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Title: OPTYX Formula 1
Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
Specs: Coverstock: Reactive; Finish: Factory Polished; RG: 2.51 (medium low); Differential: .050 (medium high) Flare: High; Length: 5.1; Backend: 12; Hook Potential: 21; Available weights: 14 - 16lbs
Title: Re: OPTYX Formula 1
Post by: strikealot300 on May 13, 2001, 10:02:18 PM

Yes they recalled some balls... They were punching up 68 on the durometer. I saw a few ladies throwing them during practice @ Queens... the ball really hooks and looks awesome going down the lane... I am waiting for my ball from Ebonite they are telling me that they will ship the wk of the 21st <PBA member>

Looking forward to drilling this one
Title: Re: OPTYX Formula 1
Post by: ThatBowlinDude on May 28, 2001, 02:47:17 PM
Ebonite Demo Day was yesterday and I was hoping that they would have the Optyx, but they weren't ready to send it out to the public(I don't know why).  But luckily, the Ebonite guy brought his and let people throw it, I threw it and well............THAT BALL IS SWEET.  The pin was under the ring finger and the CG was a little bit under the center of his grip.  The conditions were medium-dry with about medium carrydown (250 frames had been bowled on each lane, go figure)  It has a little bit of hook in the pine like the Helix, and the backend snap of a Rock Pearl.  Overall the ball has a very similar motion to a Rock Pearl (except it looks alot cooler).

This ball gets a 9 out of 10 on my scale, I didn't have to pay it but the price is high and you will leave some ringing 10 pins most of the time.
Title: Re: OPTYX Formula 1
Post by: drillwizard on June 20, 2001, 10:40:02 PM
Sold 3 of these already in just 4 days.

Anyway finally drilled mine today.

I used it in a summer league tonight
and had 739.

I drilled mine 4 x 4 with no hole
top wt at 1 side wt at 1/2
pin right on ring finger cg under stacked
bomb at 12:00

Ball has excellent lenghth and above average backend
Carry is good but nothing out of this world.

The ball looks awesome rolling down the lane I will say that.

I knocked the polish off with Liquid Sandpaper and also
went 1500 and a little more gloss than the box finish.

I liked the 1500 gloss the best.

Overall it is an awesome looking ball with good lenghth
and strong but not sharp backend.

I have a few left if interested 179.95 plus ship.

Kidace1@aol.com
Title: Re: OPTYX Formula 1
Post by: mcarney on August 01, 2001, 12:43:06 PM
A lefty friend of mine bought this ball from the PBA and finally got it in last week.  Assuming it wasn't going to do much, I set it up with the pin just above the ring finger at 11 o'clock and the CG kicked out 3 inches.  The BOMB locator was out about 9 inches(!!) from the CG.  GO PBA!!

This is not an oil ball.  The best line is outside playing a small oil-dry shot.  It needs some oil, but so does urethane.  Ebonite balls traditionally roll early, which favors carry so it does have that benefit.  It looks cool but the ends don't justify the means.

Wait for a sale.  I will.
Title: Re: OPTYX Formula 1
Post by: Jace Peterson on August 26, 2001, 02:59:14 PM
I got my Optyx 2 weeks ago. I drilled it with the pin 3 inches from pap
and the bomb a 1-1/4 inches right of the grip center line. What I have
found, was the ball is very strong thru the midlane, with a heavy roll
thru the pins, with little deflection. The ball seemed very sensitive when
the lanes transitioned. It kept going longer, but still arced strong off
a later break point. When the lanes settled down, it appeared I had a ton
of hold when my other balls wouldn't read it, once I got far enough right.
And I didn't lose much carry. At which point I struck for a long time.
There were a number of people that stopped  to watch, some because the
amount of striking being done on a new lane install(how do the new lanes
play best)and some because of the visual effect of the ball rolling down
the lane. Great ball once you learn how to use it effectively. Great job
Ebonite! I look forward to your next release.
Title: Re: OPTYX Formula 1
Post by: thegame on August 28, 2001, 02:56:05 PM
Just had this ball drilled last week.  Got drilling #1 on Ebonite's suggested drill sheet, which has the pin above the fingers, and the bomb at 12:00 from the pin, with the CG in the center of the grip.  This is a great ball.  This ball has excellent length, and a very strong move at the breakpoint.  The OPTYX can generate length, and hold on the outside, or can create power from inside angles.  The carry seems to be very good so far, and this ball is probably happiest on medium oil with decent backends.  The OPTYX is probably stronger than my Monster Red/Black Reactive, especially from the deep inside, but not as strong as my particle equipment (Fire Hawk, EMB, Brimstone Monster).  Another great product from Ebonite.
Title: Re: OPTYX Formula 1
Post by: Tony Glickley on September 12, 2001, 09:11:17 PM
O.K. Back to some reviews!
 My Formula 1 is a 15 lbs ball with a 3" pin out, 2-3/4 top weight. I drilled this with a 5" pin with the cg under the middle finger.
 The shot I bowl on is a tube, 10 units from gutter to gutter, with 20 units from 10 to 15 length 34 feet.
 This ball reminds me of my first Matrix Trimax. The shell of this ball seems to have a smoother transition than the 1st Matrix. I like to pull this ball out when the the heads are starting to fry. Still, like all the trimax shells , the clear Optyx shell will get you down the lane with plenty left for the back end.
Good Ball, a little pricy but I can't wait to see Jason couch throw it on T.V.  Tony
Title: Re: OPTYX Formula 1
Post by: BuddiesProShopcom - Bill on October 04, 2001, 08:14:40 AM
The Optyx Formula 1 has been a ball that everyone has waited a long time for, and our shop was just able to get a couple in.  I decided to drill one.

I must say that I wasn't impressed with the ones that I had seen thrown up to that point.  All of the drillings on the Optyx that I watched had the Pin above the fingers and the CG right around the grip line, no more than 1/2" off the line.  So we decided to drill mine stronger and see what happened.

Laid the ball out with the Pin outside my ring finger with the CG stacked in line.  Note that the bomb was straight in line with the Pin and CG.  The Pin and CG were 4 X 4 from my PAP.

I threw 3 games on 2nd shift and averaged right around 230 with this ball, then I used it 2 days later on 1st shift and average around 220 for the night.  I found that this ball is strong on in the midlane and smooth continious arcing to the pocket.  This ball hits like a truck.

This ball is fun to watch as it revs up and turns over.  I think this ball is a couple boards stronger than the Vortex 2 and a similiar reaction for me.

One think I want to know that I think this ball is driller sensitive and you must be aware of where the Bomb is going to end up on the ball.

On a scale of 1-10, I would give this ball a 7.5.  I think that it can fit into most bowlers hand without a lot of problems.  The ball is exciting to watch because of its look and the way the ball explodes in the pocket.  I would give this ball higher, but I have seen what bad layouts can do with this ball.

If you have any questions, please email me at Bill@buddiesproshop.com

Thanks
Bill
BuddiesProShop.com
Title: Re: OPTYX Formula 1
Post by: Phatdon on November 14, 2001, 05:11:14 AM
Just bought this ball Friday, 15#. Drilled it up with a modified version of suggested drill pattern #3. Pin is approx. 1/2" below and just slightly right of the ring finger, bomb is stacked at 12:00. This puts the CG directly in front of the thumb hole, no extra hole required. Balanced out just fine, well within ABC tolerances. Anyway, figured it would rev up early and hold a tight line for when the heads burn up. That it does on synthetic lanes. Found out last night, it does not work the same on wood lanes. There, it goes long and turns hard. Had to maintain about 17 mph 12-7 to keep it right. I must agree with everyone else, this ball looks really cool going down the lanes, but I did not think it would hit that hard. Carried the corners well, most of the night. Slightly unforgiving if tugged or sent wide. Had about 3 boards of area to work with. All tolled, a good ball, way too expensive, but the hype Ebonite put on it prior to release was close. It will hook out of the house depending on how you drill it.
Title: Re: OPTYX Formula 1
Post by: Malvyn on November 16, 2001, 11:53:59 AM
Hi all OPTYX owner, wanted to know you have the same problem?
I own a 14lbs drill pattern #3. Rolled for about a week and found between the clear cover and the core there are some air bubble. Rolled for another few session this bubble spread and it now look like a huge map. Try to check with EBONITE.com they did not reply my mails. Look like this is kind of a defect in product design. Anyone can share info about this?  Otherwise it is a good ball to roll with.
Title: Re: OPTYX Formula 1
Post by: GLC300 on November 16, 2001, 12:40:24 PM
Amazing
  Have mine drilled 3 3/8 x 3 3/8 leverage. First time out with the ball, shot 300 with it and 750 series. Last night shot 196-277-267=740. No matter what anyone tells me about the ball, I'm not listening. Heard many rumors that this ball is a piece, but whenever I throw it, I have the world. I'm 17-18 mph, 45 deg axis and this ball rolls very well. Have lots of area, 5 boards with this drilling. Haven't shot anything under 650 with the ball. Everytime I take this ball out, people tell me to put it back because they believe it sucks, thats when I show them who the real boss is. This is my $$$$ ball. Thanks.
Title: Re: OPTYX Formula 1
Post by: 2Powerful4u on November 20, 2001, 04:15:21 PM
I need some information if someone would take the time
to help me.  I just purchased an Optyx and i would like to
know some stuff about it.  What would be the best things to
do to maintain the ball?  Do i need a rag or something to whipe
the oil off the ball after every shot?  If so, why?  I heard
some balls soak up the oil from the lanes, and it ruins the ball.  Any
information would be appreciated.  THANX!
Title: Re: OPTYX Formula 1
Post by: Jim Lewis on December 17, 2001, 06:27:52 PM
The Optyx is a strong high performance ball that also has a unique cool look rolling down the lane. The layout on my Optyx was same as on a Vortex 2, the bomb at 10:30, pin at 3 1/2 from my pap, cg low with a low hole 3 inches below my pap on vertical axis line.  The Optyx cleared the heads similar to the shiny Vortex 2, but was more angular in midlane and hooked about 3 boards more than Vortex 2. The lane condition was a Sport Condition on a Brunswick Armorplate surface oiled 42 ft with a 2.5 to 1 ratio.  I find this layout to provide strongest consistent roll for myself on sport league conditions. The Optyx is a very nice buy for someone looking for a combination of high performance and cool unique look.

Jim Lewis
Ebonite Regional Staff
Title: Re: OPTYX Formula 1
Post by: birddog on January 20, 2002, 10:42:01 PM
got this ball 1 week ago today
dont know exact drilling
but he said he drilled it for maximum backend
and it has just that
I love how this ball comes back at the last second
and it looks cool going down the lane
I play down and in shot
awesome ball in my opinion
Title: Re: OPTYX Formula 1
Post by: GJACKSON on February 19, 2002, 11:23:37 PM
I must start by saying what a night and what an awesome ball!

My Optyx is 1200 grit and polish to 1200.  It's drilled 4x2 (pin over the ring finger)  The lane conditions I bowled on was medium oil 10 to 30 and light 10/30 to the gutter and down to about 38 feet.  I started out standing on 27 placing the ball around 16 and going to 5.  WOW what a backend reaction.

The first game was a 257. The second was an identical, another 257.  The last ball of the second game and the first of the third the ball went a little high but still struck.  I move one board left and there I was back in the pocket.  I finsh the last game with a 248.  Finish the night with a 762!  That my highest yet! (Last September I rolled 755 in the same house with the same ball.)

I can't say enough THANKS EBONITE for your great equipment!  Keep up the good work!

Feel free to email me with your questions at JACKSON4LIFE@MSN.COM

Title: Re: OPTYX Formula 1
Post by: lafbowler on August 07, 2002, 11:48:08 AM
I must say I was a little optpmisitc about buying a ball, but this is the best ball I have ever had. I bought the ball last week and used it for the first time in a industry wide tournament in New Orlans, Louisiana. My first series with this ball was 247,237,211. Great back end on the ball. I also wound up bowling my first 300 with this ball in the same weekend. I am very pleased with my purchase. Great ball at a great price.
Title: Re: OPTYX Formula 1
Post by: cursedinvt on August 12, 2002, 02:42:29 PM
When i first saw this ball advertised i thought that although it had a reactive coverstock it would hook as much a say a gyro because it had a polished clear appearance.  I said what the hell and found one an x-out on ebay and drilled it will the pin under the bridge and cg out 3/4 of an in.  I will tell you this doesn't hook like a gyro at all.  On medium to heavy oil this came back into the pocket from deep with the best in my arsenal, i was suprised.  I also was getting more revs because the x-out was 14lb and i throw 15.  If i had the money i would get the spider or perhaps this 1st quality in 15lb.  This ball is only x-out for problems with the color (white spots along the checkers that aren't supposed to be there) so if anyone dropping weight wants to trade drop me a message.
Title: Re: OPTYX Formula 1
Post by: ACE300Bowler on October 02, 2002, 11:56:18 AM
This ball i had drilled also as 4x4 with a leverage hole. This was the last ball i expected to have a huge hook.  I came out throwing it 24 swinging out to the five board and coming back like there was no oil on the lane.  Driving hard and not stoping for simple bowling pins, it smashed right trhough them.  This is also one of the only balls that was very consistant through heavy oil. I recomend this ball to anyone who plays a large hook and needs power through the heads.  Great ball!
Title: Re: OPTYX Formula 1
Post by: cocamidoproply on October 19, 2003, 04:53:29 PM
Had this ball for about a month and a half, and i think it is finally time to post a review on it.

Top weight = ???
Pin = 3 inches
15#'s
Pin is above and right of ring finger, CG directly below, parallel to holes.
THS

This ball fitted the niche in which i had inteded it for perfectly.  A lane condition where my Cold Fusion wasn't enough, and my Assault was too much.

HEADS:  This cover here seems to be weaker than a solid, but stronger than a pearl.  Clears the heads pretty well, but that is also aided on by the high RG core.

MIDLANE:  This is where the ball starts to expend its energy.  Has a great midlane read that hardly ever causes an erratic breakpoint.  Very consistent on where it releases its energy.

BACKEND:  This is where this ball really shines.  When that Matrix core stands up, watch out!  The backend on this ball is absolutely insane!  It easily outbackended an EMB pearl, Messenger Ti BSP, and a Wicked (original).  Just absolutely amazing.

ROLL/HIT:  Again, another strong point.  Every Ebonite i have ever thrown has a very distinctive roll characteristic to it.  Gets into a very stong roll which equates to pin punishing power.  Carries very well, in fact, this is the ball i used to shoot my first 300.

SENSITIVITY:  The ball has a couple of weakpoints that i've noticed.  It seems to be more than sensitive to carrydown.  After about the second game, i have to move farther outside, and sometimes, I have to come up the back of the ball more to aid in geting it into an earlier roll to get it through the carry down.  It also doesn't too well when tugged.  Even on THS, this ball will overpower the oil lane and go Brooklyn.  It also doesn't like to hit low in the pocket, the lower it hits, the more 4,7,and 8 pins i saw.

SUMMARY:  Very good ball so long as you have some head oil to get it to the backend.  Once it gets to the backend, if its on the right side of the lane, it will find the hole.  VERY adaptive to release change.  I can make this a spare ball just as soon as i can make it my strike ball.  Seems to know what you want it to , and then accomplishes it.  When the oil carries down, you either need to play more direct, or find some dry midlane.  Serves as my current benchmark ball.  Reads the oil aptetrn very well, and i can use it with alot of luck in tournaments.
--------------------
Clay

Pink and purple polka-dotted elephants are really cool, but i haven't seen any yet...
Title: Re: OPTYX Formula 1
Post by: JessN16 on June 28, 2008, 07:59:20 PM
The ball: 16 pounds, 4-inch pin
The drill: pin above ring, CG under ring, BOMBS Away leaves MB strong, down and just inside the VAL and below right of the thumb. Works out to 3.75 x 3.5 x 4 drill for me. No weight hole. Finish is box.
Me: PAP 4 over 3/8 up, tweener revs, good speed, good circumference coverage

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I've had this ball since it was a new model but have never used it as my primary piece of equipment. Still, after some recent testing I thought it might be interesting to review this older, unique piece of equipment on today's oils.

For testing, I rolled in on a modified THS that has decent oil volume outside 8. Two lengths were used, 37 and 40 feet.

When I first bought this ball around 2003, I was amazed with its performance given that I thought it was a bit of a gimmick. For those who have never seen one, the outside inch or so of the shell is clear, but reactive. There is debate over whether it's a pearl or a polished solid. Ebonite calls it a polished solid, but its performance characteristics are more like a strong pearl.

What's interesting about this ball's performance is that it is strong, strong, strong. The core is out of the Matrix, strong for its time but now one of Ebonite's weaker offerings. Still, the combination of that core and this cover make for a ball that is a midlane monster, with great continuation off the spot.

It also carries exceptionally well, owing to its strength.

Many people bought this ball thinking it was a dry-lane ball or even for medium-drys, but that is not the case. This ball, even today, needs medium oil to shine, and can actually handle more than that.

Its shortcomings can be summed up thusly: When it stops working, put it up. This is one of the least versatile balls I've thrown. It works great within a very narrow range of conditions, but it doesn't take changes in input well and if you try to force it, you'll be battling over/under all night long.

As for surface changes, I have not tried any. I'm a bit scared that I can't get the surface to come back up to box finish so that the underlying graphics can show through.

Another plus for this ball that I must mention is that it defies, somewhat, Ebonite's reputation for quick ball death. I now have about 60-80 games on this ball and it's performing like new, even though I've done very little maintenance to it.

These balls are very rare but do show up on eBay from time to time and, for some reason, tend to be sold at very low prices. If you can find one, pick it up. Even if you don't use it, it's a great conversation piece. The summary:

Positives: Stronger than you'd think, great on mediums, above-average carry even when compared to current-day offerings.

Negatives: Very narrow range of effectiveness, not a dry-lane piece, not what you want for a benchmark ball.

Overall: For what it does, it does very well. For what it's not designed to do, it won't do at all.

Jess