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manu57

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Centrifugal Mass?
« on: August 12, 2005, 01:13:02 AM »
Does anyone have any specs or know if this ball will be out before the beginning of the season?

 

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Re: Centrifugal Mass?
« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2005, 11:55:09 AM »
Could have become the Band Leader with this one.(performance wise) This may redefine the term Asymmetrical.

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Re: Centrifugal Mass?
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2005, 01:54:06 PM »
Well, newguy, if it is 800 grit or so I will be happy to be one of the 76 trombones in the big parade.

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Re: Centrifugal Mass?
« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2005, 03:14:47 PM »
I am ready to join the band too.
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Re: Centrifugal Mass?
« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2005, 04:56:10 PM »
Found out it is going to be a Pearl/Solid mix like the High Energy.  Unfortunately, that is not what I'm looking for.  It looks Like a Rule Delta 1 for me this season.

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Re: Centrifugal Mass?
« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2005, 05:54:44 PM »
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Found out it is going to be a Pearl/Solid mix like the High Energy.  Unfortunately, that is not what I'm looking for.  It looks Like a Rule Delta 1 for me this season.


Do you already have a High Energy and/or an AU79 that you are already crossing a Soaker pearl/solid off so quickly?
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« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2005, 06:07:15 PM »
From the information I have gotten it is going to be just solid no pearl mix. I would hold off and see what it looks like.

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Re: Centrifugal Mass?
« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2005, 09:14:10 PM »
This is their first asymetrical ball right?
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Re: Centrifugal Mass?
« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2005, 09:27:13 PM »
Hey Charlest I'm trying to put together a 3 maybe 4 ball arsenal.  I have a med-lite ball and a spare.  I need something for med-heavy.  The Pro Shop is telling me to get a UI.  I hate that ball only because everyone has one where I bowl and i know there is better out there.  Therefore, I have been looking at 800grit solid balls.  I bowl on synthetics with what seems to be 90% of the oil by the pins.  It almost feels like your bowling down hill.  I am a stroker and throw 17-19 MPH by what the machine says. I got an email back from Billy at Dynothane saying it was a mix cover.

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Re: Centrifugal Mass?
« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2005, 09:38:54 PM »
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Hey Charlest I'm trying to put together a 3 maybe 4 ball arsenal.  I have a med-lite ball and a spare.  I need something for med-heavy.  The Pro Shop is telling me to get a UI.  I hate that ball only because everyone has one where I bowl and i know there is better out there.  Therefore, I have been looking at 800grit solid balls.  I bowl on synthetics with what seems to be 90% of the oil by the pins.  It almost feels like your bowling down hill.  I am a stroker and throw 17-19 MPH by what the machine says. I got an email back from Billy at Dynothane saying it was a mix cover.

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You do know how "grabby" those Soaker coverstocks are, don't you?

My only point is, well there's two -
1. you (not you personally) don't know a ball just by whether it's solid, resin, pearl resin, combo resin, particle pearl or particle solid or combo particle.
2. you don't know a ball (what it is, what it will do for you) until you read or see enough tests or try one yourself and really know what it is.

I think it's very presumptuous of you to knock it off (your list of possible useful balls), so to speak without actually knowing about the ball. You may be right, or you could be VERY wrong. We, you, I, everyone (except the DynoThane testers) just do not know a darned thing about this ball.

if you want to go with known balls, that's one thing, but you started this thread.
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manu57

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« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2005, 10:10:58 PM »
I Agree with you 100% Charlest.  Being the scientific guy I am, I am very impressed with Dynothane's technology. I am also behind newguy in what he says about Asym balls, and pretty much everything else he's posted here.  I really want to try a Dynothane product.  You are correct, I do not know how grabby Soaker coverstocks are, and honestly, I have never actually seen a Dynothane ball.  They are pretty much off the radar here.  Everyone at my lanes in NJ throws Ebonite, Brunswick and Storm for the most part. I have some time before my league starts and I will definitely wait to see what this ball can handle.

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« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2005, 09:25:24 AM »
Alright where is "New Guy", I am waiting to hear why assymet after all he has posted in the last year or so. Many a good conversation has been taken on with the subject of assy vs symet cores and his statements of not making a measureable difference due to the strength (or lack of) by the MB.

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« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2005, 10:04:22 AM »
Thanks otherguy, but I am fed up with my partical balls.  I am looking for versatility with the ability to handle carrydown.  "IF" the CM does what I think it will do, that is the ball for me.
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Re: Centrifugal Mass?
« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2005, 10:08:28 AM »
Hey Lefty, if you read newguys earlier post " Could have become the Band Leader with this one.(performance wise) This may redefine the term Asymmetrical".  I'm sure this will be something very interesting.  I don't think Phil would go back on what he has previously said on this message board.  He must have figured a way around his bias "no pun intened" of Asym. balls.  I can't wait to see how he did it myself.
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Re: Centrifugal Mass?
« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2005, 10:52:18 AM »
OK you've forced me out of hiding.
1) We have a design that has a strong enough Z axis so that it will not move after it has been drilled. It does not migrate toward the largest whole like many, most or all the others do.
2)It is strictly based on physics (centrifugal forces to be exact) and thier distances from the Centrifugal Axis Point
3)The migration is not in an arc as most balls are, it migrates directly across the ball (this would require 2 full pages to explain so trust me on this) If you put tape in your axis and marked it than tape the ending axis at the pins and marked it, than tape several points between the 2 points and see where they lock up like 25 feet,35 feet and 45 feet. you can plot a migration of the axis of rotation. This balls heads nearly straight across.
4)I would not launch a asymmetrical core if it fell under the same category as the existing products on the market. This is different and it is better. We found it lasted way longer into the sessions than current asymmetrical core balls and as you all know that is way I really like symmetrical core balls.
5)We have a perfect match with core and cover and this is the most important aspect of the launch.

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Re: Centrifugal Mass?
« Reply #30 on: August 26, 2005, 03:03:41 PM »
Thanks for your time, will be interested in the new equip when released. Outside of the marketting and tech jargin what is the performance benefit in laymens terms?