win a ball from

Author Topic: Innovate  (Read 14358 times)


  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 543
« on: May 24, 2012, 10:37:15 AM »
Ball NPS Score: 100.00

- Coverstock: HTR 3.0 Pearl
- Factory Finish: 800  Abranet, 1000 Abralon, 2000 Abralon   Polished with  Powerhouse Factory Finish
- Color: Red/Navy/Purple All colors do vary somewhat from the picture shown.
- Core: Verve
- RG Rating (Actual): 16# - 2.49 15# -2.49 14# - 2.49
- Differential (Actual): 16# - .041 15# - .046 14# - .050
- Mass Bias Rating: .010
- Flare Potential: Medium High
- Length: Scale of 1-50 (Least to Most): 26
- Hook Potential: Scale of 1-50 (Least to Most): 48.50
- Break Point Angle: 15.25
- Hook Style: Clean with Strong Back-End Motion
- Best Lane Condition: Medium Oil Patterns
- Description: The Ebonite Innovate provides a motion that Ebonite Fans have been looking for! Truly a ball that likes to be extremely responsive to down lane friction!



  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 6
Re: Innovate
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2012, 11:04:23 PM »

Length: House, 41 ft heavy volume, 39 ft medium medium volume

THS/ Sport Condition

Likes: Wow Ebonite has really hit the map with this new ball the Innovate. This ball is really clean through the front and has a strong continuos motion on the backend. On house shots this ball is very versatile out of of the box. I was able to play straight up the lane with firm speed and then move in soft hooking the lane where the backend motion was incredible. On both the 41 ft and 39 ft patterns I was able to test this ball on I had too take 2000 abralon to it to get it to read the lane sooner. It was able to read the midlane and still continued on the backend. This ball fits any bowler in my opinion. I was able to drill this ball stronger off my PAP which is 4 5/8 over and 7/8 up.I drilled it 4 3/8 off my pap and it was a great ball for when the lanes have more shape to them. This ball is best used in the medium lanes condition and on some dry lanes conditions. Also it can be used on oil when there has been quite a bit of break down.

Jim Lewis

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 54
Re: Innovate
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2012, 11:31:52 AM »

Pin Length:3 inches out

Starting Top Weight:2.75 ounces

Ball Weight:15 pounds 4 ounces


Pin to PAP:4 3/4 inches

CG to PAP:

X Hole (if there is one):no balance hole


Rev Rate:320 rpm

Ball Speed:17 mph

PAP/Track:4 5/8 by 1 up


Grit:Box finish

Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded):


Length:38 ft THS, and 44ft flat

Volume:moderate volume, graph was not available

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):See Length


Length:Innovate definitely cleared the front well on all but a burnt head condition.

Back End:Motion was strong and almost continuous on the backend, I would say it is more like a strong banana shape than a hockey stick on the 38 foot THS and 44 foot sport pattern.

Overall Hook:Moderate to large amount of hook.

Midlane Read:Innovate did not over skid in the midlane, the High Traction Reactive Pearl coverstock reads a bit like a hybrid in the midlane but does not read too early.

Breakpoint Shape:Strong banana shape


Likes:The Innovate will be a versatile asymmetric piece. This is the best HP Ebonite ball since the One series.

Dislikes:none yet

Jim Lewis
Sports Plus/Carmen Don Pro Shop
Ebonite Amateur Staff


  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 1
Re: Innovate
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2012, 03:33:13 PM »
The New Innovate from Ebonite is very clean though the first part of the lane, and provides me with a very strong move in the backend. I have my Innovate drilled 55x5 1/2x45 using the dual angle method, which has the pin right above my middle finger with the mass bias just to the right of my thumb. My rev rate is 425 and my speed is 17.5 mph. I have used my Innovate in a couple tounaments and it has excelled when called upon. It looks great on tougher patterns when there isn't the free push in the front part of the lane, and it has looked great when the lane starts to push me left and I need a ball to make that big move in the back part of the lane. I have left my Innovate in its out of the box condition.
Steve Jacobs
 Town n Country Lanes Pro Shop
 Ebonite Amateur Staff


  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 1
Re: Innovate
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2012, 01:11:04 PM »
Really like the Innovate as it fills a spot in the Ebonite line as a clean and angular ball.  On typical house stuff it's a little too clean on fresh, but as the lanes break down it gives free push and enough engle to corner from anywhere.  Maybe not the most angular back end, but enough juice to corner and carry for most styles. 


  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 719
Re: Innovate
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2012, 08:18:08 AM »
I got the Innovate a few weeks ago, and now, after about 20 games in different houses, I'll say what I think about it.  So far, it's been an amazing ball for me, it doesn't quite have the flip and hard change of direction I think I was expecting, but, that isn't the worst thing in the world.  It's length is very impressive, my Tuesday night handicap league starts at 8 pm, and they don't oil before, so there is plenty of friction there, and the Innovate has been very impressive in how far it can clear the pattern before wanting to check up.  I see others struggling with their reaction being too soon, but the Innovate seems to push that extra foot or two and generally creates a good carrying entry angle.  It can also handle medium volumes of oil well also, allowing me to move over and play straighter and still kick out corners pretty well.  Right now the Innovate is fitting into my medium dry spot in my arsenal, below my Mission, and Anarchy.  I unfortunately have yet to use the Innovate on a sport or PBA shot, but I will be taking it with me to a regional next month.  Great job on this one Ebonite, enjoying using it quite a bit right now.


  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 12
Re: Innovate
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2012, 11:30:22 AM »
The Ebonite Innovate gives a look that the brand has needed to give us. This ball is flat out awesome. It provides a very clean look through the heads, good transition and then nonstop continuous back-end motion. I have drilled two of these so far (and plan to drill more).

PAP: 4 5/8 right x 1/8 up
Ball 1: High pin, 5 1/4 x 65
Right now, this is my first ball out of the bag. It allows me to trust that it is not missing the breakpoint or stopping at any point in the back-end. The motion is more skid-flip but i have not seen the angle ever getting too extreme to where I have a 2-10 / 4 pin reaction. I have also noticed that this ball keeps the pins low going through the deck regardless of the center. Added bonus. It is just a great ball!!

Ball 2: Low pin, 5 x 70
I use this ball if I see that I need the ball to start up a little earlier than the first one I drilled. It is a little smoother off the spot, but still continuous back-end motion.

On the USBC Open pattern, this ball gave me the ability to get in and trust it without OVER hooking on the back. Really do not have one negative thing about these pieces!

If anyone wants pictures of the layouts, please just let me know.

"I am Ebonite...and I bowl to Win!!!"
Bryan Komornik

Chicago, IL
Ebonite Staff Member
« Last Edit: July 28, 2012, 11:42:07 AM by NYHoosier »

Matt Fortney

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2423
Re: Innovate
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2013, 12:40:56 PM »

Pin Length: 3 1/2"

Starting Top Weight: 2 oz

Ball Weight: 15


Pin to PAP: 4 1/2"

MB to PAP: 4 1/2"


Rev Rate: Medium-High

PAP/Track: 4 7/8" Right, 1" Up


Grit: Box


Length: 41 ft

Volume: Medium-Heavy

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS


Length: 9/10 - Great easy length.

Back End: 8/10 - Good reaction to the friction. Ball stands up nicely and makes a predictable, angular move to the pocket.

Overall Hook: 7/10 - Adequate hook. Not by any means the biggest hooking ball in the bag, but a great medium piece.

Midlane Read: 5/10 - A little lower of a number, but honestly, this isn't really what the ball is intended for.

Breakpoint Shape: 9/10 - One of the more angular balls I've thrown.


Likes: Ordered my Innovate from and as usual, it was shipped very quickly, with exactly the specs I was looking for.  I received it yesterday and drilled  it up last night. Let me start by saying that my intent was to use it once the lanes started breaking down. Threw a couple balls during practice and to my surprise I had a pretty good read on the fresh shot, so I stayed with it. Although I have balls that hook more, I was very pleased with the Innovate's easy length and strong move to the pocket. I was able to play a little straighter than normal, and the Innovate gave me great length and a strong, continuous move.

For me, probably the thing that I liked the most about the Innovate was the hit and forgiveness. I had quite a big area that I could hit and still strike. The polished cover gave me room inside, as it would hold quite well, and when I got it outside the pearl really drove in hard.

I was able to throw the ball starting the night, and stick with it  throughout the transition period, without sacrificing carry. The Innovate turned the corner hard enough throughout the night to create the entry angle needed to carry, no matter how deep the shot forced me to play.

I'm pleasantly surprised by the Innovate. It's exactly as it's advertised to be. A medium strength peal with easy length and a nice strong, angular move to the pocket.

Dislikes: I really had to think hard to come up with a dislike, it's kind of nit-picking, but I did come up with one. Although the overall hook is adequate, it wouldn't bother me to start playing a little bit deeper than the Innovate allowed me to do. That being said, if I was starting deeper with it I would end up WAY deep toward the end of the night after the breakdown. Overall a great ball.

« Last Edit: January 08, 2013, 09:28:54 PM by Matt Fortney »


  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 38
Re: Innovate
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2013, 01:29:41 PM »
Pin Length:  3 to 4
Starting Top Weight:  3.0
Ball Weight: 16
Pin to PAP:  6 inch (pin above middle finger)
CG to PAP:  75 degree MB
X Hole (if there is one):  None
BOWLER STYLE:  RH - Stroker slightly speed dominant
Rev Rate:  280
Ball Speed: 17-18
PAP/Track:  PAP:  4 11/16 and 7/8" up
Box Finish:  2000 Abralon
Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded):  Factory Polished
House Shot 41
WTBA 43 Sport

The INNOVATE provides a different look in the Ebonite line.  This ball is very clean through the front of the lane saving its energy for a big move on the back end.  The 6 inch drill creates a sweeping arc type of motion when played from outside angles and a short but strong arc when played from inside.  With this drill pattern, the ball can be a bit over under on the fresh with the factory polish, but when the heads begin to dry up, it is the perfect go to ball.  The 43 WTBA pattern was very flat and somewhat light on the volume and provided a great opportunity for the Innovate.  The quick response at the end of the pattern and the strong hitting power were impressive.  Finally, if you like to rev it up and go coast to coast, the Innovate will not disappoint.
RJ Alman
Ebonite Regional/Amateur Staff


  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 24
Re: Innovate
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2013, 10:20:15 AM »
The Innovate is very clean through the front part of the lane and stores its energy for the back end reaction. It provides great length with a strong continuous move to the pocket.

Being right handed, my Innovate is drilled with the pin on the right side of my ring finger and the CG is about three inches directly below the pin . The ball has good length and has a strong continuous roll to the pocket. Using this ball on a house condition, gives me the versatility to play a deeper line and still have corner carry after the track area has burned. This ball should be in every bowlers arsenal especially when the lanes have burned.


  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 117
Re: Innovate
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2013, 01:50:48 PM »
I bought this ball towards the end of the season, it was a replacement for my Violent Eruption.  This is one of my favorite balls.  It gives me nice length, with a strong midlane and finish to the pocket.  I really like this ball, pin drilled above ring finger.  This ball can be used on medium conditions, when all of the higher end balls are too much.  It has the look and dependability that I need.  It's not to much, but has enough to finish.  It's truly a good benchmark ball, so you can adjust from there.