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Equipment Boards => Dyno-Thane => Topic started by: Ric Clint on February 23, 2005, 02:57:02 PM
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I just have to say, my Energy is a turd.
I know that people will get on here and probably BLAST me and say I'm a moron. But let me say that my THING LIVES is one the best balls I've thrown in a long while... Many 700's with this ball and also an honor score as well to it's credit! Best Medium/Heavy Oil ball in the game! The THING LIVES is the ball that got me turned on to DYNO THANE. And I thought if all the SOAKER's rolled as great as this one, that I would have a new favorite ball company.
I hope and pray that the ENERGY I got is a BLEM, or a DEFECT... because this ball doesn't cover much ground in the backend at all.
My Energy is drilled with the PIN above ring and CG slightly out from the grip... basically a 4 3/4" x 4".
I tried it on 2 different shots... one was a broken down shot and the other was a fresh shot and the Energy didn't match up with neither one. No recovery at all.
Usually surface changes help... but not with this ball.
It comes out of the box kind of dullish actually. So I polished it up before I even threw it because I figured it would be too early for me (and I knew if I didn't like it, that I could just scuff it back up).
With a polished coverstock, the ball just rolled and rolled with no recovery so I thought maybe the ball was not creating enough friction and was going to long... so then I scuffed it down a little (close to box finish) and it still was rather weak.
My Thing Lives is drilled PIN above ring (4 3/4" x 4")... and my Storm Recharge is drilled PIN above ring (4 3/4" x 5 1/4").
The Thing Lives is sanded to 600 and the Recharge is glossed up pretty good.
My RECHARGE had a strong backend on both shots as did my Thing Lives. The Thing Lives being earlier with still a big backend... and the Recharge being longer and cleaner with a strong backend.
I let 2 friend's throw this ball tonight after I seen the weak reaction I was getting... and both of them agreed that something was not right with this ENERGY.
I wanted to make a post about this in this forum to see if any of the Dyno Thane Guru's, or people "in the know", had an answer.
I'm truley disapointed in this ball.
I hope and pray that the ENERGY I got is a BLEM, or a DEFECT.
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Did you scale the to check the cg before drilling? Seems that plenty of balls from that factory have cgs miss marked.
I drilled an Energy for the first time yesterday. The ball was left in box condition. It did want to burn to early on the house condition but had a great reaction for the guy on the ABC pattern.
My only thought is maybe the polish you used isn't working well with this coverstock. Maybe it is dud.
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Ive had the same problem as you. I had mine drilled Monday night, threw it on a burnt up shot...and had 0 recovery. Tried to slow it down..still nothing. I had 4 other people throw it, all with ample amounts of revs, and still nothing. Im going to contact dynothane today, ill tell ya what happens.
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Same problem here too. I have tried it polished and scuffed, bowled 25 games on 3 totally different conditions bit just reacts like a spare ball. My first Dynothane ball is a big disappointment, Lets hope its a defect.
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I just had conversation with dynothane about finding out defects i was told to put small amount of lane oil on the ball if it sits on ball you have a defect if it some soaks in ball is good. I have one coming in and was concerned of how to tell if ball is bad run or good run and was told this is how they have been testing the runs.
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Has anyone called Dyno-thane and spoke to someone there?? I would for sure think something is wrong if 3 different people have drilled this ball up and are that unhappy with it.. Somethings not right here..
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If they only made a ball that would carry that da_n 7 pin (and I am right handed!!)
jkiser01
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Jim they realize there is a problem and were very helpful i was impressed this go round about willingness to figure out if there is a problem. I am sure everyone will get balls replaced and they will keep my business if i get a bad ball and replace. I am crossing fingers that i get a good run ball next week
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When I posted the problem with my Anomaly everyone thought I was an idiot, now there all of a sudden "Might be a defect" from a company that reassured me they have no defects?
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-DP3
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Windoor they know there is a problem give them a chance to fix it, Billy Yinger will be back monday he is aware of what is going on and they are going to replace the defects. Call him monday i think you will get another energy or a different ball i have heard of them doing this for other people.
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I called this afternoon and they told me the same thing, to take a drop of lane oil and put it on the ball, if it absorbs it all in like 4 mins then the ball is ok. I have to wait till monday for the tech to get back in before i can get a new one coming. Everyone makes mistakes...it just depends on how some companies handle them. It seems like dynothane is doing the right thing by replacing the "defect" balls released.
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I called this afternoon and they told me the same thing, to take a drop of lane oil and put it on the ball, if it absorbs it all in like 4 mins then the ball is ok.
When you tried this test, did it work or what were the results?
I talked to Dyno Thane and I think they are gonna send me another one.
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Have fun with it
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My Dt likes to bash Shawn B.
note the truth>>>>>(Dt..1st .... Shawn 2nd)
VISE AMATEUR STAFF
Dynodaddy@earthlink.net
www.dynothane.com
Edited on 2/25/2005 0:26 AM
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Guys I have done the test on a number of balls with a few that didn't pass. But it doesn't mean that it is a dud...I have shot an 800 with a ball that was considered a recall and had plenty of recovery...don't let the out of box cover fool you...
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My Dt likes to bash Shawn B.
note the truth>>>>>(Dt..1st .... Shawn 2nd)
VISE AMATEUR STAFF
Dynodaddy@earthlink.net
www.dynothane.com
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Yeah, saw on here some guy had a 898 recently and I sort of knew his pain.
I hate when those balls have a slow breakin sort of like you had Jim it really frosts me.
REgards,
LUckylefty
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Let me tell you first hand....Dynothane has stood by and will continue to stand by their products.. REMEMBER...They also have the best customer service staff in the country....Always helpful and ever so nice!!!!
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My Dt likes to bash Shawn B.
note the truth>>>>>(Dt..1st .... Shawn 2nd)
VISE AMATEUR STAFF
Dynodaddy@earthlink.net
www.dynothane.com
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Thanks to the good people at Dynothane, my ball is being replaced, although I wasn't the only one at my local bowl to have this problem. Dynothane are doing all they can to get this isolated problem sorted.
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For the people that have had their's replaced...what did you have to do with your old ones?
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-Chris: DJ's Pro Shop : Auburn, MA
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We ask that they be returned. Wouldn't want any bad one in the field. Also we want to prevent the temptation of anyone to say they have a bad one and really do not.
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By the way we haven't seen a second post from Ric clint after he called the energy a turd in his post. I was wondering if he was treated properly and if so than maybe a post to let everyone know how we treated him would be nice. I would hate to think that those that bash before we can fix a problem would not comment on how customer service handle the problem quickly and with the customers best satisfaction in mind.
Edited on 3/3/2005 1:56 PM
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Thanks for the info Phil! I believe that my shop's owner is talking to Billy about an Energy or Two that were not well received by their owners.
Still have high hopes for this ball though once any issues have been delt with.
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-Chris: DJ's Pro Shop : Auburn, MA
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Just waiting for UPS to pick my old one up and drop off my new one, should hopefully have a better update in the next couple of days.
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Well he drilled a second Energy for one of our customers (a stroker lefty) and does this one reacts MUCH better for him! Ball makes a much more pronounced move off of the corner and just seams to read the patter better than his first one. Shot a 730 something with it last night and seems very happy with the new one.
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-Chris: DJ's Pro Shop : Auburn, MA
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By the way we haven't seen a second post from Ric clint after he called the energy a turd in his post. I was wondering if he was treated properly and if so than maybe a post to let everyone know how we treated him would be nice. I would hate to think that those that bash before we can fix a problem would not comment on how customer service handle the problem quickly and with the customers best satisfaction in mind.
Phil,
I didn't mean any offense to you about your ball or creation! I probably shouldn't have called the Energy a "turd". lol. Plus, in my original post, I said that "my" Energy was a turd and that I let 2 of my friend's throw this ball that I have after I seen the weak reaction I was getting... and both of them agreed that something was not right with "this" ENERGY that I had received. I wasn't talking about all of the Energy's produced at the Dyno Thane factory. I hope you understand that, and I hope you're not upset with my comment. At that time I didn't know about other people having problems with there ENERGY's... I was just speaking of "my" ENERGY. And I posted my thoughts on this site to see if anybody else had this problem with their Energy.
The reason I haven't made a post since all this happened is because I was waiting on my NEW Energy to get here and then I was gonna throw the ball and then report back here on it. So it was a "timing" type thing. But I was gonna post soon!
Yes, I was treated properly by Billy! Me and Billy talked on the phone for several minutes and we handled everything like true adults!
It's just after paying $145.00 for a ball that is suppose to hook, and then throwing the ball and it not hooking at all... I was a tad upset.
I've thrown some of the other SOAKER's and you've done a great job with them... EXPECIALLY the Thing Lives. It's a one of a kind!
I've heard several other stories and it seems that there have been several people that happened to get a BAD batch of ENERGY's.
Dyno Thane is currently replacing my Energy and it shall be here soon...
So stay tuned for a new post by me giving my thoughts on the NEW ball that I get!
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We've accounted for and gotten back all the problem balls and replaced them.
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my energy is polished and just sits there and rolls... only time it worked good was out of box and had to play tight... if i got it out it sat there with no recovery as ric clint sed.... wondering wuts up with that and wut can be done
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Big "B" Is Where It's At
Sherman
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Just looking through and noticed a lot of the posts have been deleted.
Damage control?
Were defective balls shipped to customers or not? Or were they only shipped to staffers as was posted?
Rick Clint seems very happy with his replacment ball. Was the first one a defect? I'm sure someone at Dyno-Thane has had a chance to examine the returned ball by now.
Any one care to clarify?
I'm not a staffer but I still got a "bad" one. My 1st ENERGY was indeed a defect.
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just dont know how to throw it .. thats funny... anyways... the ball will be good for fried backends... or ripping it up the boards.... thought it would cover more lane than it does thats all
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Big "B" Is Where It's At
Sherman