Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
Overall Hook Rating: 28.75 (scale of 1-30, least to most)
Breakpoint Angle: 9.65 (scale of 1-10, smooth to sharp)
Color: Black/Silver
Style: 029744-871
Reactions: Clean through the front with strong continuous backend reaction.
Target Line: Track Area and Inside Angles
Lane Conditions: Medium to Heavy Oil
Coverstock: BOMBER Low Load Particle Sanded w/100 Grit Abralon
Core: Apex Adrenaline
Weights: 16 15 14
RG: 2.51 2.51 2.51
Differential: 0.05 0.054 0.054
Post by: BrandonR on March 11, 2005, 11:54:10 AM
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RELAX ITS ONLY BOWLING
Post by: zubazcat on March 20, 2005, 12:13:46 AM
Post by: bluebladebowling on April 01, 2005, 03:01:18 PM
Top weight: 3 ozs
Surface: Box then polished
Drill pattern: Leverage Stacked
Lanes: Wood
Patterns: Burnt THS with soft backends-THS with soft outsides good backends
Well.....
If you like Ebonite equipment I believe you will like this ball. I absolutely did not like this ball out of box, and that hasn't happened much. But the polish changed it. It reminded me of the Savage Flip with a boost. It responded to hand positions but not as much as I had hoped. SPEED SENSITIVE. To fast long, blew past break point, to slow short and it got jumpy. Pocket wasn't hard to find and wasn't hard to stay in, the ball seemed touchy. Without getting into scores I will say I shot over my 216 avg. with ease. But with allot of Ebonite equip. I seen allot of 7 pins.
I LIKE THIS BALL....
It will find its way into my arsenal just not where I was hoping it would...
I'm not real sure who I would recommend this ball to but allot of my customers are looking at it, and I believe with good reason. Just allow the ball to dictate the line it likes out of your HAND....
I will be throwing it on synthetics over the weekend I am figuring that it will be allot stronger there.. I may report back to let you know.
UPDATE: Shot on synthetics today, and just as I had thought the reaction was impressive. Still left alot of corners, but overall the pocket was still easy to find.. I feel like it could be a little stronger, for it seems a little long in heavy oil. I am happy to find this ball in my bag, and I know I won't be the only one......
Bluebladebowling
Post by: kalvis917 on April 08, 2005, 07:36:36 AM
Post by: kalvis917 on April 14, 2005, 07:28:09 AM
Post by: Hussman on April 18, 2005, 04:45:39 AM
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"I throw ball, pins fall down!"
"Work harder, people on welfare depend on you!"
Post by: jimwoosh on May 01, 2005, 02:48:47 AM
drilled it 4 1/2 pin from pap by 4 1/2 cg by pap. FIRST night in league 243 -248-300 791 out of the box.....league shot 41 feet oil line 6th board. swung ball 15 board to board. i now have 12 games on the ball low series 700.248 average for 12 games ..This is the hardest hitting ball I have owned.DEMOLISHES the rack especially light hits. Never seen a ball send messengers like this..... loved this ball so much just ordered a second which I'M Gonna drill rev leverage.........2 very big thumbs up!!!!
Post by: jeffbassingfool on May 03, 2005, 04:40:38 AM
Post by: FrogArm on May 05, 2005, 11:02:15 AM
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Ebonite Rules
Post by: FrogArm on May 05, 2005, 11:08:10 AM
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Ebonite Rules
Post by: bmwsonj on May 07, 2005, 01:24:34 PM
Post by: haraku on May 10, 2005, 10:30:25 PM
i would recomend this ball to anyone who love to hook. this ball OWNS!
Post by: ItsJustMe300 on May 20, 2005, 09:41:29 AM
Post by: Dangerzone85 on June 05, 2005, 04:17:40 AM
Pin below fingers{Pin 5 1/2 from Pap}
small weight hole
surface: Box
House Shot{Dry outsides little oil in middle} I was able to stand 30 and pitch it out to 5 with a smooth but continous back end.
Tournment(Oil outsides with oil in middle) Scored better playing between 5 and 10 board.
Overall ( out9 of 10}Ball is clean thru the front and smooth but continues backend
Good luck
Post by: georgiabowler on June 21, 2005, 11:22:19 AM
Post by: TrimMan on June 27, 2005, 09:36:30 AM
3oz TW
3-4 pin
Pin 5" from pap cg kicked right about 1/2" this put the pin above the ring finger for me. No weight hole required.
Before I even threw this ball I took the finish to 4000 grit abralon. I wanted this ball to get down the lane and make a hard turn.
38' THS wood lanes with quardian heads. 232-265-211 It took just a few threws before I got lined up. Definately a hook set motion coming straight up the back. When I changed hand postion and came around the side more the ball had more continuation. Was able to play different lines with no problems. This ball was great on this shot, with excellent carry. Last game the beer started to come into play.
41' THS synthetics (AMF) 265-212-210-207-156-206 With fresh backends this ball responded well . I struggled a little with carrydown, was able to adjust but not as fast I wanted. When the lanes started to break down I was able to move inside. Overall really didn't buy this ball for this house you need something to roll up a little earlier. My Xxcel is which I perfer in this house.
Overall, my intentions with this ball was to have something under my Xxcel. My wish came true. For this price great ball. Way to go Ebonite keep them coming.
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Post by: Hussman on July 02, 2005, 02:44:56 PM
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"I throw ball, pins fall down!"
F.O.S. Member
"Viva la Resistance!"
Post by: wrwfan1029 on July 24, 2005, 03:10:23 PM
Post by: 9cline on August 08, 2005, 02:33:28 PM
Mine has the
pin below ring finger and x hole on pap
goes smooth down the lane and nice strong arc off the dry.
Rolled the ball on a long sport pattern it never turned over, I slowed it down to give it chance to react. Still didn't,but played straight to pocket and it did carry on through the hole. I don't think mine is the ball for this condition. Have used on broken down league shot,and moved inside it worked terrific. Seems to work better when it can cover boards.
Good ball I love mine too.
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Nina Cline
May the Pins always fall your way !!!
Post by: bruceklebejr on August 16, 2005, 12:42:59 AM
someone who has higher speed with little rotation..so slow your tempo down a
little to allow this monster to work because when i slow it down it gives me the whole lane...
Post by: jchosea on August 25, 2005, 01:15:00 AM
Post by: Monster Stitch on December 22, 2005, 11:41:40 AM
15.30lbs
3 Inch Pin
3oz Top
Layout:
Right Handed
5 x 3
Pin Under Bridge
CG kicked out 2 inches
X-Hole 6 inches in a 45 degree angle from center of span through cg and down
Report:
I bowled with this ball on a couple of different lane surfaces. This ball skid through the front, revs in the midlane, and has a continuous arc in the backend. On a THS, this ball can strike at pretty much any angle. You can swing it out from the wet to dry and the ball rolls back to the pocket. I can go stright up the oil line and it will hit the packet too. The Big Time keeps the pins low and hits like a truck. I was very impress. When the lanes start to break down in the front and mids, it's time to put this ball away. It burns up early like other balls and checks up. Overall with the adrenaline core this ball really spins up. I always liked how the APEX ball rolled. With the low load particle and the rest reactive this ball can really give a one two punch. Also the Big Time is responsive to different hand positions.
Look at when Tommy Jones threw the ball on the PBA Tour last year. He was dominant.
Another great ball by Ebonite.
Post by: mr845 on January 22, 2006, 10:27:30 AM
2 1/2 inch pin
2 1/2 top
drilled pin below and just outside of ring finger cg straight below with a weight hole.
I finally found enough head oil for this ball at our local singles tourny.
All I can say is it's about time I got a partical ball that is capable of getting good length and has enough left on the backend to turn the corner.I have alwas had trouble with particle balls running out of gs on the back not this one.I was able to play inside the oil line all day and never had any problems carrying in a house that is famous for bad carry.
If you are looking for an easy to control particle ball that wont run out of energy on the back this is it.The only ting is you will have to put it away when the heads start to fry.
In my opinion this is the best particle I have ever thrown as far as readability and storing energy for the backend.I would definately recomend this ball to anyone who is looking for a ball for heavier oil.
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This game is sooooo easy.SEE SPOT HIT SPOT why is it I still cant get it right after all this time?
Post by: Fairchase on January 26, 2006, 04:47:53 PM
Post by: Jeff Ussery on June 14, 2006, 10:48:22 AM
Preferred Spin Axis to PAP Distance: 3 1/2"
Balance Hole: 29/32" x 1 1/2" Deep – 1" Past PAP
Surface Preparation: Box Condition
What I Was Looking For in this Ball and Layout:
Here's a great example of what NOT to do with a brand new bowling ball. I drilled this ball with no real objective in mind. The aggressiveness of the coverstock and the high differential of the ball scared me into a weaker pin to PAP distance than I would normally use. I drilled this ball with only one thing on my mind; keep it from over-flaring too early.
What I Ended Up With in this Ball and Layout:
The result of drilling a ball without a desired ball reaction is that you really don't know what you will end up with. Unfortunately for me, not thinking about the ball layout before throwing some holes in it created an overlapping reaction in my bag. This Big Time ball clears the head area of the lane better than anything in my bag right now. The smooth coverstock and weak pin position combine for an unbelievably low amount of friction in the front part of the lane, and I've yet to find a lane that I can't get this ball through the front on. I drilled a balance hole beyond my PAP to try and open up the flare rings a little, but the effect of this was very minimal.
Here comes mistake number two with my brilliance. I placed the preferred spin axis of this ball 3 1/2" from my PAP. When combined with all of the front end skid I created through pin position and ball selection, this PSA location creates a very medium type of backend reaction. The ball sneaks through the front part of the lane and then needs an incredible amount of friction in the backend to get started. If the ball does get into a transition, it does make a very strong move towards the pocket. With the skid created by step 1, I can really create some steep entry angles with this PSA location.
The overall hook of my Big Time is significantly less than the One and Big One balls that were also reviewed on June 3rd. While the surface makes it slightly stronger than my Overtime, the ball does not have any real purpose for me. The real issue with this ball lies in the lane conditions we bowl on. I said that the ball clears the front of the lane extremely clean. This means that I really can't throw it on slicker heads because it just skates out in the backend. So I'm really looking for a condition that is slightly broken down in the front of the lane for this Big Time. I also need an incredible amount of friction in the backend to get the ball started. In tournament play, far more often than not, when we see broken down fronts, we see a lot of oil down lane. So again, it's near impossible for me to match up this ball properly.
In summary, don't drill bowling balls without a purpose in mind. I hope you can learn from my lesson and keep situations like this from happening to you.
Length from 1-10 (Early to Late)
7.5
Breakpoint Move from 1-10 (Smooth to Sharp)
6.0
Overall Hook from 1-10 (Low to High)
6.5
A picture of this ball and the layout can be seen on our website if you are interested.
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Jeff Ussery
Powerhouse Training Clinics
www.proshoptraining.com
Post by: kusan_31 on October 22, 2006, 10:37:47 PM
Pin above ring finger (4" to PAP)
CG kicked out about an inch from 12:00, x-hole slightly below PAP
Surface Dulled with Burgundy Scotch Pad.
I originally got this ball drilled to read the midlane push through carrydown.
This layout produced a controllable change of direction, yet high revving at the end of the lane. I found this ball to work better on my current house shots than anything ive ever owned. The one thing i can't get out of my mind is how this ball carries the corners 95+ % of my pocket hits.
The only problem i had with this ball is when the track area is completely broken down. It rolls a tad too early when i try to bounce it off the dry. Its playable on a medium-light shot, but takes a little too much effort to swing it out enough.
My friend (a pure Lane 1 user) commented the reaction I got from this ball. I think that shows how greatly under-rated it is. Im planning to get one more Big Time and drill it without such a big x-hole.
Through all the companies that ive tried, Ebonite balls seem to compliment my game the best. Next up is a Raw Hammer Doom which im currently waiting for.
Post by: 7 SPLIT 10 on January 01, 2007, 05:21:32 PM
Post by: kidder1212 on February 20, 2007, 08:01:39 PM