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Title: ZR40 compared to original element
Post by: cooksey on February 10, 2006, 05:51:15 PM
Hey all, how do they compare if at all? Opinions appreciated from those that have thrown both as I loved the original. Thanks for your input.

cooksey
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Title: Re: ZR40 compared to original element
Post by: charlest on February 11, 2006, 05:26:30 AM
Not intending to steal your thread, but had an Element and have read what many have said about the ZR40. They seem more complementary than comparative. I think the original is probably much earlier and handles more oil, up to heavy medium oil without scuffing. The new ZR40, being a resin pearl,would probably need scuffing or outright sanding to handle the same amount of oil. I coul dbe wrong.

Maybe a comparison of the new ZR40 with the closer-in-performance Element AU79 would be better, more informative???
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Title: Re: ZR40 compared to original element
Post by: cooksey on February 11, 2006, 09:41:15 AM
charlest, you are "probably" right about the oil handling of the new and old Elements but I figured I would throw the question out there just to make sure as the coverstocks are slightly different I believe. Never hurts to be informed.

cooksey

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Title: Re: ZR40 compared to original element
Post by: Pin_Daddy on February 11, 2006, 03:18:48 PM
quote:
just to make sure as the coverstocks are slightly different I believe. Never hurts to be informed.

cooksey

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Actually the coverstocks are a lot different...about the only thing that they have in common is that they are soakers.

I belive that the Element was the first soaker and is a 1000 grit smooth finished solid soaker coverstock.

The ZR40 is the newest development of the soaker technology and is a 1500 grit polished completely pearlized soaker cover.
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Title: Re: ZR40 compared to original element
Post by: charlest on February 11, 2006, 04:26:18 PM
Pin Daddy is quite right; that's another factor I forgot. The original Soaker, especially in the Element was fairly grabby (lane grabbing). The new Soaker covers seem more ... versatile.
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Title: Re: ZR40 compared to original element
Post by: Fedster on February 11, 2006, 04:30:16 PM
I am not a great bowler, but if you compare the core between the original element and the Zr40, that the core is inverted in the Zr40.
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Title: Re: ZR40 compared to original element
Post by: DynoLess Daddy on February 11, 2006, 05:09:07 PM
you want a comparison. To keep in simple. I have been a die hard Dynothaner since day of the PC ERA. I mdae the switch from track when he left.

I have had some difficulty matching up to the soaker cover and the Element in general. The vendetta line has long been a favorite and Billy I, continually are on both sides of the spectrum. The Element was a good ball in its own right. In our region (SW) the element match's better to the down and in player. The Zr40 (in early test) matches better to the tweener and down and in player.

The Zr40 gives a better read and control of the midlane then its father. In my opinion it also gives a better reaction at and through the turn. Both balls keep the pins low.

The keeper of the two will be the ZR40 for me.

In watching many of the guys here throw the ball. I am leaning more to the Zr40 then the element. This is based on the factors above. Of course I will re evaluate my theory when they get 50-100 games and rate the life and reaction of the cover to the original element.
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Title: Re: ZR40 compared to original element
Post by: Pin_Daddy on February 12, 2006, 02:50:21 PM
Ignore what I said I guess....I coulda sworn I saw 1500 tho...
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Title: Re: ZR40 compared to original element
Post by: tekneek on February 13, 2006, 08:11:01 AM
both are 800 polished, the major difference is the tires, more control, better reading of the mids, more predictible at the break from the Zr40. Control is the key word. Maybe Phil should have named it "Control Factor", or "Control Freak". LOL, nomatta a great piece of equipment.
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Edited on 2/13/2006 8:59 AM
Title: Re: ZR40 compared to original element
Post by: Pin_Daddy on February 13, 2006, 01:54:05 PM
I know the AU79 us polished...the original element is 1000 grit smooth.


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Kyle: Chef, we need Butters to gain about 50 pounds, fast.
Chef: Well, if you want him to get really fat as fast as possible, one of you will have to marry him.
Stan: Marry him?
Chef: It definitely worked for every woman I've ever met.
Title: Re: ZR40 compared to original element
Post by: tekneek on February 13, 2006, 02:21:13 PM
my bad, didn't read the topic completely, no matta, the Zr40 is IMO better than both.
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