Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
Color: Green/Yellow
RG: 2.50
Differential: .056
Factory Finish: 15 micron matte
Lane Conditions: Heavy Oil
Post by: Tony Glickley on October 07, 2001, 07:24:21 PM
I have mine drilled with the pin at 5 " from my axis, CG in a mild/strong position , with the surface out of the box.
The thing that I see different from the first red Apex is the core in this ball seems to rotate "free-er", reving up easier that the first, giving it the ability to turn the corner a little easier. If you thought the first Apex hit, you will realy like this one. The color atracts attention *Yellow/Purple* but I like it! We have a lot of happy customers throwing this ball with a varity of different drills, some left with the asymetrical neck of the core intact, giving a strong reaction, some toned down by choosing a layout that drills the neck out, giving a very smooth reaction. I give it a 9 out of 10 Tony
Post by: YoungGun on October 15, 2001, 08:05:05 AM
THERE WILL BE A FOLLOW UP REVIEW because i couldnt get this ball on my side of the head pin, only brooklyn side. the ball starts to grip the lane about 1/4 of the way down, breaks in the midlane (more than my old Apex) and turns the corner about twice as much as my original Apex. i did have 1 ball that i throwed that hit dead on the head pin (strike) and 2 brooklyn shots that carried all 10 pins. in my opinion this ball is breaking machine, i was standing 5 to the left of the left dot on the approach throwing over the 3rd arrow from the right, and by the way the ball reacted yu couldnt have thought the lanes were medium oily like they were.
this ball will be thrown on heavier oiled lanes in 4 days, i will follow up then, FOR NOW:
Carry-??
Backend-awesome
midlane-very nice
heads-gets through them great till it starts to break
Control-very controllable due to it's early gripping of the lane
Versatilily-the only way i found i cuold throw this ball is from left side to right side and letting it come back
Post by: YoungGun on October 16, 2001, 09:41:48 PM
i figured i should tell how my ball is drilled other than the pattern number...the pin is in about 1:30 position, cg on the grip centerline, bomb actually on the negative side straigt over from my thumbhole. SIDE WEIGHT=3/8oz, FINGER WEIGHT=1/2oz, not sure of thumb weight. i polished this ball with ebonite factory finish polish and found that the breaks a little less, 5 boards, than the original Apex. i was surprised, i actually got the ball to hit on the right of the head pin and in the 1-3 pocket. the polish got the ball really far down the lane and still provided some backend, this polish cut over half of the ball's original break out and really sacrificed valuable hitting power,
with polish=7 out of 10
with out polish on dry lanes=6/10
with out on oily lanes=???? in my next review
Post by: fabes on November 06, 2001, 06:36:14 PM
I actually bought this ball from a friend of mine. He had only used it for 10-15 games and he did not like it because he felt he was leaving too many ten pins. To date I have used it for 10 games in league, the low game being 196 (I missed three spares). It is a great ball for the lanes I bowl on. It does hook and it allows me to move 4-5 boards left from my usual starting point and swing it out. It does hit like a truck. The only problem I have had is when we start to have some carry down, I need to adjust my line to get just a touch outside the oil. If I dont't I will leave the occasional ten pin, but nothing out the ordinary. I'm sorry, but I really do not know the specs. I give this ball an 9 on a scale of 1-10.
Post by: Chris Postel on November 06, 2001, 07:28:12 PM
We both wanted the same thing, and told Chris...."HOOK MONSTER!". He chuckled and did so.......ANYWAYS!!!
The ball was drilled with the cg low, the pin above the ring finger (2 inches up), the bomb about an inch down and a little to the right, and the label was tilted about 45 degrees.
WOW!!!!!!! This ball hits like a tank, and HOOKS TOO!!!! It's like a snow tire!!(it tracks on anything!)
I threw the ball from 25 out to 3......AND IT HOOKED TO THE 2-4 (and the sad thing is that I'm a straight up player hehe!)
Great ball from Ebonite!
Post by: Hin Hale on November 13, 2001, 09:02:29 AM
I shot a perfect game the first tournament I used it.
This ball hooks alot.
Post by: ky247 on November 17, 2001, 12:47:21 PM
Bowled in the state tournament after only throwing (3) games the night before the tournament. The first set was team on a set of wood lanes that were drier than the Sahara desert from the first squad. Shot 622 playing over board 25 to 8 and back like a freight train. For me this shot is extreme, but playable. The next day was at a house for singles/doubles with synthetic lanes that had just had the heads oiled 15' and the then buffed to 40'. Shot 638 in singles and came back after the oil had settled in alittle with 708. Awesome power playing over 15 to 8 and back like a train. Not sure of the length the ball goes down, but has to be at least 40-45' before it snapped back.
Monday night on our house shot the ball reacted super and with some adjustment shot 704. Wednesday afternoon bowling in the senior league where there was significant carry down, after minor adjustment shot 701.
I also have the red/black Apex and now with the Intensity have a major arsenal of balls that I have lots of confidence in. Ebonite you have produced and AWESOME ball when you designed and built the INTENSITY.
Post by: friggin9pin on November 28, 2001, 05:31:21 PM
Now its time to review one of the most GODLIKE balls on the market, the APEX INTENSITY by Ebonite. If you thought the original APEX hooked like a biatch, then just wait until you see this one. I got mine (my first 16 pounder)drilled at AMF Bayshore Bowl by Chris Keller, Wow he is good. After drilling up one of these monster balls for my friend/nemesis (Chris Postel), I handed him the ball and said "Chris, I have got two words to describe how I want this ball drilled:
HOOK MONSTER;"
then he went and did his thang. When he was finished I took my original APEX, threw it and then took my INTENSITY and threw that one. Well let's just say I only had to add some speed and move left about 8 boards from where I was throwing the original to get the INTENSITY to hit jersey on freshly oiled lanes. I was really impressed, but that was about a month ago, now the ball has a pretty good resume. One such acheivement with it was my first 700 series that I bowled tonight (11/28/01). I shot 255-256-211 for a 722, not too bad considering my previous high was a 680. Anywho, this ball goes about 3/4 of the way down the lane and then turns. It turns HARD. The pins explode, not many stone 10 pins, or 7 pins for that matter. Unfortunately, I can find one flaw in the ball, because of how sharp the angle that it drives through the pocket with, I seem to be leaving much more stone 9 pins. Not a problem; picking up a 9 pin beats picking up a 10 pin any day. So in conclusion, BUY THIS BALL BECAUSE IT IS BUENO (and because it looks absolutely SICK going down the lane). To all you bowlers out there: PEACE OUT and for the the love of GOD, may the 10-pins go down.
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I HATE TEN PINS!
Post by: Jace Peterson on November 29, 2001, 01:22:01 PM
I drilled this one pin 3-3/8 inches bomb puy at 3/4 inch left of the val. Extra hole 7 inches pitched 1-1/2 inched down. This ball reved fast through the mid lane and was a little stronger and continuous from the break point. This was a pleasant surprise. This drilling made this hook more than my regular Apex. This
turned out to be a great oil ball.
Post by: agroves on December 04, 2001, 11:05:31 PM
Ball specs:
weight:15lbs. 4 oz.
top weight: 4 1/4oz.
Pin out 3"
Had it drilled 4 1/2 pin to pap. I wanted it to give me some length before it snapped. It does get through the heads well and also gets down the lane. What I wasn't expecting was the amount of boards it covered when it snapped.
Started with some carrydown, crossing 12 out to 5 and the Intensity just turned and headed for the pocket destroying everything in sight. I then decided to throw it up the boards. Stood 16, up 8 and I turned up the speed and took away some hand to get this ball to hole. It carried well all night long.
The only drawback to this ball was I had no hold room inside. I tugged it a couple of times and it was very unforgiving.
Overall, a great one from ebonite, if not the best one so far. I called my Matrix TPS III a "hook monster", but now it fails by comparison. Bowl to Win!
later,
andrew
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Post by: Garcia on December 13, 2001, 01:10:25 AM
I tested on a very long oil pattern. I started with a 600 wet-sand Vortex2 and simply couldnt catch enuff roll in the midlane. Out came the Intensity, at first it rolled very similiar to the V2. So I went to the ball spinner and hit the Intensity with a burgandy scotch-brite pad. It worked out great! Surface on the Apex made it catch the midlane where I lacked roll from the V2. The Intensity rolled long and smooth, with no sign of over-reaction or roll-out. In the end, I got exactly what I was looking for, a stronger, earlier version of the Vortex2. Great addition for Ebonite.
Xeno Garcia
Ebonite Regional Staff
Post by: ballard2 on December 18, 2001, 05:36:27 PM
and show a continuous arc to the pocket.
laid it out with the pin 5" from pap and bomb on the pap.
with the patterns we have been using lately a coating of Ebonite particle
polish was applied. this one certainly has been no disappointment as in
the early blocks the ball gives a very predictable midlane with a stronger
arcing finish than the original apex. plenty of hit too!
it would appear that for the strong side of your arsenal,
this ball is a great choice.
matt ballard
ebonite regionl staff
Post by: Jim Lewis on December 19, 2001, 02:07:29 AM
Jim Lewis
Ebonite Regional Staff
Post by: YoungGun on December 20, 2001, 09:16:29 PM
a block pattern was used at the time i bought this ball and both it and I felt like a sure combonation. now, the ball seems as if it starts to check up just as soon as it touches the floor. i can throw my red/blue Apex on my regular line (standing on 2nd dot, throwing over 8 board) and it does fine, pull this one out and im lucky if it hits the 2 pin (right hander), and flattered if it "accidentally" touches the head pin.
i am not a drill pattern wiz but I'll tell you what i can about my pattern:
pin is about 1 1/2 inch out, about 5 o'clock in reference to my ring finger hole
cg looks to be directly on my center of span line (from finger holes to thunbhole) or maybe, actually, a little to the left???
bomb is actually on the LEFT side of my thumbhole at about 8 o'clock (my driller said this would give me want i "wanted", which was a ball that didn't react at all in/on the heads or the midlane, and took a hellacious backend turn.
instead i got a ball, that breaks about 4 boards by the time it leaves the heads, 5-8 boards in the midlane (pines), and still breaks fairly hard on the backends. nevertheless, i have scooted and scooted and am actually clueless of whatelse to do. i have polished it with particle polish also...
in closing, if anyone would instruct me, in Layman's terms, on how to have this ball redrilled and it do what i want, please reply to this post, very, very sorry for the long post
thanks in advance
pre-college bowler
Post by: SKIP on December 27, 2001, 10:17:29 AM
Post by: Michael on December 31, 2001, 03:04:28 AM
good luck and good bowling,
Michael
Post by: BIGDADDY on January 09, 2002, 01:29:10 PM
Had this ball drilled about a week ago, and oh my. This ball turns like nothing I have ever seen. I used to throw my old ball over third arrow from the right while standing on second dot form left. I had to move some fifteen boards left and throw over third form the left. The first three games after finding my line was a 196, 216,170(I was drunk by then) I trough one game to dind my line. A fellow no handicap bowler probably described this ball best. His remark was that damn ball if vicious. I don't know the exact drilling, I do no that the pin is slighty under my ring finger. I was told that because of how much hand I have, That I had drill it onthe weak side, and it still turn a bunch.
Post by: PremierProShop-Rich on January 11, 2002, 10:29:35 PM
Right Hand Tweener, 16MPH ball speed, PAP 4 3/4" Right 1/8" Up, Medium Revs.
Lane condition:
34ft oil pattern buffed to 42ft tophat condition on 10 board. Kegel Defense Lane Conditioner applied with Sanction Lane Machine.
The ball has a 3" pin distance. Drilled 4 1/4" pin to PAP 6" mass bias to PAP
(75 degree layout). Light polish with Tour Shine. This left 1/4 oz negative side weight. 1/2 oz positive finger weight.
I tried the ball before the lanes were dressed for the day and was very suprised at how well I was able to get the ball down the lane about 40ft on this spotty left over condition. I did have to move in to about 5th arrow to keep the ball in the pocket, but even with the ball burning energy down the lane it still carried very well.
During the first shift league, the ball really started showing it's stuff. I typically play this house around 12 board, but I had to move in to 16 board at the arrows to keep the ball from jumping high. The ball floated through the fronts very easily to the end of the pattern and ripped up to the pocket. The more I rolled the ball the better the reaction, on the shots I got around a bit more, the ball jumped off the break point even stronger, a bit too strong at times. By the third game I had moved into about 18 board at the arrows, but when I went wide the shots came in to high and left a few wide open frames.
This ball works best on fresh conditions, just find a dry board and let it rip. It can work on dryer conditions, and still make a hard move, but it will burn up if you slow down. The more oil you find in the heads the harder this ball will snap up.
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- Premier Pro Shop
- 1536 North Kings Hwy
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Post by: nandosze on January 19, 2002, 11:00:18 PM
I just picked up an Apex Intensity. I wasn't 100% sure of which ball to buy but I had my eye on this ball. This WAS the right choice. I bought it specifically for heavy oil. This ball is a monster. The lanes are normally pretty heavily oiled for the first 40 feet and stripped backends. Tonight they were extremely wet. This ball gets through the heads with ease, then watch out. It makes the hardest and sharpest turn to the pocket I've ever had in a ball. I carry a 193 avg and haven't thrown a 300 yet, but this may be it. I bowled 3 games with it today and had 6,5 and then 7 in a row. Shot a 749 series. Highest at this house was 659 til today. If I see something different when the shot changes, Ill repost.
If you want a ball for oil, this is a great choice. You MUST have some speed and revs if you drill it strong.
Great Job Ebonite!
Balls Specs ( not a pro with this, but I will try )
Pin about 1 1/2" right of ring finger
Bomb about 1" right of thumbhole
Extra hole on my pap ( I think )
out of box condition
Post by: Run It Out on January 19, 2002, 11:24:30 PM
I ordered the Intensity specifying 2-3 pin and 3-4 oz. top weight. It arrived at 15 lbs., 6 oz., 2 1/2" pin and 3 1/4 oz. top weight. It came with warranty info and a booklet containing drilling specs and technical specs on the ball. I laid out the ball following the Ebonite Drilling #1 specs.
After drilling, the pin is about 1 1/2" right and in about the 4:00 position from my ring finger. The bomb is at 0 degrees (on the thumb), and there is a 1/2 oz. hole drilled on the PAP. I left the surface in box stock condition. See my profile for lane condition info and bowler specs.
This is a strong layout, but it is very smooth and predictable. It glides through the heads in a very slight, gradual arc, then reacts strong and smooth on the back end. When I pulled the ball and got less lift on it, it still hooked, so there is little margin for error to the left. But, if I get the ball outside, it seems to have a wide strike zone. It carries everything! Ok, maybe not EVERYthing, but it does carry many times when I don't expect it to. And it comes back when I think I've put it out too far. Amazing how much this ball moves left. When the backeds are stripped and clean, LOOK OUT!
The intensity is also more versatile than I thought. I tried various lines, speeds, more hand, less hand, etc. It was predictable through it all. I even shot 10 pin spares with it, no problem. If you don't get any lift on it, it won't hook. Get a little hand on it and it will hook nicely. Rip it and run for cover! I played it on medium/dry lanes and it was tough to keep right.
After 35 games with it, the only time I've really struggled with it is after a lot of traffic. The condition was barely medium, close to dry with a lot of carry-down oil. It didn't carry 10 pins well on this condition, at least not when playing the 10th to 15th board. Out of 30 pocket hits, it only carried 10 times, the rest of the time it left 18 10 pins and 2 7 pins. BUT, there were 12 other guys having just as much trouble with all kinds of other balls. I moved inside and played over the center and it carried fine.
This ball is just awesome. It packs a HUGE punch, so it's great for those of us who don't generate a lot of power on our own. Several guys have bought it where I bowl, from high rev'ers to "Down and in" bowlers. It could be setup for use by anyone on a medium-heavy to heavy oil condition. A power-bowling friend of mine has one setup for heavy oil and one setup for medium. Strokers and "weak hands" can even use it on a medium/dry condition if they are able to adjust for it.
The bottome line; If you want a butt-kickin' oil ball, I would highly recommend the Ebonite Apex Intensity. I LOVE it!
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Run It Out! It increases pocket-hit and carry percentage!
Post by: rtbowlr300 on January 31, 2002, 11:51:46 AM
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Post by: C-G ProShop-Carl on February 15, 2002, 09:51:01 AM
One thing I really hate is when someone gets a ball goes out one time with it and posts a review. This ball is the perfect example of why. I hated it for the first 9 games. No consistency, one time it would hang, the next it would fly. But once it tracked up just a bit I LOVE IT.
I have it drilled to get down the lane, so when there is dry back ends it revs up really fast and hits like nothing I have ever thrown. I have had balls that hit harder, but when the Intensity hits the pins they flip and fly like I have never seen pins do.
I left it in box condition which is 15 micron sanded. I will say that when the backends get spotty it is very unpredictable. But all I have to do is square up to the lane a bit and the problems is solved. I did not get the ball to fill my big hooker need. It does everything I wanted it to do. I give this ball a 9 of 10 because nothing will get a 10
I cannot wait to get my Adrenaline tomorrow. Ebonite won me over.
Post by: Babz299 on February 24, 2002, 12:33:47 AM
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FreDDie
JUST GET ITOUT
Post by: James Campbell on February 25, 2002, 07:22:44 PM
James Campbell
Ebonite Regional Staff
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Post by: jmf300 on March 20, 2002, 03:31:59 PM
I drilled this ball 2/18/02 and I've only had 1 set under 650. Had my highest 9 game set during city tournament 2116 and then on 3/13/02 shot my 2nd 300 of the season a personel best so far in 1 season
It's drilled with the pin below the ring finger bomb below the thumb 1/2 finger and 1/8 positive side no weight hole was needed. Like everybody says you need to keep the ball clean as for particle death I think if you clean your equipment and maintain it it should last a long time kind of like a car you have to take care of it to give you good performance.(go figure) Ebonite won me over with this ball I'm looking to replace all my present equipment with them as it's not the same Ebonite your Daddy used 20 years ago. If your looking at the Ebonite line it's really not driller friendly like other brands. So think about what you want and how you want it to react and you should be able to find a layout for it to work. Take your time in selection and you won't be disappointed. This ball's a winner and it will surprise you in it's length and recovery. with the right surface and layout it will amaze you it has me
I'm not one to talk about pins flying and bird dogs, messengers, etc. But until you bring a deadwood out on a full rack it's never the same. Jimmy
Post by: BlueHammaPowa300 on March 28, 2002, 03:49:57 PM
Well, let me start by saying that I bought this ball for heavy oil
to basically sit in my bag for the tournaments. I got it drilled
to hook early and to get through massive carry down if that was a issue.
I have been able to test this ball on many different patterns to see how
well it works and the obvious result would be for heavy oil. I see many
people polishing this ball and hating it so if you are thinking about
doing that I would not recommend it unless you have more hand the Jason
Couch. One of the big flaws I have seen though is that it likes to leave
tens, and I am not talking about flat tens, they are ripped pretty hard core.
Overall though a good heavy oil ball, easy to control. Take care of it and
clean is everytime you use it for a league shot and this ball should increase
your average. There are better balls on the market however for heavy oil
then this thing. Overall 7 out of 10.
Post by: cbr900rr on March 28, 2002, 09:58:51 PM
Post by: ky247 on April 03, 2002, 09:11:43 PM
Have been using the Intensity and regular Apex now for about (4) months. Have had several big scores with both, but today I'm very happy to say I had my first 300 in over 45 years of bowling. Shot 245-300-223=768 after shooting 760 Monday night and 689 Friday. Think I finally found the secret, at least for this week, that the Apex products hit so hard that stone 8 and 9 pins occured 2-4 times in a three game set. For the past week I started using less wrist and a nice firm lift and cut down the hook which in turn gives more control and less snap on the back end.
Going after the 800 next and can't wait 45 years for that one or I'll be 102 years old.
Post by: Todd Schroeder on May 12, 2002, 02:27:05 PM
Post by: st0rml0ver88 on June 11, 2002, 06:13:29 PM
this ball hits great but i didnt do grea with it, mainly because i went from a 6 step approach to a 4 step which mesed me up and they flooded the lanes.at first it was hooking and i would carry wehter i hit light hi or whatever and it recovered good.then they oiled it and i was done for.It would only strike if i hit it flsuh and if i hit light would leave 7-10 splits and one time i got a split when i hit high.im very pleased with this ball just not good on flooded and pretty good on heavier oil but im sure its the best on medium.i have medium speed and im working no getting more revs but i have medium now.this was a very good ball for the price and would recomend it but its not goodon flooded or very heavy oil.
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Post by: sdjrlefty on October 16, 2002, 09:51:00 PM
My rating on a scale of 1-10, 9.
Just as Ebonite says, "Bowl to win."
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KUJayhawks will DOMINATE 2002-2008- NO MATTER WHAT!
Post by: crankers202 on November 22, 2002, 04:04:01 PM
HAD. WHEN I FIRST GOT THIS BALL I COULD NOT BELIVE HOW MUCH IT COULD HOOK.
Post by: Canttearemuptipemup on January 19, 2003, 03:33:39 PM
The last three weeks I've used this ball as my first choice out of the bag. I was using an Eraser, see my reviews regarding the Eraser if interested. I stand at 25 and roll the ball over 15 or the third arrow from the right. I'm right handed. The last two weeks I bowled a 694 and a 681. Lane conditions have been pretty consistant. Not a lot of breakdown as the night went on. I don't have to help this ball to finish. If I do try to help give it a little extra on my release it comes up heavy on the head pin. Three weeks ago I had my high game this year with the Intensity, but came right back the next game and bowled one of my lowest games. I can't blame the ball for that. I still had a 625 series.
I'm certainly happy with this ball thus far. I'll post an update as the season winds down.
Update on Jan. 1, 2004.. The Intensity is the first ball out of my bag for oily lanes. Last Saturday night in a mixed league I sub in, I bowled a 299 with the Intensity. The right lane was a severe headache all night until the last game. I suppose I had tipped up enough by the third game I was more relaxed. Hence the user ID, Can't tear em up, tip em up. Bowled a 173 first game with all strikes on the left lane. Three opens on the right lane. Second game was a 213. Went just a bit high on the headpin in the tenth and left a four pin. That was the only ball that I didn't strike on the left lane all night. Too bad it was the tenth frame. Last game every shot was dead in the pocket. The 12th ball looked to be perfect, but the ten pin stood there laughing at me. Didn't even wriggle. Well, the 299 beat the 298 I bowled in 1987. As for my opinion of the Intenisty, I love it!! Best heavy oil ball I have bowled with. Very consistant roll and hook. If I find another for the right price I'm buying it without hesitation. Again, I love this ball!!!
Post by: 6martinjames on February 01, 2003, 08:07:15 PM
Post by: bcdytoc on December 08, 2003, 11:03:13 AM
I like the way the ball hits the pocket hard. It is also a ball that will make me get away with some good pin count even if I don't hit the pocket exact in the "sweet spot". All I need to do when I release is just to swing naturally and flip the ball upon release from the fingertips.
I give the ball 8.5 out of 10. Very good for heavy oil. Use it on medium to light oil only if you dare.
Post by: UpTenBowler on January 27, 2004, 06:31:21 PM
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The Rhino Pro Teal is the best ball ever!!!
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