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Title: Stinger Low Flare
Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM

Coverstock: Pearlized Detonator Plus reactive resin

Box Finish: 800 grit sanded, then factory polished

Color: Blue /Teal Pearl

Core: Low flare ellipse core

Flare Potential: Low

Length: 21.60 (Ebonite's scale of 1 to 30, early to late)

Overall Hook: 13.05 (Ebonite's scale of 1 to 30, least to most)

Breakpoint Angle: 3.8 (Ebonite's scale of 1 to 10, most smooth to most angular)

Best Lane Condition: Light Oil
Title: Re: Stinger Low Flare
Post by: CoachJim on September 03, 2002, 03:58:26 PM
I got this at a demo days in Vegas when I was out there 2 weeks ago. I had it drilled pin 4" from pap cg 75 degrees (4x4). This ball goes very long and makes a strong move. I have not had a better ball for dry lanes since my old Super Beast. I have yet to find a condition where this ball burns up. If you need length and pleanty of hit, I highly recomend this ball. My thanks to John at Sunset lanes for drilling it for me and fixing my grip problems.
Title: Re: Stinger Low Flare
Post by: tomtom123 on September 04, 2002, 09:57:53 PM
what a ball! its the best dry to med ball ive used in a long time. ive noticed it keeps the pins low on the deck a lot of messengers running around. doesnt seem to burn up on dryer patterns just getts stronger and longer.i like the smooth arc it has not real jumpy even on clean backends. u need a dry ball this should not be over looked ive had mine 3 weels and love it.
Title: Re: Stinger Low Flare
Post by: gene riley on September 15, 2002, 11:34:10 PM
med speed med rev lefty.
pap 6 3/8 over 1 3/8 up.

drilled stinger lf last week threw it for the first time today.
ball started 15.3 with 3 oz of top and pin 2.
put pin right below ring finger....cg kicked out small deep
weight hole on val below midline.

bowled 2 different houses with it today.
first house wood lanes wood approaches.
fairly heavy long flat pattern.
played out side ball went fairly long....nice arc to the
pocket. setting ball down on about 10 playing break point of 6-8.

second house first generation synthetics...approaches and lanes.
the pattern was one of the abc sport conditions. even though this
ball gets to the break point very clean still not enough oil to
play up the boards. setting the ball down at about 20 playing break
point of about 12.

this ball gets down the lane very well. rolls almost like plastic
to the break point.....then once it hits the break point rolls alot
like a blue or red pearl hammer....hit is as good as any high end
equipment i have ever thrown....pin carry is exceptional...keeps
pins low...and mixes them like nothing i have thrown in a very long
time. would like to  get a case of them and try a few different drillings.
really like the tornados....but at least initially this appears to be a
much better ball for my game and the price is very good.
Title: Re: Stinger Low Flare
Post by: Eddie Williams on October 11, 2002, 08:13:24 PM
Kids here goes another review:
         Lets talk about the Stinger Low Flare. This ball I drilled 4 x 4 no hole. I use this ball on short patterns. This ball is very good for people who are looking for a ball for drier lane conditions.Its very clean through the front of the lane. Doesn't like to much oil unless you turn the cover off the ball. Again its another great ball and for the price of around $100 you are not going to be disappointed.

                Eddie Williams
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Eddie Williams PBA Regional member
Title: Re: Stinger Low Flare
Post by: Jace Peterson on October 16, 2002, 06:49:34 PM
I drilled this five inch pin above the ring finger strong extra hole 1 inch past val.  For me the good thing about this ball is it pushes farther than my pearl savage.  The surprising thing is how much ground it makes up on the backend.  Lets just say it's less than a pearl savage but not a lot.  Sometimes on drying conditions thats all you need to have more power at the pins.  I believe this ball does just that.  Mine skates through the fronts and has plenty left on the back.  I would like to get another one and drill it leverage to see how much "tamer" it would be on the back.  However, on regional patterns, this one works great.
Title: Re: Stinger Low Flare
Post by: john_kleist on November 19, 2002, 10:27:41 PM
I am a high revs, high speed bowler.  Not the ball that I thought it would be.  When I ordered this ball I was looking for a predictible ball to hook less than my Monster ScreamR.  This ball was drilled up 5X5 which put the pin above the ring finger and the CG towards the center of the grip.  This ball gets through the heads very well.  But when it sees dry boards LOOK OUT it makes a Left Turn.  I thought this ball would give me a very predictible reaction and in fact it gave me the exact opposite.  Very inconsistant.  If you are looking for something for the dryer lanes but not the fried I would definitely go with a Monster ScreamR instead.
Title: Re: Stinger Low Flare
Post by: Wrongside on January 07, 2003, 10:11:36 AM
Ball Specs
Drilled pin above bridge and CG kicked out towards PAP. roughly 5.5 x 5, ,pin above bridge
Surface has not been altered

My Specs
See Proflie

Tested Conditions
Condition A: Standard Xmas Tree oiled to 36 ft
Condition B: Standard Wet/Dry 10-10 oiled to 40ft
Condition C: Inverted pattern, 40 feet

General Information
I would not consider this ball a 'dryer' lane ball as mentioned. It does get through the heads quite well but snaps HARD at the first sight of dry.

Condition A
Tried to play an outside line initially but due to this type of pattern the breakpoint was too early. After that I moved in and played more around 4th arrow out and the ball worked wonders from that angle. It hits VERY hard and rolls a little bit later in comparison to most other Ebonite products. I really enjoy this ball on this pattern when up the boards with urethane does not work and an inside angle is necessary.

Condition B
LOL NO. If you want to create your own over/under try it.

Condition C
I was able to use this ball on this pattern if played straight up the outside but there was Zero room for error. Like stated before, if it hit the dry, it takes off. If you fluctuate your speed too much, the reaction is squirlly. I am going to try this again on this condition this week and (1) throw it with a lower track and (2) throw a little more of a fluff shot to see what happens.
 
Rankings, 10 point system
Condition A - 8
Condition B - 4
Condition C - unsure as of yet

Final Thoughts
I really enjoy this ball, but like most of today's equipment it is very condition specific for me and is not really the lighter condition reactive that I thought I was getting. Overall I like the hit and absolutely love playin inside with it when I am able. Also, for the price, I am amazed at how hard it hits.



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Title: Re: Stinger Low Flare
Post by: Track900 on February 06, 2003, 11:43:47 PM
I have had the ball for nearly three months now, and this is probably one of the best pieces of equipment I have ever owned.  Do not be fooled by the low hook rating.  This ball will cover boards.  Mine is drilled like a modified label leverage.  It is the most predictable and controllable ball in my bag.  It is my number one go to ball.  It will get to the pocket and strike on anything.  And all the while HITS like a TRUCK!  As long as there is not a flood this ball will do the trick.  Great ball from ebonite (as always).
Title: Re: Stinger Low Flare
Post by: James Campbell on February 14, 2003, 09:44:09 PM
I have two of this ball. Ball # 1 is drilled with 4 1/2 inch pin from my axis point. The pin is on center of grip line 2 inches above CG. This ball gets down the lane and has good back end. This ball is very good on little oil. Ball # 2 is drilled with a 1 1/2 inch pin from CG. I drilled this one with the pin on my axis. This ball goes down the lane farther than the first one. I still get a good reaction to the pocket with a nice even hook. Again a very good ball for dry lanes. If you liked the Panther you will like this ball. For me it's the best ball Ebonite makes for dry lanes.


James Campbell
Ebonite South Region Staff Member
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Title: Re: Stinger Low Flare
Post by: BT on February 22, 2003, 07:37:09 AM
Bought this ball in hopes of it working when the backends are fried. The reaction I got was NOT what I expected! Drilled it for a nice even low hook with the pin way out right of the fingers and the CG in near center of grip. (3 inch pin 14 lb) This ball is AWESOME for the price! It's my favorite ball when th elanes are medium oil with somewhat dry backends! Hits like a truck! Lots of messengers with light hits! Keeps pins low. I am about a 195 avg bowler, 15-17 mph medium revs. I have been averaging 200-205 with this ball! To my surprise I like it better than my Monster Frenzy and Vortex 2 Particle! Very predictable the way its drilled. Just wonder how another drilling would work. I may buy another one just to see. This ball has convinced me without a doubt that a 14 lb ball works just as good if not better than my 15 and 16 lb balls I have used in the past! Gets through the heads very clean but when it finds the dry look out, it will turn the corner very hard! Is out of the box with no surface changes.
Title: Re: Stinger Low Flare
Post by: The Dragon on March 28, 2003, 12:40:41 PM
Specs: 15 lb, 3.5pin, 5x3. Review my profile for speed, revs etc.
Used on a variety of conditions from lighter oil with carrydown, medium oil with fresh backends, and completely toasted open bowling conditions.
Anything more than a medium oiled condition, keep it in the bag.

With this drilling and the shiney resin cover, the ball goes long (about the same length as a similarly drilled Savage Pearl), but makes a hard, controlled arc at the breakpoint (as opposed to the snap of the Savage).  Savage hooked about 4 boards more than the Stinger 2pc LF on medium conditions with fresh backends.

Carry is devastating on flush hits, and it very good on light hits. Variation in hand position, will not cause the ball to overreact or under react.  Ball did seem to carry better with a more ?up-the-back? release.

On medium oil with fresh or flying backends, this ball is superior for me when compared to most shiny resins (like V2P, Savage, Conquest), as it provides a defined, readable, arcing move at the breakpoint, but still crushes the pins.  I play the Stinger LF over the centre arrow, out to around the 5th board, 40-some feet down the lane, then left turn into the pocket.  Everything is under control though.

On medium oil (& medium light oil) with carrydown, the ball just does not seem to have enough umph to kick out the corner pins consistently enough for my liking.  Too much skid close to the pin deck.  For this condition, use equipment with a more dynamic core and/or more powerful coverstock (V2 solid, Lane#1 Pearl Bomb, Trauma ER, Boost, Inferno).

I used the Stinger 2p LF on completely toast conditions (during Cosmic bowl).   Frankly it outperformed by Storm Soccer Ball on that condition.  The only problem for me, is I had to throw the stinger LF across centre arrow out to the 2 board, to get it to the pocket.  If I executed that shot, it destroyed the rack.  

Conclusion: this ball is a great piece of equipment on medium to medium light oil with fresh or flying backends.  If your alley does not regularly strip the lanes, or if they are oiled with something more than medium, need to consider a ball with more surface and/or more dynamics.  
Title: Re: Stinger Low Flare
Post by: sandbagging_uncool on June 15, 2003, 03:18:06 AM
Ok I am totally rewriting my review.  I do not think this Ebonite Stinger Low Flare is a very versitle bowling ball.  It hits like a ton when the condition is in favor of this ball.  I think the backend ratings and the overall hook rating of this bowling ball is completly inaccurate.  The length rating is probably correct.  This ball can slide down the lane a long way and then all of the sudden take a huge turn.

I think this bowling ball is great for medium oil with a huge amount of carry down.  It is not a good light oil ball.
Title: Re: Stinger Low Flare
Post by: RevLefty on January 24, 2004, 10:57:02 AM

   I am a lefty that has good ball speed at 17-19mph.  Stinger is a great ball at a great price.  If you have many revs like me it is not for the lane condition it was designed for.  I have had two of these and they were both drilled same way. but one was a 16 and one 15 i went down to 15.
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This drilling gives good length and back end like no other with high rev rate.  It is a good med to med light ball for someone like me but will work on dirt for somebody with less revs than i have.  Great great ball/  Have had multiple award scores with both of them.  The hitting power is phenomenal for a low end ball.  Cant say enough about these balls.  If you are just starting out or someone that is very good it works for all but is a steal at this price.
give this ball a ten out of ten. Great ball ebonite.
Title: Re: Stinger Low Flare
Post by: bOwLiNgPiMp243 on November 26, 2004, 04:00:22 PM
AWESOME BALL!!!!!!!!!!
Lane Conditions: Light Oil
Typical Conditions: Variety of Shots
Type of Lane: All Synthetic
What part of the lane did you play? Outside First Arrow
Did the ball track out? Normal
Weight of bowling ball: 15
Surface of bowling ball: Polished
What grit was the surface of the ball? 400
Likes: GREAT BALL!!!!!!!!!
Dislikes: NUTTIN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ryan Pinero( great cat/ funnier than a bih../and good friend) told me that this ball was great! so i went to Dave Olm(proshop owner/boss/ awesome bowler/great person)and he had one he didnt want... so i was like CAN I GET IT! and i get it! lol the pin is leverage.. great drilling! this ball did wat i needed.... it went long but not like BALLS long.. but just right... with awesome backend! lord! Now im gonna talk to fill up the time...
Everyones goin adult next year..... what should i do? no one but really crappy people will be in the leagues im in.... GRR! i might just go adult......... w/e......or i can go to a diff house for other leagues but stay @ crown cuz CROWN LANES IS HOTTNESS! ITS ALL ABOUT THAT CROWN LANES! U KNO!..
Title: Re: Stinger Low Flare
Post by: DP3 on July 25, 2006, 02:58:00 PM
The Stinger Low Flare is one ball I always find myself going back to over the years.  When I was a sophomore in college this ball came out and it was a staple all across the country in college bowling for the power players.  It was strong and controllable enough to let them use it on fresh and direct angles, and it was clean enough to use on second blocks when the heads would fry out.  

My original low flare back then was drilled 4 x 2 with a weighthole 2" below the PAP and it had all of the aforementioned traits I just spoke of.  Oil downlane is a nightmare for the low flare, but that's the exact opposite of what it's for.  

I just acquired a new Low Flare Pearl and drilled it 3 x 3(a drilling that I NEVER use) with a weighthole 1" past my PAP.  I figured with today's oils being a bit thicker and my preference for playing as close to the gutter as possible(especially when they get tough), then this would be the best layout to mimmick the old reaction of my Low Flare circa 2002.  On fresh house patterns, the low flare is more than enough ball to handle medium length wet-drys, especially when playing near the friction.  Low speed guys will love the control this ball gives off the spot down the lane, enabling the slow wheelers to see predictability at the breakpoint.  The higher speed/firmer rev players like myself will love being able to square up to over-reactive conditions with SLF  and play the friction zone for a long time.  On really burnt patterns, the boomers will love getting inside 5th & 6th arrow, loosening up the armswing and letting the ball fly into the friction zone downlane.

The Ice was never really a good replacement for the Stinger Low Flare, it was way too cover grabby.  These are starting to pop up all over ebay now and I'd strongly advise anyone struggling with wet-dry situations or shorter patterns to go to this ball.  Spec wise, there's nothing like it on the market now.
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Title: Re: Stinger Low Flare
Post by: todder on December 19, 2006, 12:03:05 PM
This ball continues to suprise me.  I shot 300 with it a year and a half ago, then it cracked and i threw it away.  I recently got a good deal on another one and bought it.  This is the best dry lane ball i have ever used.  It allows me to stay farther right than everyone else and play right up the oil line.  When everyone else has moved deep, im playing up 12 and just destroying the rack with this ball, but beware, on a fresh shot if the ball sees oil it goes straight and is dead on arrival.

On drier lanes the stinger gives me the best look at the pocket out of all of my equipment, no suprises, extremely predictable, and solid carry.  There arent many of these left.  If you get a chance to throw one i'd take advantage.