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Reviews => Ebonite => Topic started by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
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Coverstock: Big Bang Particle Resin
Box Finish: 1000 grit
Color: Jungle Green Sparkle
Core: High-flare core, same as Savage
Flare Potential: High
Length: 12.30 (Ebonite's scale of 1 to 30, early to late)
Overall Hook: 27.50 (Ebonite's scale of 1 to 30, least to most)
Breakpoint Angle: 9.10 (Ebonite's scale of 1 to 10, most smooth to most angular)
Best Lane Condition: Medium to medium-heavy oil
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What an amazing ball. Probably one of the best balls i've thrown next to the Warrior. I love this ball. Ball is 15lbs, drilled with the pin to the right of the ring finger and the cg right below it. FOrget what kind of drilling this is called. For me, i bowl at Sunset Lanes where the house is a heavy shot with carrydown mostly. In practice, was standing on 15 and 20 throwing this ball to ten and swinging it to 5 and it came back with a vengence. Left a lot of 7 and 10 pins. Some soft and some hard pocket hits. Left the ball factory finished. But next time I go to practice and throw this ball if i still leave 7 and 10 pins, will take it back in the pro shop and probably put some polish on it. Either polish it or sand it. Will take it to and see what my ball driller will say to do with it. Right now, I feel like this ball replaces my v2 solid in my bag. SO going to either sell my v2 or give it to the pro shop. If your thinking of a big reactive ball for heavy oil with carry down, this ball is for you.
Peter
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Drilled - Pin above ring finger, Cg below, small X-hole.
No surface adjustments.
Want hook for NOT alot of cash?! Here it is. The Jungle Pred gets thru the fronts and has no problem with carrydown. Fits between the Adrenaline and Solid Savage. Probably the most energy saving particle ball I've ever thrown. Opens up the backends, incredible hit. Easily polishes for needing more length.
Great for players that need more hook then their Savage, or those that need more length then their Adrenaline. This will be a big seller, a price tag in Cat Series category, you cant beat it!
Xeno Garcia
Ebonite Regional Staff
Sythlord79@aol.com
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I drilled it with the Pin to the right of the ring finger and the CG below it slightly kicked to the right of the pin with a small weight hole. All I can say is wow does this ball snap hard. The nice part about it is that it has a controllable roll through the heads and a strong mid-lane snap with a strong finish in the backend. It hits hard but the only thing so far is that I left a lot of ten pins with it. They where solid taps though...nothing soft. It is a great ball at a great price. I would definitely suggest this over an Apex.
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The Ebonite Predator Jungle Green will be one of my best sellers. I used one of my favorite drill patterns... 5x5 pin out 3" with the pin just above the fingers. I left the ball at box condition.
The ball was too much for me for the two typical league patterns I bowl on when I revved it up. But with a weaker wrist and hand position I was able to play just inside the oil line around 13 and blast the pocket.
At the ABC in Knoxville, this ball was it for the Sport Pattern tournament that coincides with the ABC Nationals. The oil pattern was very heavy so I decided to play straight up the 8 board right at the pocket with a weak release. My plan worked to keep the ball in play and not get into trouble. I figured I needed to shoot about 240 the second game to win the daily tournament so I moved into 20 and turned it up to try to create some area and increase my carry.
Wow! The Predator Jungle Green loves oil and I was able to create area on the demanding sport condition. I didn't quite shoot 240 because of a bad shot in the tenth, but ended up 7th and made some good money in the brackets.
Overall: This ball loves the oil but is also very clean through the front end with great recovery on the end without the flippiness of some balls.
The Predator Jungle Green is not only at a great price point but will work well for the strokers to the guys that rip the cover off of it.
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Doug Davidson
Ebonite PBA Regional Staff
Davidson's Pro Shop
1137 Sweitzer St.
Greenville, Ohio 45331
937-417-3940
doug.davidson@pba.com
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I drilled this ball with the pin on my center of grip line with 1/2 OZ. Neg. side weight on label. The pin is under the bridge of fingers 5 inches from my axis. I put a shine on the ball. I used it in league my first game on a low oil pattern. With the ball polished I had no trouble in the middle of the lane getting the ball to the pocket and had good back end. It seemed to role ok but I think it would be better on medium to heavy oil.
James Campbell
Ebonite South Region Staff Member
CcampCSC@aol.com
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Didn't really know what to expect from this new addition. Drilled mine with the pin beside my ring finger, cg was 2" under that and a small hole 6" from midline back to zero. With box surface it was way too much for where I bowl (imagine burnt heads AND midlane). I used Ebonites particle polish which works fantastic. It now seems to glide through the rough stuff and retains a nice arc for the backend. Very controllable. Hitting power was around an 8 from 1 to 10. Overall, an excellent choice for the price tag. By the way, I like Ebonites choice of a darker solid color pattern for the cover...it's easier to read than the flashy swirl models.
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I drilled this ball a couple of weeks ago and finally got enough oil to throw it.This is an aggressive ball.I drilled mine with the pin beside my ring finger and the cg stacked under it.This ball rolled great in a local tourney where the lanes were very oily.If you are looking for a ball for oil,this is it.
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Drilled this ball based off of my Predator Sparkles. I put the pin over my middle finger and shifted the Cg to the right with a small hole on my Axis. I was surprised how much of the flare I controlled by drilling it this way. I found that the ball cleared the fronts and midlane very nicely with a smooth but continuous backend. I used it a little bit in the Orlando Tour Stop and had very good success. I agree with most of the posts it is a very versatile ball if you have someone that understands and is able to control ball flare drilling the ball for you. Not only for the price but period it is gonna be a good one.
p.s. I am gonna assume that you guys understand what surfaces work for you and you match the surface and drilling to your desired reaction.
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The Predator Jungle Green by Ebonite is a combination high performance and reasonable price. I have drilled one Jungle Green with the pin above the fingers at 5 inches from my PAP and the cg is at 3. The ball was left in box condition and the balance hole is in my PAP.
I have bowled only on synthetic surfaces since drilling the Jungle Green, and I have an Apex Addiction with a similar layout. The Jungle Green is a nice combination of power and predictability. It does not rev up as hard in the midlane when compared to the Apex Addiction which provides an easy step down in ball choice when needing a particle ball. However the Jungle Green is by no means weak, it just has a delayed breakpoint in comparison to the Addiction. In comparison to the Predator's this ball clearly gets through the front part of the lane easier than the solid and has an earlier but strong backend when compared to the Sparkle.
The Predator Jungle Green could be one of those Home Run balls. People are looking for equipment with versatility and value. I say that the Predator Jungle Green is a ball that all bowlers should consider for medium to oily lanes.
Jim Lewis
Ebonite Regional Staff
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I did not know what to expect from this ball as well. I drilled my Predator Sparkle with a small deep hole, hoping to maximize the use out of the shell to get it down and flip, but being a little wobbly at the breakpoint, I decided to try something new.
I drilled this one with the pin just to the right of my ring finger and the CG in the midplane. A 3 1/2"x5" drilling. I polished the box surface with Matte Finish.
I wanted to see if this will catch a predictable wrinkle on moderate OB and I think it will. I knuckled it in the flood and it still wanted to turn over, so I predict this will be a good ball on the fresh when other balls want to wiggle. A step above the Addiction in hook potential.
Another great addition -- Ebonite Strikes Again
Tim Penner
Ebonite Regional Staff
Midwest Region
tenpiner2@hotmail.com
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Hi All,
Just got my Jungle Green last night.....
I have the Savage pearl, Predator Solid and Predator Sparkle. All drilled revs leverage. I was looking for a ball that could handle medium oil with carrydown and can take over when the Savage pearl just can't recover enough due to the oil moving down.
After my experience with the Predator sparkle (more of a hook set ball, which doesn't have alot of recovery powers on carrydown)I was concerned in getting another particle ball for medium oil and was looking at the Savage Solid.
But after Ebonite answered a few questions I thought go for it.....and I must admit I'm sooooo glad I did.
This ball drilled exactly the same and kept in box condition does exactly what I want it to do, I bowl on synthetic lanes and a certain pair are always different, the right hand lane is always quicker than the left one. After getting it drilled I asked to go on this pair to give it a proper try out...
Warmed up using Savage pearl, standing 2 boards left of center dot, throwing around 3rd arrow arching in line with 2nd arrow and recovering to the pocket (my normal line).
On left lane no probs, on right lane just as expected it struggled to get back due to the slighly heavier / longer oil..
Got the Jungle Green out throw same line and bang, straight away crushed the pocket. Throught id throw it a bit wider and increased speed just to see how it would recover on off shots and was VERY IMPRESSED. This one is a keeper !! What surprises me the most is for a particle you actually think its a reactive the look on the lane, gets through the heads and most of the mid lane with ease and then really bites in, the carry is also very good !!
Now for soemthnig I wasn't expecting, but makes the ball even better....I decided to chuck the ball on the left lane, expecting the ball to hook more, but no in 3 strike shots, I got 2 washouts and the other just got to the head pin, due to the cleaner & drier backend this ball just lost its energy....why is this good ??
Well for me that really means its doing its job and is a very good lane reader as if I get that reaction I know the Pearl Savage should be the ball to use.
This ball takes the charcteristics from the Savage line and the Predators and mixes them to provide a great ball and one that completes my arsenal.
If you are looking for a ball that give you more recovery on medium oil than a pearl reactive, but is cleaner down the lane than using a sanded reactive this baby is for you and at the price, just like all the other cat series ball, it one that shouldn't be looked over !!!
Thanks for reading my review.
Regards
Stuart.
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If you've read some of my previous posts on the cat series
balls you know that I believe it would be rather easy to
create an arsenal at a reasonable cost, without using any
other balls, well that just got easier.
Don't be concerned that the ball is reasonably priced this
is easily one of the biggest hooking balls you could buy.
I used a 4 x 2 layout and the ball gave me a BIG continuous
arcing action and great hit.
Don't be afraid, just drill it!
BOWL TO WIN
MATT BALLARD
PBA WEST REGION MEMBER
EBONITE REGIONAL STAFF
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In my opinion this is the best particle ball we've had in a long time. Very versatile ball for a variety of conditions. Like the Addiction the cover is very user friendly. Out of the box this ball is very smooth and readable. Sees some play on pattern C (39'). I have 1 drilled at 4" at 11:00 pin under, no hole. Very smooth off the back of the pattern. This ball is easy to make minor adjustments off of. Polished this is a totally different ball. This ball acts like a particle through the fronts and mids but booms like a reactive in the back. When you need to get the ball down the lane and still jerk/hit, this is the one. I have one drilled at 5 1/2" at 11:00 pin under, no hole with a heavy shine ( factory finish - not particle polish ). This ball is quickly becoming a favorite of mine as well as Mika Koivuniemi and others. Ball saw a lot of play recently in Louisville, Ky
Bowl to Win
Jeff Carter
Ebonite staff member
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I drilled this predator 3-1/2 strong with extra hole 6" from grip in the thumb positive quadrant. My intention was to play far enough inside the top hat so the ball would not over react to the dry, but still roll in the oil. Bingo this one really surprised me. Not only did it work great, I got more backend than I thought with a 3-1/2" pin particle ball. For the price this one will be hard to beat. Great job EBONITE!
BOWL TO WIN
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Hello all,
Well just go the Jungle and WOW!!!!!!! had my man drill it up stacked and did this ball work for me. the first night i used it i shot average but only because of one big game but the problem wasn't the ball the problem was me learning how to use it properly. The second time i used it what i difference, i was pounding the pocket like a freight train. I was standing two boards left of middle and throwing to second arrow, this gave me about four boards to play with and i used them well. this ball is mean in the pocket and have a very nice reaction. i have to say for the price this is a ball for the ages! I am very impressed. Way to go ebonite!
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This ball is a must have!!! Surprisingly clean through the front and definitely strong enough in the back. Once again, Ebonite has introduced a real winner in their cat line. I drilled a jungle green predator with a 5 1/2" pin with no extra hole. This ball is great to use on league patterns when they start to carry down a little bit. Rolls through the carrydown without providing an over/under type of reaction.
CHRIS HANS
EBONITE AMATEUR STAFF MEMBER
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Been using this for about three weeks now.
Drilled the Jungle Green 4 inches at 60 degrees with a small hole 2 inches below my PAP. Hit the ball with Ebonite Factory Polish over there Extender Polish [which the cover took very easily]. I was trying to get a particle ball that I could throw with very good success on mediums, giving me a different look than my X-Factor and my Matrix Dynasty. Mission accomplished.
The Jungle Green is a pretty impressive piece. House pattern is basically an 8-8 block with quite a bit of oil in the middle, synthetics. On a fresh shot I was standing left foot on 24 looking at 13 playing the break right around 8. Very, very nice reaction. Not incredibly flippy [though this is probably due to the drilling - I think it'd be pretty easy to get this thing to skid-flip with the right pattern], but very long and powerful once it starts hooking. Carry was great.
I also found this ball to accept different hand posistions very well. I was able to swing the ball much more with my strong release, and noticed that the carry was still phenomal.
Overall a very good, versatile particle offering from Ebonite.
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This ball is UNBELIEVEABLE! Whether out of the box, or with particle polish, this ball is a winner. On a longer pattern, this ball is good with a red pad, and can give you an earlier start. When they are hooking, you can polish it up and go around the lane. This ball is very versatile, all you have to do is fiddle around wiith the surface and it will do whatever you want it to.
BOWL TO WIN!!!!!
Erik Ramos
Ebonite Regional Staff
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I have my Jungle drilled with a 4" pin 12:00 with the surface out of the box. This ball gives me a nice roll in the oil but does not give a strong overaction when I got it out in the dry. It was very smooth and controllable at the breakpoint and hit with very good power. This could very well replace the V2 Particle as my new favorite particle. It appears that Ebonite has has come up with a winner.
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Mark Johnson
Ebonite Regional Staff
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I have the pro-am version of this ball (purple sheen sparkle), but after posting on the forums, I found out that this is the jungle green with the exception of the color, so here's what I found out. I got this ball drilled last Monday afternoon (June 16th) because I told my driller that I wanted a ball that I can throw around 3rd arrow in my comfort zone (between 15-18th board left side) out to 5 with the hook in to set. He drilled me a ball with about 3oz of top and the pin at 2 1/2" or so. The pin was at 11 o'clock (next to my ring finger) with a small weight hole 3-4" away at the 9 o'clock position. When I tried it on 38' wood med-oily conditions after my league, I found it to have a nice, smooth roll with a predictable move to the pocket (when I was zeroed in on a good strike line: 12-13th board out to 4-5). The pin-action is really sick as I wasn't leaving many 7-pins at all. For the price and reaction, it's a no-brainer 10 out of 10. I haven't tried it on synthetic yet, but I plan on hitting the lanes tomorrow evening for the start of the weekly scratch sweepers. I'll post again if I find any significant differences, otherwise I recommend this highly to anyone with med-high revs, ball speed around 16-18mph with the out-of-the-box finish (sheen) and likes to throw it around 10-15th boards.
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Laughter is the language of the Gods.
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Drilled this up and used it in the ABC Senior Masters. ABC used 34ft oil pattern. No room for tug or swing. This ball stay right on line even in the late blocks. Had to alter the surface a bit. Good ball on Fresh Oil with crisp backends.
Ty Dawson
Ebonite Amateur Staff
BOWL TO WIN
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I purchased this ball maybe 2 months ago our bowling house started putting down more oil so I purchased this Predator Jungle Green and am I really impressed for the money I just dont think you can beat it. If you miss your target to the right it will come back looking for pocket. It's great if you don't have a lot of hand. Started league last night, I'm a 181 average first game 221 second 185 kept raising up at release, third game 220 this is in box condition I love this ball it is my favorite go to ball excellent price,thanks Ebonite
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1" pin, 2 oz top, 15#4. Final statics are: 11/16 side, 3/8 top. Another perfect Doug Sterner fit; all I had to do was wipe off the dust and throw it.
Bought it in the fire sale on EBay only because it was cheap. Don't know about its longevity, but if you need a good-rolling light-load particle ball, don't hesitate.
Laid out in Ebonite's symmetrical core #5 drilling - pin below the ring, mass bias near the VAL. I have an old V2 that works great in this layout, only with a weight hole to move the bowtie, where this one needed none. I wanted a fresh oil ball that would lay off a little on the backend. I wanted something that would go a few frames longer on a fairly wet synthetic house with big backends where the transition has always killed me.
I have never used a pin-down layout I didn't like, would own nothing except these if it weren't for flare-safety. No matter what the numbers, whether I flare over the fingers or not seems core-specific. I had no problems with Predator Jungle Green, so it might be flare safe for other people as well.
This is a super first ball on medium to middling wet fresh league shot. I also got to spend some time on PBA 'C' with it, and thought it was entirely too much ball to play in the middle. Can handle some carrydown, but unless you square up, the backend seems to be a too soft to handle big carrydown. It will be forgiving in transition, but you will probably need to put it up after that.
I want to work the words "clean", "smooth" and "strong" into every sentence. I did not get a really angular backend. It wanted to lay off on the backend. This is a hook-stop drilling, made to do just that, so no surprise there. For me, it's earlier and something less on the backend than the V2.
Best thing about it, hands down, is the effortless revs. I have never owned anything that revs up so well off my hand, earlier than the V2 solid, the Hammer Blades. In this regard, it reminds me the look of the love-em/hate-em Diesel Particles with more length.
The cover is maybe the slightest bit underpowered for this core. But it's good this way - if you put it in a stronger shell you couldn't get it long enough. This one needs some head oil, but given that it is pretty clean. When you lay it out, think in terms of something you'll feed from wet to dry.
Versatility: 9.0. You have to give it great marks here. Covers the whole range of mediums up into the heavy mediums. Revs and an appropriate drilling could let it reach into oiler range. A good bowler would have no trouble with it on nearly anything with heads.
Control: 8.5. Good rev and roll characteristics make it hard to blow through the breakpoint. This layout was easy to handle everywhere.
Hit and Carry: 8.0. Early revs in this layout sometimes left it without a lot of punch on the backend.