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Vortex II
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
The specifications of the Vortex II are: Factory Finish: 1,200 grit factory sanded Trimax reactive resin; Color: Black and Blue; Core Shape: Low RG version of Nitro R2; RG Rating (actual): 2.45 (16 lb.), 2.45 (15 lb.), 2.44 (14 lb.); Differential (actual): .046 (16 lb.) .051 (15 lb.) .061 (14 lb.); Length: scale 1 to 10 (early to late) with factory finish: 3.0; Backend: scale 1 to 10 (least to most): 10.6; Overall Hook: scale 1 to 23 (least to most) dull/shiny: 22.4 dull/13.5 shiny; Hook Style: early rev with strong, controlled backend.


 

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Re: Vortex II
« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2001, 10:35:11 AM »
A great ball from Ebonite.  I think this is better than the Matrix.

I drilled it with a positive vertical shift.  CG 1/2" out with the pin under my ring finger.  I can play all of the oil with this ball.  I left it witha 600 grit dull finish.  It gets through the heads cleanly, even scuffed, rolls up and moves.  It doesn't quit in the backend and consistently keeps the pins low.  I rarely leave a 10-pin when playing 5th arrow or further in with this ball.  How nice is that?!?

I need to keep a few new ones in my basement.

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Re: Vortex II
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2001, 12:33:24 PM »
2nd review,

Got this ball from drillwizard and thru it the way he had it slight thumb leverage with a 3 3/8 pin.  I left the thumb spot and moved the fingers a tad to get this ball to 4 by 3 1/2.  CG now on the midline.

This ball is still heavy rolling even after my proshop guy polished without me asking.  Ball revs very early and keeps on tickin'.  My impression so far on the summer patterns I've tried is a lot like Bowler's Journal review that the lane needs to be 8 feet shorter!  I'm going to save for a long pattern on synthetic before I shine the surface.

In contrast to my Pantera which I think is a helluva ball, the Pantera seems to be more sensitive to the dry and the oil.  Skids more in oil and jumps more off of dry.  This ball just keeps on arching and seems due to the trimax to have a little more traction in oil and a little less jump off dry.

However, this ball covers some serious boards.  As the marketing material says
"if the ball seems to shoot off your hand, this is the ball for you" is true.

This is to be used on long heavy patterns where you need big continuous backend.

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Eddie Williams

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Re: Vortex II
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2001, 07:29:40 PM »
Lets just start by saying that this is easily one of the best balls that have come out in the last 5 years. Extremely versatile plays well in oil,polish it and it can handle a medium condition very well. I have drilled three of these and the most recent drilling was pin 6 inches from my axis with the cg 4 inches from the axis with a small hole below my axis point. I drilled it this way because I tend to bowl on flat conditions and I would like to smooth this ball out with out polishing it. The results were great I got early roll with a nice strong controlling backend reaction. I think you can drill this ball in your favorite layout and enjoy!
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Re: Vortex II
« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2001, 07:46:20 PM »
The Vortex 2 is a versatile resin ball with power, it has been a dominate ball in the PBA and on pro shop displays for well over a year. As for myself I have used Vortex 2's with 8 layouts. My positive axis point (PAP) is 5 1/4 by 3/8 up. Layouts I have used for heavy oil are pins below finger level at 5 and 3.5 inches with the cg kicked out and low holes 3 inches below my PAP on both. These layouts in a Vortex 2 have helped overcome many situations where other balls would skid too far before reacting in the midlane area, including many particle balls. For situations that require me to play deeper inside angles but still have a resin ball that gets into an earlier roll I have used pin high layouts with cg's kicked out and stacked pin high label drillings with pin 5-6 inches from PAP. These layouts works well for my medium hook style on medium oiled lanes and on hooking track shots from deeper inside on both wood and synthetic lanes. The coverstock is easy to adjust and with a shiny surface preparation allows me to have more prolonged use out of one layout from inside angles. The Vortex 2 isnt the ball with the most angular hooking motion but it is VERY predictable in the midlane. The Vortex 2's very low Rg combined with the Trimax coverstock spends its energy, and for that reason can be seen as rolling/hooking out, similar in motion to the Danger Zone performance several years ago, but earlier and with a versatile coverstock. This rolling nature is the Vortex 2's strength the reason why it is a consistent benchmark. As for others I have noticed that the Vortex 2 works very well for people with faster ball speed and or weaker roll/rotation. This style of bowler has trouble on oily lanes--where their ball will skid in the oil and recover too late down the lane. Overall the Vortex 2 can be a solution in many situations, as long as the lane has a decent amount of oil this ball almost always has a chance to perform. The Vortex 2 has been the best resin ball on the market for the past 18+ months and highly recommend this ball due to its performance and value.


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Re: Vortex II
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2002, 08:57:55 PM »

I can't believe that I had not posted a review on
what is probably our most popular ball, the vortex II.
I used the medium rg - strong drilling(#5) with this ball
and just left it in box condition. Bowled on the fresh china
with this and just as you would expect with the VORTEX II,
it revved up early and often, very strong continuation through
the pins. If you are looking for a strong non-particle ball I
don't think you can go wrong with this one.
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Re: Vortex II
« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2002, 10:00:26 AM »
I received the Vortext II and had it drilled from a reputable bowler in St. Paul.  My first game I was able to adapt well to the ball.  I had not found the strike ball but I was able pick up 8 of 10 spares.  A good game for a guy who's average is only 144.  I bowled 1 more game and bowled my average.  I used to bowl with an Ebonite Stinger that had little to No hook on it. The Vortex II was very predictable.  I was impressed with it's hook when I went to the outside and it was always tame towards the middle of the lane.  

3 days later I bowled in my league, and did I bowl a great series.  My average series is around 430 and I bowled a 490 which is pretty good.  

Now to my second series in League.  I pull the ball out for a few practice toss's. Low and behold there is a hairline fracture around the circumfurance of the ball.  So the ball lasted 5 games.  Luckily the website said they would take it back and exchange for a new one.  Now I have to deal with shipping and re drilling.  


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Re: Vortex II
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2002, 11:44:35 AM »
How much can be said of such a great ball.  The over all hook is great and it finishes strong on the backend of the lane.  This ball is superb on heavy oil or on the sport condition.  I have mine drilled with stacked leverage and the ball absolutely rips the lanes apart.  There is only one down side to this ball and that is that the more you use it the less and less it hooks.  This may be true for most balls but this one wears out at an unusual rate.  I have had 2 of them and i would recommend the ball to anyone looking to achieve a greater amount of hook for their game.  Probably one of the best balls on the market today.

Jace Peterson

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Re: Vortex II
« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2002, 11:17:08 AM »
I cannot believe I forgot to post a review on this ball. I have had 8 of these balls since their introduction. I have layed them out anywhere from axis leverage to 5 3/4 inch pin above the finger. I have bowled 300 games with 4 of the 8 balls. Obviously, this is my main stay in competition. Sanded this ball rolls almost as early as a particle ball and polished with 5 3/4 inch pin this ball will push a long way and still recover. Let's just say that this is the most versatile ball I have ever thrown. I wouldn't be without it!

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Re: Vortex II
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2002, 11:10:35 AM »
This is my first Ebonite ball since I tried the old blue Omega about 8 years ago.  I was looking for something to give me some carry when the oil goes down the lane and my storm stuff goes too long.  This particular core and shell seemed to be a good candidate for experimentation.  My favorite layout is usually a 4x4 or 4x3 with weight holes on or a couple inches below the axis.  I was going to go 4x2 with a hole on the axis, but at the last minute decided to use the recommended arc drilling from Ebonite.  I put the pin at 1 3/4 from my pap and kicked the cg about 1 inch straight over from the center of grip.  Result was 1 3/4 x 3 1/2 with a hole on the axis.  I left the shell in box condition which appears to be about 800 matte.  My first effort was on Anvilane with a long heavy crown around 10 board.  I immediately got a very strong reaction comparable to my ER.  Over a couple of games I noticed  that it pushed threw the heads cleaner than I expected, and had no quit when it turned the corner.  However, it was a little jerky at the break point and tended to over under when I got it wide or played a little more in the oil.  Carry was spotty, with one good string of 6 where I kept many of the shots very loose in the pocket.  Overall impression was that it was strong, but not as smooth as I expected.  My second effort was on a much flatter WIBC 37 foot pattern.  There was still a decent crown, but the back ends play much stronger initially with noticeable carrydown setting in quickly, and a definite ob around 6 board.  On this condition the ball rolled much smoother and clearly had the early angular turn I was looking for.  It reminded me a little of my Brunswick stuff. I had to be careful of skate out because the heads were really juiced, but I was able to square up and go down the boards without getting the over reaction I had noticed on the more walled condition.  Carry was excellent for the first game right up 10.  However when the carrydown came I started getting the same flat 10's that had been giving me trouble in this house with my Storm equipment.  I tried looking longer, looking shorter, and cupping up a little bit more with my wrist to no avail.  Finally, I settled on looking moderatly short with my normal release, but consciously cut my ball speed by about 1-2 mph from 17+ down to the 15 range.  Suddenly I had a little bit of swing at 12 and finished the 4th game off the sheet from the 5th.  I carried at least 2 weak 10's that would have had no chance with a touch more ball speed.  

Overally impression, a good low rg ball that revs up and has a nice strong shell out of the box.  If the shell holds up reasonably well this will be way up at the strong end of my reactives.  Even if the shell goes a little it should be a good control ball where I have some back end.  Very similar roll pattern to my Tour Power, but much stronger shell in box condition.

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Re: Vortex II
« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2002, 04:30:39 PM »
Oh dear
Well i bought this ball with high hopes all my mates said it will be the best ball out. I got rid of it after 3 weeks and a grand total of 33 games! It goes longer than a London marathon runner and has less backend than a supermodal. Not only that if you do manage to get anywhere near the pocket you will find that the 10 pin and the 8 pin and the 7 pin and the 9 pin and the 7 and 10 pin etc all stay up, this ball is like a pair of large smelly pants!!
Overall rating: 2/10 (i think only a pineapple can get 1, this ball is very close though)

Michael Gaither

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Re: Vortex II
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2002, 02:04:16 PM »
Awsome,this is a must have,it is one of the best balls i have ever thrown.
The vortex 2 just sees the lane all the way down,helps you stay in control
of the breakpoint and still has a strong backend.I like this ball all the
way from oily to semi dry conditions.Again,a must have.I have never talked
to anybody that didn't at least like it a lot.Get one or two of them you
won't be sorry.                                                                          


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Re: Vortex II
« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2002, 06:11:56 AM »
wow this ball is amazing.this ball gets the job done everytime.stays long and snaps in.i'v had several 260 games with this ball.i would like to get the new trimaxll pearl to go along with it.I BOWL ON A SPORT LANE CONDITION,AND I CAN THROW THIS BALL THE SAME WAY EVERYTIME ON HEAVEY OR MEDUIM OIL BUT ON DRY I HAVE TO REACH FOR MY MATRIX TRIMAX.GREAT BALL.

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Re: Vortex II
« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2002, 08:14:01 PM »
Ebonite Vortex 2-

Ball info- Weight 16#, CG to Pin is 3 1/2" Factory finish.

Drilling- Pin is 4" from  axis point slightly right & above the ring finger, CG
is about 1/2" below and a 1 5/8" right of the center of the grip. Looks similar
to Ebonites vortex series drilling instructions drilling #2 12:00 leverage.

Lane type used on was Brunswick ProAnvil Lanes, Total length of oil pattern 40ft.

Wow is the first thing to say! This is a great reactive ball. Had it drilled just
a few hours before my mens league. Just after they oiled the lanes I got to throw
two practice games with it.The first game just to check the fit and find the best
line. The second game for score and score it did 276. Standing on thirty throwing
the ball out to about seven, it was blasting the pocket. During league it was
about the same finishing the night with a 696 (A split cost me a 300game in
league).

Best of all it was carrying the corners good. Leak it out and it recovered great.
Had to make sure not to pull it, as it would hold going down the center and not
cross brooklyn side and drive right in to the head pin.

The ball made it all three games and the lanes just seemed to get more open for
me as the night went on. The V2 was very consistent and I felt I had great
control in every shot. It would continue nicely through the pins.

Very good ball and low cost too.
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Re: Vortex II
« Reply #29 on: May 04, 2002, 07:48:49 AM »
Had to post another review for this ball.If you need a ball for really dry lanes,this is a great one.I know most people use this ball for oil but,this ball really shined up will get down the lane with the best of them.The last 2 pba regionals I bowled in ended up 6th or 7th arrow.I felt like I had the nutt,because I could get it down the lane without much trouble when most people were struggling.Don`t forget about this extremely versitile ball.

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Re: Vortex II
« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2002, 09:37:41 AM »
This has got to be the best ball I have ever owned. I usually go for the biggest hooking ball and drill it for max hook. My ball driller talked me into ' a predictable, control ball' He drilled it as Denny Torgerson suggested 35 degree 4 1/2" layout. I have had several 700's  and at least 6 games with 11 strikes. I am bowling a SPORT league and a scratch league now. Only problem is I am averaging 240 in the scratch league and 175 in the sport league. Anybody know the secret to sport conditions?