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Vortex II
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
The specifications of the Vortex II are: Factory Finish: 1,200 grit factory sanded Trimax reactive resin; Color: Black and Blue; Core Shape: Low RG version of Nitro R2; RG Rating (actual): 2.45 (16 lb.), 2.45 (15 lb.), 2.44 (14 lb.); Differential (actual): .046 (16 lb.) .051 (15 lb.) .061 (14 lb.); Length: scale 1 to 10 (early to late) with factory finish: 3.0; Backend: scale 1 to 10 (least to most): 10.6; Overall Hook: scale 1 to 23 (least to most) dull/shiny: 22.4 dull/13.5 shiny; Hook Style: early rev with strong, controlled backend.


 

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Re: Vortex II
« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2002, 09:46:23 AM »
Just wanted to add my two bits on a great bowling ball...tho  I guess it should be taken with fair warning. I hadn't bowled in years and a friend got me re-addicted to the game (as if golf wasn't bad enough) and after realising that so much had changed, I started to research balls...and decide that the vortex II looked pretty good. Well. it's better than pretty good, and I wish I could afford a bunch of them just to play around with the drillings and surfaces.
I have no idea what my average is, since I am waiting for the fall to join a league. I have had the opportunity to visit a whole bunch of houses between Pittsburgh and Cleveland, and I typically will throw around 15-20 games a week. I had tried a few other balls from friends, but when I got this I knew it was a keeper. The two hundred games just keep coming...
I guess you could say I am somewhere between a stroker and tweener, about 14-15mph, and I throw a full roller, tho I like to play around with the hand action and tinker with speed too much Now, the drilling...... I actually had two vortex balls, yes the first one hairlined, and it was drilled for the full roller recommendation from ebonite. I later found that the pin and cg were almost on top of one another, and in this conditon, the ball would really roll out on dry lanes..so much that it was like trying to play a bank shot .When the ball cracked after about a month, I thought, well, this might be a blessing, but despite my repeated instructions to the lane owner in my hometown, he re-drilled it full roller because he noticed the pin and cg were spaced a little differently, and he thought it would be better. At first I was but I figured it would be best to learn with a difficult ball, and this one actually rolls out a little less. What I found tho was that it is a great ball to throw from the far right, straight down ten , or even inside out to five depending on the conditons. I kept box finish so far, and I find this ball to be very controllable and predictable, it hits brutally, and when you find the line and miss a little, it gives you some really fun junk strikes. I just wish could buy a couple more, I'm dying to see what some drillings and grits will do..

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Re: Vortex II
« Reply #32 on: May 24, 2002, 11:54:58 AM »
i got this ball from Doug Kent and changed the span to fit me it is drilled leverage axis and in the original box condition was uncontrollable i hit it with 2 passes ofr ebonite particle polish, and this is without a doubt the best tough lane condition ball i have ever thrown it sets up early and turns toward the pocket with a vengance and really carries well.  this has become a big favorite on longer and flatter patterns at some tournaments.  i think every competitive bowler should have at least one and i am considering playing with drill patterns on this ball.

a solid 9.5 on a scale of 1-10

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Re: Vortex II
« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2002, 02:36:55 PM »
Bought this one used on eBay, moved the thumb. Drill is label leverage, axis weighted.

This ball, with this drill, requires oil. Too little and it is way too agressive. But, with the right adjustments, it is THE ball to own! Coverstock is easy to adjust up or down, box finish is just fine for most folks. Hits like a truck and usually clears the deck.

Definately worth using.
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Re: Vortex II
« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2002, 03:23:19 PM »
This ball performs great on senthetic lanes.  

It's my number one goto ball

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Re: Vortex II
« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2002, 01:37:20 PM »
This is only my second Ebonite purchase (the Formula I being the other), but I have a feeling this won't be my last.  Had it drilled stacked leverage, great arc, and like they say, no surprises.  The ball hits very hard, and is a nice compliment to my Wicked, as the Vortex starts a little sooner, and has a smoother breakpoint with just as much carry.  I think the Pearl would be a nice ball to go to when they dry up a bit, but I probably won't get that one for a month or so.  The Vortex II is best suited for medium to heavy oiled lanes, maybe not enough ball for a flood, but close.  Great job Ebonite!

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Re: Vortex II
« Reply #36 on: November 18, 2002, 04:21:42 PM »
I have three of these with different drills/surface preps, and this is the most versatile ball ever made.  Use you favorite layout, get the surface the way you want, and go.  You definitely need some oil for these to work well because the low RG core revs quickly giving you a strong midlane read.  The particle and pearl versions are just as good.
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Re: Vortex II
« Reply #37 on: December 26, 2002, 11:15:04 AM »
Well what can I say? All I can say is WOW!!!! This ball is an animal.
I have had the ball for a little over a month now and I have not been
able to throw that often but I can see the potential monster that is going
to be. Well I got mine drilled 3 1/2 x 3 with the mass bias 2" out. All
I can say is WATCH OUT OIL. I was able to throw the ball once when I was in
York bowling on the sports shot. It was the short pattern but 8 and out were oiled to 42 feet. While the other lefties were playing  really direct around
5-7, I was able to move as deep as 28 and swing as wide as 3 without the ball flinching a bit. I drove through the oil as if I was on a normal "block" pattern. All I can say is if you are looking for a good ball for heavy oil this is your ball. THUMBS UP to EBONITE. I am definitely going to crossover


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Re: Vortex II
« Reply #38 on: January 04, 2003, 01:50:50 PM »
The Vortex II Sanded is a versatile ball as advertised, but for me its strengths are length and recovery.  

My Vortex II is drilled approximately 5x5, wet sanded to 1500 and polished with Finesse-it II.  It is my first ball out of the bag at almost every house (except my local house) since it plays well on many inside angles.  My V2 clears the heads extremely well and saves up plenty of energy for the back end.  It also reads the midlanes just enough to give very good control.  Although it has a strong skid/flip look most of the time, it is also pretty easy to control.

Zack Pelton

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Re: Vortex II
« Reply #39 on: January 30, 2003, 01:06:34 AM »
Ebonite: Vortex 2 Sanded
Pin: 3-4"
Top Weight: 2.34
Weight: 15.52
Surface: I started at 220 and took it down to 1000 and left it.
Drill: Pin up and over from the ring finger, cg under the middle finger

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Overall

First of all I have put so many games under this ball I put it through the Ebonite Hook Agian. That stuff works nice on all the balls I have seen go out of the proshop. I bought this ball to replace my El Nino X-It, and becuase I have heard everyone raid about how good the ball is I had to have one. I set this ball to roll early and boy it does. I can cup the wrist and get an earlier roll with extream jerk on the backend (I would have figuared it would have smoothened out on the backend) I can get some length on it but there has to be allot of head oil and I must up my speed quiet abit.

Sportshot

This ball also like my Vortex 2 Particle opens up the lane on a sport shot, but not as much as the Particle. Like the particle it does hook a ton, but I have had more seccess playing up the boards rather than 3rd or 4th arrow just becuase the entry of angle less sharpe. It always seems either on a house shot or a sport shot, if nothing is working this ball does (when I am not being a retard through the ball bad).

Pro's

Tends to be my go to ball when nothing is working (got enough seperation from my other ball is my arsenal)

Con's

Tends to hit a lite spot of oil and turns within the first 20ft
Not a ball easly pushed through the lane.
Zack Pelton
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Re: Vortex II
« Reply #40 on: February 05, 2003, 03:32:04 AM »
I've drilled 12 of these over two years.
All I can say is WOW! just WOW!

If you dont have one, what are u waiting for?!

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Re: Vortex II
« Reply #41 on: February 16, 2003, 01:21:10 AM »
Of all the balls i have own this one has been the most frustrating.

A basic label drill that with my pap came to a 4 X 5 1/2.  I took the ball to 600 and polished it a little.  

This ball is so versatile.  I can get this ball to crush the pocket with any speed, any amount of hand, standing just about anywhere.  The ball glides then snaps.  But i cannot get the ball to carry no matter what i do.  28 shots flush in a series and only shot 620.  I left all sorts of pins, 10, 7, 9, 7-10, 4-9, and a lot of other wild and crazy stuff to name a few.

I am going to continue to work with the ball because it really fits my game and i like its moves.  Maybe taking some side and finger weight out and a surface change will get the ball into a roll a little earlier.

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Re: Vortex II
« Reply #42 on: February 26, 2003, 12:12:50 AM »
Strike! Strike! Strike!
Crunch! Crunch! Crunch!
Strike! Strike! Strike!

Still striking, striking in my backswing. Striking on my way to the bowl. Striking even while I sit here and type. Sanded V2, polished V2, w/X-hole, w/o X-hole, doesnt matter.

Whack! Whack! Whack!

Need more V2's! Three years strong, can you name another ball thats been out for more than 3 years?! No, No chance! Best ball ever! Ebonite please keep the V2!

BP, Can you hear me?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!!?!?!?!

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Re: Vortex II
« Reply #43 on: February 28, 2003, 10:46:53 PM »
By far the greatest ball ever made. Not much else needs to be said. The most versatile ball, the easy ball to make surface adjustments on, the best ball to use different layouts on, this ball is my crutch. Not a week goes by that i dont have at least 2 V2s on my card. Keep the surface fresh and you will have success with this ball for a long time.

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Re: Vortex II
« Reply #44 on: March 14, 2003, 10:20:58 AM »
Un-freaking-believable!  Finally got one of these balls after hearing all the hype about it being the best ball ever made.  Revved this baby up, just plain box condition last night for the first time.  Pretty fresh league shot, synthetic lanes.  My ball has about a 3" pin and 3 oz. of top weight.  I'm not sure of the drilling...I asked my driller to "load it up".  Pin under ring finger, balance hole down and right (duh) of my thumb.  I'm a tweener, 215-220 average, about 16-17 mph, rev rate around 320 or so.  I recently got a Top Fuel drilled similarly.  I thought THAT ball was strong.  I'm about 4 boards left with my feet with the Vortex versus the TopFuel.  The Vortex makes its its turn about 5 feet sooner than the TopFuel, and wham....hits like it weighs about 30 lbs.  258-268-279-233 just practicing, getting the feel for this new ball.  Just nukes the pins.  Can't wait to try it in league and tournaments.  It should be a great 1-2 punch with the TopFuel.  Throw the Vortex, then go to the TopFuel when the Vortex is too much.  This ball appears to live up to the hype.
I realize I'm not adding any new revelations here.  Previous reviews speak volumes about what a quality ball this is.  The reason for the post is that I hope the Powers that Be over at Ebonite read.  I guess this beast has been out for almost 3 years now?  I hope Ebonite has no plans of discontinuing this ball!  PLEASE DON'T DO THAT!  For my next ball, I think I'll get another Vortex II.  After that, I'm thinking maybe a Vortex II.  Then...well, you get the idea.

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Re: Vortex II
« Reply #45 on: March 24, 2003, 12:34:31 PM »
After reading Jeff Carter's post all I would have to add to it is. Well okay nothing. He says it all.