here that put up longer oil patterns out here but I haven't come across any. Then again there aren't that many that put up wall shots either.
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Post by: Doc Hollywood on January 29, 2004, 04:10:46 PM
Sir Bowl-A-Lot I talked with the Laneman today and this is the info I got from him. ABC just came out and verified/graphed the lanes. The oil is Legend medium viscosity 40 feet. 4 units 0-5, 10 units 5-10 and 40 units 10-10 in the middle. The heaviest concentration is up front 15 feet then slowly tapering out 2 to 1 at 40.
I shot another video of a close up look at the ball and lane with more of a stroker shot and will post that as soon as Leftside gets that back to me.
By the way last week's video was of even heavier concentration across the middle. There were too many complaints so the pattern is as described above now. Also today there were very light oil rings on the ball today unlike the dripping stuff that was there last week.
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Post by: fiber_cut on January 30, 2004, 01:37:23 AM
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Post by: fiber_cut on January 30, 2004, 10:30:14 AM
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Post by: tenpinspro on January 31, 2004, 03:52:43 AM
You want to help revise this review as to what we saw happen on friday(1/30/04)? I have customers who think this is a hook monster bud...I never have and never will mislead any of my customers, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
When you get a chance, send me the other 2 vids, I'd like to see it. Who did you say does this again? Thanks.
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Post by: Doc Hollywood on January 31, 2004, 11:27:36 AM
In the beginning there was medium oil on the lanes with some carry down. This ball just didn't want to move on the backend as in the video. As the night went on this ball did move once it could find a little dry.
I believe this ball will recover from anywhere when it hits the dry.
At the end I was throwing it over the gutter and out to 5 and it was coming back strong. Too strong I might add. Any dry and this ball will move!!!
Rick feels that this is more of a medium oil possible a medium heavy ball but it needs dry. At least the way the ball is set up now with the factory in box finish. Now I am not as good of a bowler as Rick is but he wouldn't throw my 15lb ball he said he didn't want to risk injury. He throws the sissy weight 14lb, LOL. I had hoped that he would throw the ball so he could tell the difference.
I still feel that this ball can be set up for heavy oil by making a few changes. I am going to plug it and redrill to a different pattern one that will roll a little sooner and I will alter the coverstock. It is still factory. I feel that this ball has the potential to be a heavy oil ball with carry down. After plugging and redrilling and playing with the cover I will test and repost.
In the original video the condition was fresh and they had cleaned the backends So the ball had dry.
I apologize if I had misled any of you with the video. I will make another video for you all to see with the new drilling.
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Post by: B Pirnie on February 01, 2004, 06:43:57 PM
I was lucky in that my Anomaly will stabilize its roll with the d/t logo as the axis. I use it on the fresh with stripped backends and it stabilizes just before the pins. After a few games the ball will be progressively weaker to the pocket. You can see the d/t logo stabilize much sooner down the lane. It shows me the ball isn't skidding on carry down its burned in the fronts. This is happening on rough wood lanes with guardian overlay.
Just my view on the Anomaly anomaly is it for heavy oil or not.
Post by: tenpinspro on February 01, 2004, 10:47:28 PM
Being a shop owner over the years has made me even more detailed then I normally am. I can't recommend something to a customer just to make a sale. For those whom I've already helped know this but I will repeat"I'm not a used car salesman". We have enough of those in the business and elsewhere. Anyway, If I recommend a product that does not produce, I've lost a customer and posssibly a friend. Not in the business to get rich...just really love the game and like helping others. Thanks again for the post Doc, wasn't attacking you bud (and I Apologize if you felt I was) but I know there are many out here who listen to and respect you and if they ran out to buy this because of you, and it didn't perform? They start to lose trust in you too...thanks again.
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Post by: Doc Hollywood on February 01, 2004, 11:44:14 PM
On the same condition as the video I must say that none of the othe balls I threw could not recover from the same angle. That included the Freak, Labyrinth, Crunch, Stinger 2 piece black sanded.
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Post by: tenpinspro on February 02, 2004, 04:26:58 AM
Do you have anything stronger then the balls you just mentioned? Try them too..they should give you a much better look. Also if you didn't polish the heck out of everything, it might help.
Take that Freak back down to 600 and try it, should give you a whole different look.Last note, if you want to say I'm a better bowler(thank you), the only reason I score more is because I pay attention to what the lane actually gives you. At my incredible speed of about 14 mph(w/ my sissy weight), I HAVE to find head oil to slide and find the right amount of midlane roll and then finish to carry because I'm not throwing much more turn then you with my broken wrist release. This is having what we call the eye in bowling, being able to spot reaction and move to it to play it with the correct amount of skid, roll, and hook. The late great Earl Anthony problably did it the best because he was able to blow racks and carry a high percentage with less revs then most. If revs were the simple answer, why does Robert Smith still leave 10 pins?? The ball still has to hit the pins while it's still driving to assist in the chain reaction to carry. This is very similar to reading a green(thats why I can't putt), I can't read a green as well as my friends because I don't have the eye yet to pick up on grain and minute breaks in the green. Remember a few weeks ago when I lined you up and you went 200 and 225, that's all it is. I have a good eye to see ball reaction and what to do with it. Don't worry bud...if you pay closer attention to ball reaction, you'll learn what to do with it too soon. See you on friday....
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Post by: Doc Hollywood on February 02, 2004, 03:19:58 PM
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Post by: tenpinspro on February 03, 2004, 06:48:46 AM
If you paid attention to my writing on the skid, roll and hook effect of a ball. It would help you in carrying those 5 pins you were complaining about in your posting in Misc., evidently you don't pay attention very well which causes you to just complain vs solving your problems.
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Post by: Doc Hollywood on February 03, 2004, 10:39:05 AM
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Post by: northface28 on February 05, 2004, 02:22:55 PM
Post by: tenpinspro on February 06, 2004, 04:37:43 AM
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Post by: bamaster on February 06, 2004, 11:05:13 AM
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Post by: Mr Hammer on February 06, 2004, 11:12:02 AM
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Post by: charlest on February 06, 2004, 12:50:37 PM
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New guy - That is what I am talking about. In box form this ball needs some dry to make it back.
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I think you need to be more explicit here. This ball is so strong that it does not necessarily need very much dry, if at all, to make the turn. So much depends on the bowler (release type and ball speed), the drilling, and the oil condition (amount and pattern).
Possibly your release needs some dry; this should be stated, so as not to make a generic statement that newbies might misunderstand. Mine needs medium-heavy oil plus light carrydown; and I can deal with some medium carrydown, and this ANIMAL, this Monster of a hooker will still make the turn. If I dared to drill it with the pin under the ring finger, I am fairly certain I could use this on heavy oil, even a true flood.
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Post by: Doc Hollywood on February 06, 2004, 03:37:07 PM
I was stating what Rick and I saw based on the lane conditions we have faced to date. Tonight we look at how it performs with a different drill pattern and a coverstock tweak.
We will post the results later.
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Post by: charlest on February 07, 2004, 03:19:07 PM
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Charlest - Is your ball in box condition? Or have you changed the surface?
I've tried it at box - 1000 grit;
and with 4 coats of Neo-Tac's Control-It. applied by hand, no spinner.
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Post by: Doc Hollywood on February 08, 2004, 05:41:12 PM
Well plugged the Anomaly and this time drilled it pin under ring cg kicked right big deep weight hole in thumb positive quadrant. For those that are interested CG 2 1/2 inches right of midline and below the midplane. Weight hole is 2 inches below my PAP just past VAL and 6 3/4" from the midgrip line in line with CG. Weight hole is 1 1/8" and 3 inches deep. Coverstock sanded to 600 with a cab and on my donkee spinner that doesn't shake.
Didn't have time to throw it at all in practice. Just showed up to league with it.
Well this ball does move in the oil and and much better than before. Revs up very well and early still finishes strong. I knew that was gonna happen anyways because of the drill pattern and the cover finish. I threw it on the same condition as we were on last week and this ball could move even with the carry down. I was watching Ricks reaction with his phenom unleashed and this ball moved more boards and made it back to the pocket better than his unleashed. No ten leaves. This ball just keep driving left when it hits the pocket. Sorry Rick. By the second game I was having more trouble with it. lanes getting drier. Rick's Unleashed was working much better and by the 3rd game I just put it away. Then later after league we let this other guy throw the ball who also has an Unleashed and he really liked the reaction as well. Very smooth and he could open up the lane with it as well. By the way much better bowler than I. He told Rick to order him one as well and may also be interested in changing his pitches to what I have now.
I am surprised Rick hasn't wrote back what he saw. Maybe because I was right. Doesn't matter to me. Just thought I would post again so those of you who are interested in the Anomaly would have some more info with another drill.
By the way the videos are down cause Leftside didn't pay his bill or something like that. Once he gets his website back up then they will again be available. I might have another video as well with the new drill.
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Post by: tenpinspro on February 11, 2004, 05:36:45 AM
Let's see...the ball does move much nicer on the SAME medium condition we had the previous week. Did you forget to mention you were pointing up 7 while I was 10 left dumping the Unleashed(polished) with no hit (and a fever)169. The lanes did breakdown as usual and I was into 3rd arrow dumping the Unleashed 226 and you couldn't point it across anymore. (Sorry Doc), 3rd game I pulled out a polished Darkside into 4th arrow and shot 265. Where were you bud?? I could scan and post a league sheet to justify my scores if wanted. Merlin liked the Anomaly because he could hit it strong and it didn't move...compared to his Unleashed. The Anomaly looked very smooth and controlled where his Unleashed would have gone left, that's what he liked about it. I can also have him post as well if you like or even other guys in the league who bowl with us...my only question now is, what soft ball won't hook on med if you sand it to 600?? All I'm saying is guys, this isn't an Eliminator oil level ball..unless you have a lot of hand. It is very smooth and controlled though....
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Post by: TheBowlingKid25 on February 11, 2004, 06:18:43 AM
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Post by: TheBowlingKid25 on February 11, 2004, 06:25:23 AM
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Post by: tenpinspro on February 11, 2004, 07:20:45 AM
Just found one for you...go get'em bud.
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I just wanted to say that the track havoc HOOKS alot. My track havoc drilled 3 3/8 pin above ring finger and the mass bias in the thumb hole cg in line with the pin slightly kicked out to the right no weight hole. The Havoc hooks more then all of my balls .......
Anomaly,crunchtime,black vendetta,cherry bomb,super charge,flipside wow pearl,hotwire,and Killer instinct sanded. If your looking for a big hooking ball for medium to heavy oil this would be a great choice, And the price of this ball is not bad at all .
Post by: Sir Bowl-A-Lot on February 11, 2004, 07:30:08 AM
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Post by: Doc Hollywood on February 11, 2004, 09:05:07 AM
I have less tilt then you so it is much easier for you to get the ball down the lane when the heads dry out. I also must point out that though I took the cover to 600 you are also comparing the Unleashed which is a light load particle to a resin cover.
Why do you think I put the Anomaly away? Not enough head oil remember, bowler created reverse block. That is why I went to the time zone with a label drill and MB in a weak position. I also piped the ball down the lane because I changed my release.
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Post by: tenpinspro on February 11, 2004, 09:32:09 AM
Can't we please just stop this? Can't we just agree to disagree? I really don't want to do this anymore...I'm still sick and this is giving me a headache on top of it. You're my friend bud...I don't care what you use but we have to win this half to make roll-offs or my wife's going to be mad at you and me! Let's pleeeease just stop......talk to you later bud, thanks.
Rick
Post by: Mr Track on February 11, 2004, 02:59:05 PM
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