Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
Color: Purple
Coverstock: Particle
Core: 2-piece
RG: 2.451
Differential: 0.046
Factory finish: Matte
Post by: BuddiesProShopcom - Bill on September 05, 2002, 04:39:13 PM
I laid this ball out with the CG 4" and the Pin 5". I left the ball out of the box.
The Sport shot I bowled on was heavy oil 12 to 12 with 12 to 7 being drier, and 6 to the gutter is a flood.
I was able to move in deeper with this ball and hold the line. When I turned it up, it would still get down the lane and save its energy for a smooth midlane move to the pocket. This ball had good recovery and when it gets the pocket it explodes the pins.
If you like that Vortex Line, you have to put this in your bag. If you are looking for a good midlane arcing ball that can handle medium-heavy oil, this is the ball. I have thrown every Vortex, and this coverstock is the strongest by far.
If you have any questions, please email me at Bill@buddiesproshop.com
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Thanks
Bill
BuddiesProShop.com
"The Place All Bowlers Shop"
Post by: Mongo on September 24, 2002, 09:34:34 AM
Specs:
15 lb.
2" pin
4 oz. TW
Drill Specs"
5 X 5 (pin above bridge)
Box finish
Tested on fresh house shot (36', 10 to 10 with 50 units in the middle)
If you've been looking for a particle that you can go coast to coast with, look no further because this is it.
Tested this ball along with the Dynothane Cure and realized just how different particles can be. Played in the oil with the Cure swinging 15 to 5 and got a nice big curve. That didn't happen with the Vortex II Particle. Playing the same line I got a near hockey stick reaction with the V2 going 2-3 feet farther and coming back at an angle I couldn't believe.
The V2 Particle reacts like a strong reactive on screaming backends, but does it on conditions where you wouldn't expect to get that reaction. The weird thing is that it comes back from anywhere, but it isn't jerky. I can't really explain the move, but it's not the stop and turn that you see from many of the big boy balls out there. Kind of picture how a NASCAR driver takes a car way up on a bank on a steep incline in a turn and drops it off down low on the straightaway.
This is just a great particle dull, I may have to get another and shine it up. For those of you who have been wanting a particle with a big backend, Ebonite makes it and it's called the Vortex 2 Particle.
Post by: Jace Peterson on October 16, 2002, 06:40:54 PM
The three inch polished I drilled for a sport league I bowl in. They only oil 39 feet and the backends go sideways. This gives me control through the whole lane. If I make a good shot I strike, and if I make a bad shot at least I know where it's going.
I think the V2 particle is more versitile than your average particle ball.
Good Job Ebonite.
Post by: rob clark on November 20, 2002, 04:28:03 PM
First 3 games on brand new AMF synthetics that are stripped each time they're dressed. Hook, hook and more hook. As they broke down I moved everything left 10 boards and cut the revs down. I hooked by several corners by not allowing for the coast to coast hook. Only averaged 189 for the night.
Last night on wood with 22' of the dreaded guardian I shot 627 the first set and 551 the second (different pair). Both sets had to move and change release as the heads got dry on the right lane. Went from 0 to 45 degrees release angle to get some push down the lane. Had lots of trip 4s. I needed to have eaten my wheaties for when the lanes dried up though. Guardian is so soft that it really bleeds energy from any non-shiny equipment.
I'll post again later when I've got more games on the ball.
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Rob Clark
St. Louis
Post by: Popsdad on November 30, 2002, 02:01:48 PM
Post by: trostwl on December 24, 2002, 02:19:06 PM
I got this ball to handle those occasions when they actually put some long oil out and my Blaze gets "squirty", or when the carry-down gets out of hand and/ or the backends aren't there.
Ball specs:
15#
3" pin
drilled stacked leverage with the pin slightly above the ring.
Weight hole on PAP
Lane conditions: Two houses, both Brunswick synthetics. House #1 has the old (no stripe) and I bowl in two leagues, a scratch league (3-man) and a men's league (5-man)both on fresh shots, although the 5-man shot seems to be thinner (goes away in about 15 frames). House #2 has the new Anvilane with the stripes and breakpoint markers where I bowl in second shift scratch league (3-man).
This is one powerful ball. When the conditions are right, especially in house #1 it's a killer. Last night I was able to bowl the whole four games set with only a one board move for new personal bests in three and four game series.
The ball revs off the hand really well, and a release adjustment can cause it to react differently to suit the conditions. Last night I was using my end-over-end high-track release, but I've also been able to "top" it with good results (track drops about an inch). The reaction has been described here before, but I'd call it a slightly rounded hockey stick, that stays that way even after the lanes are spotty.
It's usually my first ball out of the bag, as it reads the conditions well and let's me know whether it's going to be usable. Only problem I've had is that I like the feel of this ball so much, that it's hard to put it away, even when it's not working. It's usually done by the middle of the second game in my 5-man league, and sometimes won't work at all on my second-shift league. Then again, when the back-ends go away, I can often bring it back out with some success.
This is my first "non-Storm" ball, but it could make me a convert.
Post by: Jim Lewis on December 25, 2002, 06:28:16 PM
The hooking nature of the Vortex 2 Particle is similar to the V2 solid. It may not visually appear to be angular except for bowlers with strong rev rate/speed releases. However on heavier oil an early heavy rolling arc is desired instead of the a ball that wants to store energy. In these situations, "Go long and TRY to hook hard" isn't the answer as the more angular hooking ball will slide through the breakpoint area.
The Vortex 2 Particle will have roll out issues for those with soft ball speed combined with broken down head conditions or on lightly oiled lanes .
Anyone who had success with the Vortex 2 solid reactive ball should have a Vortex 2 Particle for heavier oil. Those who have not tried the Vortex II Particle should consider rolling a great mid-price choice that provides consistent heavy rolling ball reaction.
Jim Lewis
Ebonite Regional Staff
Post by: Lefty210 on December 26, 2002, 11:26:13 AM
my love for the particle as well. I have mine drilled 4 x 2 with mass bias
2" from my PAP. This ball is also a "true" oil piece. I am thoroughly pleased
with the reaction although I have only been able to play with it twice since
I have had it which has been a little over a month. I was looking for 2 "great"
oil pieces that complimented one another very well and I have found that in the
V2 particle and V2 solid. Prior to this my "go to" balls for oil were a Sledgehammer drilled 3x5 and surfaced to 400 grit and an Erase-It drilled stacked leverage surfaced to 400 also. Check out my posts for those 2. These two balls did fine but forced to me to square too much and did not leave me with much room for error but still allowed me to play on extreme oil. Now with the V2 tag team I can now place them a little lower in my arsenal which might work out for the best anyway. EBONITE U ARE THE BOMB!!!!!!!
Lefty210
Post by: Leftyhi-trak on December 27, 2002, 11:52:09 AM
Ball: 15.02lbs, 2.5"pin and 3.25 top weight.
Drill pattern: 4X4
House: Good wood, very heavy oil for 37' buffed to 39'
oil line: 7 to 7, OB down lane from 3 out.
Have had this ball for about a month. Have only been able to use at one house due to oil shortage in the others. I really like this ball out of the gate. It is the most readable ball I have ever thrown. With this drill for me what I put into the ball I get back. If I grab some hand it rolls up harder and if I top it its weak but you know it automatically. The first two weeks I had it in box finish, and had to chase the oil each game but did well enough to shoot 645,685 so I decided to add some of Doc's Magic elixir and a light coat of Black Magic. Well the monster just got better. It did alter my line somewhat but opens up the lane a little better and holds more of the energy so it hits even better. I have shot 686,718. I had bought this ball for the ABC tournament to play in singles and doubles and believe I have gotten even more than I asked for with this piece of equipment.
Rating: 2 out of 10, don't want any of you to buy one and see how good its is for control. LOL
Reality: Rating is 9 out of 10 as ball does everything I hoped for and has more control than I dreamed of. I might buy another and set it up longer and polish it for more inside angles.
Post by: ballard2 on December 29, 2002, 09:50:47 AM
Wow can't believe that I had not posted a review for
this ball yet!
I happen to be a huge fan of the V2 series,
so much so that there have been regional tourneys where
that would be all you would find in my arsenal!
I have three of the V2 particles. The best thing about
this ball is that, even though it is a particle, the weight
block gives you the same shape as the V2 solid...just a little
earlier breakpoint, definitely hits like a truck even when the
volume of oil is high.
I would say that if you are in the market for a strong particle ball,
you really could not go wrong with this choice
Matt Ballard
Ebonite PBA Regional staff
Post by: Stroke65 on January 02, 2003, 11:04:26 AM
I am a long-time fan of the "original" Vortex, wanted something a little stronger for when the backends were wet. The V-2 Partical was the answer!
This ball is a great companion to my "original" Vortex. Drilled to hook-up early with a small balance hole this ball seams to work great.
Post by: ken823 on January 06, 2003, 10:40:25 PM
since i'm no jason couch,more of a hacker (tweener).
Post by: Zack Pelton on January 30, 2003, 01:07:30 AM
Weight: 15.47lb (before drilling)
Topweight: 2.5 oz
Pin: 2-3"
Surface:Started with 220 grit and worked my way down to 600 grit and left it.
Drilled-Pin above the bridge with the cg kicked out about an inch
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I bought this ball to fill the oil part of my arsenal. The ball has one of the most aggressive shells/core combination I have ever thrown(the only one I can think that tops it is the V2 Strong). I can keep under the ball and get some good length and strong recovery from this ball. Mainly I don't run into to many heavy oil shots, but when I do this ball is the ball to go to. I must do cup my wrist and give it some grip pressure, it only allows me to play up the boards but what ever scores. Eat your Wheates.
This ball tends to flare a little too much for most sports shots but I manage when there is some oil out side. I tend not to have the greatest luck playing up the boards but when I move to the 3rd or 4th arrow it tends to hold really well on the outside ten boards allowing me to through a flush strike. This ball really elminates the out of bounce (you still have to through quailty shots).
Takes the out of bounce out of effect.
Tends to over react after a 1/2 dozen shots becuase the head oil is soaked up.
Post by: BowlersAidProShop-Randy on January 31, 2003, 12:35:08 AM
2 and 1/2 Mass Bias in the track
Small weight hole in my PAP
Box Finish
I'm not one that talks about scores but the first night with this ball I throw 300 the first game and end up shooting 793. I am extremely pleased with the breakpoint motion of this ball. It reads the midlane VERY well and goes to the pocket strong. I was afraid that this ball would be too much, and it is quite a bit of hook, but nowhere near burning up. It was the first dull particle ball I have been able to play inside with any luck.
Overall this ball is phenomenal, I will be drilling another one very shortly.
Definitely a great heavy oil ball for heavy handed players.
Post by: James Campbell on February 14, 2003, 09:52:55 PM
James Campbell
Ebonite South Region Staff Member
CCampCSC@aol.com
Post by: Garcia on February 17, 2003, 02:18:03 AM
Sanded the coverstock to a smoother 1000grt wet sand.
For those rare occasions when the sanded V2 wasnt rolling early enough, out comes the Vortex 2 Particle. Again, Ebonite uses the great core of the V2, this time in a stronger particle cover. Dont expect a booming backend, this one revs early, revs hard, and ARCS to the pocket. The carry is outstanding, given theres alot of front oil to keep it going.
If your a V2 fan, get this one to compliment your arsenal. Polishing this ball will give you a similar look to a shiny V2 but with an even smoother breakpoint. Very strong, very consistant, very good addition.
Xeno Garcia
Ebonite Regional Staff
Sythlord79@aol.com
Post by: Ray Edwards on February 21, 2003, 01:09:14 PM
Second ball attempt was to drill out the pin on my axis. The cg was about 1" in line with my center of grip. Large extra hole back to zero drilling out the pin. This did it! No more snap, but wait... no reaction whatsoever. A trip to the ball spinner and a little Particle Polish was just enough to tame those unruly backends. That's better, a little early roll but still skidding and a little backend but not too much.
Oh, and I have a third drilled pretty standard 5x4 pin over middle finger, extra hole at 6" back to zero and a little shine which works pretty well on 99% of normal conditions.
Moral of the story is that it is versatile and in my opinion makes it a very valuable ball.
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** Ray Edwards **
Ebonite Regional Staff
edwards9@optonline.net
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Post by: SDJrCranKer on August 27, 2003, 05:36:46 AM
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Post by: Robert Poeschl on September 04, 2003, 01:34:05 PM
Got this ball about 3 mounths now with enough time bowling to notice any partical death, none. By this time I was starting to notice a difference with my swamp monster. I'm a high rev/speed player who likes controll on oil. And this ball works great. Not to heavy of a roller; kind of flippy with a smooth break point, on most oily conditions. It turns into a heavy arc on the sport shots. Perfect
Post by: jlmcker7 on September 27, 2003, 08:35:03 PM
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Post by: Monster Stitch on November 05, 2003, 07:52:47 PM
4 oz top weight. I drilled it pin over the ring finger with the cg kicked out and balance hole 6 inches over. This would be like a high RG drilling on the sheet. The ball has a lot of length and a sharp recovery. The shots i have used it on is a 35 feet christmas tree with strip backends, track area, deep inside like the nationals and etc. It's good when the lanes are hooking or has carry down. Depending on how much axis tilt you have you can manipulate your shot. The ball hits and keeps the pins low. I have this ball polished with Storm Xtra Shine. Great for inside and outside shots. Very versatile coverstock.
Post by: jimwitt on November 14, 2003, 03:51:33 AM
Post by: Rock77 on December 29, 2003, 10:56:54 PM
I wanted to try an Ebonite ball and particularly something from the V2 line, as I have heard rave reviews about all of the balls. In any case, for a heavy oiler, this ball moves. My house is a typical house shot. Oiled heavy from 5 to 5, dry outside. Oiled to 28' buffed out to 40'. Clean backends. This ball holds a nice continuous motion to the pocket and even starts to rev in the oil. Once it hits the dry, it moves. Not sharply, but very evenly and covers alot of boards. I have also been able to use this ball on med heads with carrydown and it performed excellent on that too. I usually play straight up 10 with this ball but if there is room to swing, this ball WILL recover. I am very pleased with this ball and it has become my go to ball. It is very smooth and consistent while making its move and it has plenty of POP at the pins to send messengers everywhere.
All in all, great ball for the heavy stuff. I underestimated this ball and am extremely happy with it. 10 out of 10.
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"I am the most consistent bowler in my house....
I consistently SUCK!!"
Post by: Monster Stitch on December 21, 2005, 02:51:26 PM
15.30lbs
3 inch pin
3oz top
Layout:
5 x 3
Pin under Bridge
Cg kicked out 2 inches
X-hole 6 inches diagnol from my center of span.
I really like this ball. I had one when i was throwing 16. It still hits like a mad truck. On a THS this ball rocks. The V2 rolls early and arcs with a continuous backend motion. The strongest carry i see from this ball is playing down and in. With this particular layout this ball shines on the ABC NATIONAL SHOT. I can't wait to take it to Corpus Christi in 2006. I was very fortunate to get one of these balls even though they are discontinued.
Post by: Mr Old School on March 30, 2006, 08:26:43 AM
15.3lbs
1 & 3/4" pin
drilled pin under ring 4x3
This was a replacement ball for when my dynasty busted open! I first used it for my 10 pin spares. The hook in the ball was non-exsisted. But after I bought the new V2 sanded I thought I would give it another try
. The week before I shot 725, with the sanded, with the lanes in medium conditions, I knew that they wouldn't be the same! So standing at 20 rolling over 10 I found the shot
rolling game of 220,265,191 for an 676 series. I can't swing this ball outside for the weak turn down the lanes it get, but for going old school up the boards this ball shines. I would like to get another v2 particle with a longer pin just to see if could turn the corner on missed shots to the outsides
I'm thinking that I'm going to apply to work for ebonite! Yeah that's the ticket!--------------------
Mr. Old SchoolIf you can't swing it, Your probally throwing brunswick!
Post by: Timdog on May 07, 2009, 06:16:35 PM
Post by: Mr Old School on June 17, 2009, 05:07:16 AM
. I personally haven't rolled that good in a long time! I thinking about staying with the ebonite line until they fall apart!--------------------
Mr. Old SchoolIf you can''t swing it, Your probally throwing brunswick!