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Title: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: manu57 on May 24, 2006, 06:41:53 AM
Other manufacturers have had some information leaking out for their new line-ups.  Anyone have any Dynothane news? A new CM? 44? anything?
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Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: tekneek on May 24, 2006, 02:52:59 PM
unless things have changed the next release is scheduled in July, it's going to be a gem......from what I hear.
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Capt Ramius "Vasili, give me one ping, and one ping only"
Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: shelley on May 24, 2006, 03:00:58 PM
The 44 Magnum came out about two months ago, if that.  The ZR40 was early '06.  I'd like to see another ball with the CM core, but I'm not sure where to put it in the lineup.  There aren't any high-end solid reactives except the TL which is quite old (I love mine), but with the solid/pearl mixes they've got, there doesn't seem to be much missing, reaction-wise.

SH
Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: tekneek on May 24, 2006, 03:38:11 PM
you're in the ball park, but just luke warm.
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Capt Ramius "Vasili, give me one ping, and one ping only"
Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: shelley on May 24, 2006, 03:42:17 PM
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you're in the ball park, but just luke warm.


CM/solid Soaker ATC.  Green and orange, like the original Element only blotchier (uhh...).

SH
Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: tekneek on May 24, 2006, 03:58:58 PM
The Element is my fav ball, followed by the Thing Returns and the Mag
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Capt Ramius "Vasili, give me one ping, and one ping only"
Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: manu57 on May 24, 2006, 04:34:08 PM
If it's a "jem" it's probably another Element.  Probably a solid since they are missing that.  I would like to have a less aggressive CM.  My CM is amazing in the first game or so, but I have to put it away once the oil goes because it is just too much ball.
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Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: AllAirForceTwice on May 25, 2006, 10:24:14 AM
Where is Bowl Expo this year? I hope it is Vegas... only 7 hrs away!!!
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Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: manu57 on May 25, 2006, 02:35:18 PM
Hey Hulkzone


Flood: Pure Energy
Heavy-Medium: CM
Medium/Benchmark: Vendetta Black
Dry-Medium: Zr40 or Vendetta Pearl

Go find a Vendetta Black.  Best Benchmark Ball Dyno ever made.  They still have some at www.ballcellar.com.  Pure Energy is a great flood ball.  Supposedly the Vendetta Black is not discontinued, but it is hard to find.  I'm starting to stockpile some for myself.


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The only difference between Genius and Stupidity is Genius has its Limits
Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: shelley on May 25, 2006, 02:59:42 PM
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www.ballcellar.com.  


Question for you DT guys.  Why is the TL such an expensive ball?  I've seen on a few sites with discontinued or older stuff (the DT site still lists the TL as a current ball, though) having the high-end stuff (even Energies and later) for $15-20 cheaper than the TL.

Any particular reason for that?  I got a good deal on mine, and I'm very happy with it, but I was curious.

SH
Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: Moose Nugget on May 25, 2006, 06:57:22 PM
Bowl Expo's in Vegas this year.

BLack Vendetta is a great ball and the 44 Mag is just as good.  I have both and it is a toss up for my benchmark.  Been using the Mag more because I like lower RG equipment.  I laid them out differently, if the Mag is a touch too strong I just grab the Black and go to town.  IMHO both are equally good benchmark material.

Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: newguy on May 27, 2006, 11:45:04 AM
discount market is sometimes controlled by availability, the Thing lives is such a good ball not many people want to close it out.
Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: manu57 on June 01, 2006, 07:27:02 PM
So we still have no leaks for upcoming balls beside the next one being a Jem?
What would like to see next?
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Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: jimensminger on June 01, 2006, 07:45:23 PM
not a GEM,..it's a JIM
Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: Goof1073 on June 01, 2006, 08:05:16 PM
Just wait and see what the new one is...

...honestly I can wait as I'm having way too much fun with the 44 Magnum!!!
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Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: tekneek on June 01, 2006, 11:13:48 PM
Yeah, got another Mag on the way, thinking of an entire 3 ball arsenal of Mags, I'm into purple, LOL Purple Haze, humm, not a bad idea for advertising gimick, Hendricks made it work, right Jim, you know you can remember those days, or are they still a fog???? lol
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Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: manu57 on June 02, 2006, 11:24:01 AM
The reason I keep asking is I have a problem.

I have a CM currently as my first ball.  OOB condition drilled Pin under ring 4" from PAP CAP on VAL below PAP.  Ball is absolutly amazing.  Average has gone up over 15 pins last season.  I even won most improved bowler for the league.  Anyway, when the oil leaves the heads and the carry down starts building the ball is too much.  I know it's not meant for that so I pull out a Zone Black ICE drilled 3 3/8 x 5 Pin next to the ring and CG in palm.  This ball gets through the heads, but reacts too aggressively off the dry.  I am a high speed player with medium revs and lower axis tilt.  I was looking at an Energy to replace the Black Ice, but if a Pearl CM comes out I think that might be better.  Would an Energy work?  What drillings would benefit me for my "medium ball".  I stand with the center dot between my feet and throw 16-18 MPH.

 Any suggestions?

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Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: jimensminger on June 02, 2006, 11:59:03 AM
we should see white smoke soon,..
Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: northface28 on June 02, 2006, 12:00:46 PM
Moving off the friendly confines of the "center dot".
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Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: manu57 on June 02, 2006, 12:06:35 PM
I know northface.  I do move, but it becomes quite a struggle.
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Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: Billy Ray on June 02, 2006, 01:27:04 PM
They must be coming out with more than one ball I just received a discontinued list with a bunch of DT balls on it.
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Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: legend4life95 on June 02, 2006, 01:55:04 PM
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They must be coming out with more than one ball I just received a discontinued list with a bunch of DT balls on it.
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Like which ones?


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Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: shelley on June 02, 2006, 02:43:10 PM
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They must be coming out with more than one ball I just received a discontinued list with a bunch of DT balls on it.

Like which ones?


I'm curious too.  The driller I've been going to stocks mostly recently-discontinued stuff, whatever he can get for cheap.  I paid $150 for my TL, with grips and a thumb insert.  He even threw the balance hole in for free.

He did try to sell me a Big Deal, said it was a great ball.  Might be true, and I'd've been tempted if he hadn't followed up "great ball" with "I think it'll be discontinued in a few weeks, and two months from now it'll be $40 cheaper."  Not the best sales pitch.  

SH
Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: wulfpackbwlr on June 02, 2006, 04:32:30 PM
It is quite hard to get any leaks on here I must say.  Strangely the staffers and employees keep their mouths shut.  You're killing me people.  44 Magnum is awesome ball.  Wish someone had told me it would make me laugh at my The One.
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Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: newguy on June 03, 2006, 07:50:05 PM
Only if Webster makes it out of the tour trails.
Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: Goof1073 on June 03, 2006, 09:12:52 PM
Ya know Jeremy as a long time Dyno user hearing buzz words like EFX, Concept, Cubic/R, etc. just makes miss my old pieces!!
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Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: Billy Ray on June 04, 2006, 11:50:28 AM
This is list i received:
DYNO THANE    Discontinued
VENDETTA MAXX
ELEMENT AU79
VENDETTA PEARL REACTIVE
THE THING LIVE
ENERGY
HIGH ENERGY
HIGH ENERGY
PURE ENERGY
CRISIS PEARL

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Edited on 6/4/2006 11:51 AM
Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: Billy Ray on June 04, 2006, 11:52:10 AM
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It is easy for the staff guys to not leak an info on new balls............... they don't even tell us..Just kidding Billy.....Come on Billy tell them about the new urethane Wayne Webb efx pearl........
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DYNOTHANE REGIONAL STAFF


Storm Never let us know about the new stuff early enough when I was on staff with them. But now I get alot more inside info but can't post any of it or I am dead meat!

Dude did you get your 1099 yet from Nationals? LOL

I had no idea you posted on here!
You tell them about the new balls. You probably have them punched up already!
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Edited on 6/4/2006 11:50 AM
Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: Billy Ray on June 06, 2006, 08:29:48 PM
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Billy Ray.....  I wish I wasn't getting that 1099 for this year......That one is going to suck come tax time..
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Dude you made that 44Mag look awesome and made the shot look like a league shot. Beats donating like alot of us did.
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Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: newguy on June 08, 2006, 08:07:05 AM

short memory syndrome. I told you guys what was next a while ago.....
Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: bowler04 on June 21, 2006, 11:08:27 PM
The threshold.
 I Have no Idea on the specs or cover makeup. Steve Jaros was throwing it on the shark pattern in league and it looked very good.
Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: tekneek on June 22, 2006, 06:59:06 AM
THRESHOLD assymetric core single density 2.51 rg - .055 rg diff, totally new cover,Nex Gen, particle pearl cover A W E S O M E
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Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: tekneek on June 22, 2006, 11:52:22 AM
only in color, that's as far as the coincidence goes.
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Capt Ramius "Vasili, give me one ping, and one ping only"
Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: MAJM on June 22, 2006, 12:33:51 PM
I've been looking for a heavy oil ball. I have a C-Mass but it seems better suited for medium oil. Would the Threshold be a heavy oil ball?
Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: tekneek on June 22, 2006, 12:37:53 PM
yes sir it would be a good choice, another would be the Pure Energy.
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Capt Ramius "Vasili, give me one ping, and one ping only"
Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: gfh2a on June 22, 2006, 12:43:13 PM
My pure energy is allergic to oil and it is at oob.  But my centrifugal mass cut right through also at oob.

George
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Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: tekneek on June 22, 2006, 12:57:04 PM
my PE burnt up at 800 had to take it to 1200 to get the desired reaction.
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Capt Ramius "Vasili, give me one ping, and one ping only"
Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: tekneek on June 22, 2006, 01:09:56 PM
Not soaker, totally new cover, totally new core, Max line
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Capt Ramius "Vasili, give me one ping, and one ping only"
Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: manu57 on June 22, 2006, 01:51:06 PM
HEY MAJM, If my CM sees any dry, I have to put it away.  You might want to look at the way it's drilled if it is not moving in oil.
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Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: MAJM on June 22, 2006, 02:32:44 PM
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HEY MAJM, If my CM sees any dry, I have to put it away.  You might want to look at the way it's drilled if it is not moving in oil.
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What is the surface finish on your C-Mass?
Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: manu57 on June 23, 2006, 07:09:58 AM
A little birdie told me that, sometimes, when a ball comes out of the plant at Storm, the balls don't necessarily have exactly what finish they are suppose to.  My CM was turning when I first bought it, but after the birdie let me in on this, I brought my ball back to my driller and had him quickly hit it with an 800 grit pad and the ball came to life.  I believe, that this brought it to the correct OOB surface.  It is now my Heavy Oil ball.  I thought i was going to have to get a PE also, but it was not necessary.
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Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: tekneek on June 23, 2006, 07:22:18 AM
I had not heard of that problem, but then again I'm not prevey to all info, just the offical leaker of new ball info, and a THH, (typical house hack) with a drilling addiction.LOL
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Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: manu57 on June 23, 2006, 08:49:34 AM
"Supossedly", because I don't know the process, There are discs that sand the balls or polish the balls.  If they are loose or dulled out, they do not get exactly the finish needed.  Honestly, all I know is after Lonce hit it with 800 the ball is now a rediculous oil monster.  I was a little disappointed when I first got the ball on oil, now I'm looking for something less aggressive. I was hoping for the CM2 to come to the states, but it doesn't look like it will.
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Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: tekneek on June 23, 2006, 10:26:59 AM
a .44 would be a good addition, excellent ball for most any house shot with some oil in the heads. I drilled on last week with a 4 1/2 pin to pap with mb at 75* for a very high average house bwler and it out hooks his Seek and Destroy by 3 boards on a fresh shot. He bowled last night shot 682 but got crushed by my Energy's 728. Ya reading this RR? Nice little set.LOL
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Capt Ramius "Vasili, give me one ping, and one ping only"
Title: Re: Any New Balls on the Horizon?
Post by: manu57 on June 23, 2006, 10:48:53 AM
I was actually thinking of an Energy or a ZR40.  Or, if something comes out in a pearl this year.
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