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hatehvyoil

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adrenaline wipes
« on: December 23, 2011, 01:38:44 AM »

Just received a supply of adrenaline wipe from buddies. Watched the video on powerhouse site about them. According to video they don’t clean your ball but increase oil absorption. Sounds like if that’s the case, might have to do more cleaning and oil extraction service on ball than before. Anybody try them yet?

 

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John D Davis

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Re: adrenaline wipes
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2011, 12:03:52 PM »
Some of the things you guys have said has been great points and opinions, but I dont really agree with what you just said Curt...

 

If the ball is cleaned and the pores do become more open, then oil absorbtion rate becomes alot higher causing the ball to soak up if not twice as much as it did before using the product. Now of course Im no expert whatsoever in researching the bowling chemicals we use,etc but it seems to me that wouldnt "Aceton" basically do the same thing? It opens the pores of the bowling balls and hell it even works in about 3 seconds!

 

Now Im not justifying one way or the other, but Im just stating my thoughts so on. I only use Aceton on occasion just to maybe get the polish off a bowling ball without sanding, or maybe getting a spot of glue off etc. Does anyone even know the bad of using the Aceton? I have heard many times not to use it but I never heard the main reasons.

 

I myself am going to buy the product just to see if it does even half of what it says,etc. You know why??? Because I am a tournament bowler, and if it will give me a slight edge and maybe help me carry two shots more a game, why hell yeah Im down for it........ Thats why Ebonite products continue to be great etc. They may not last as long as some of the other companys, but for the first 20-30 games, they outperform the competition hands down. Thanks Charlest for your detailed description. John
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Balldoctor

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Re: adrenaline wipes
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2011, 12:37:18 PM »
Hats OFF to ALL.  A civilized discussion about Bowling.

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Rich Hanson

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Re: adrenaline wipes
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2011, 01:23:06 PM »
Curt and Ball Doctor are right on point. The Adrenaline Wipes help restore/improve the balls ability to absorb oil. Although this product will clean the surface of the ball, it's main purpose is to go deeper to clean the sub-surface. They are more effective on today's reactive resin covers than on older balls from the 90's. The reason being is that older balls had lower absorption rates than newer technology balls. By no means will Adrenaline take a ball that is designed to hook 10 boards and make it hook 15 boards. What it will do is allow newer balls to perform "like new" longer and restore some performance to older balls.


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charlest

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Re: adrenaline wipes
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2011, 02:08:59 PM »
- From your reply, I was wondering when is the proper time to use the Adrenaline wipes?
 To clean the ball after each set
OR,
more like Clean and Dull, to use it on balls, after every  3 - 5 sets,
depending on how much oil the ball sees and the condition of the shell??
 
 Thank you for replying!
 
Rich Hanson wrote on 12/29/2011 2:23 PM:
Curt and Ball Doctor are right on point. The Adrenaline Wipes help restore/improve the balls ability to absorb oil. Although this product will clean the surface of the ball, it's main purpose is to go deeper to clean the sub-surface. They are more effective on today's reactive resin covers than on older balls from the 90's. The reason being is that older balls had lower absorption rates than newer technology balls. By no means will Adrenaline take a ball that is designed to hook 10 boards and make it hook 15 boards. What it will do is allow newer balls to perform "like new" longer and restore some performance to older balls.




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ambi1

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Re: adrenaline wipes
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2011, 09:30:25 PM »
I have follow up thought, the "opening up of pores" ... Does this mean pores that have been clogged due to usage, or pores additionally opened up after production.  If its the first, then the concern of Charlest regarding the change in ball shape is moot as all that has been done is to bring the ball back.  If its the 2nd, then it might be advisable to use the wipes immediately before ever using the ball no?

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charlest

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Re: adrenaline wipes
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2011, 10:06:06 PM »
Rich replied in a private email:
"It is recommended to use Adrenaline every 3 to 6 games. That is what we recommended but it will really vary upon the amount of oil and the type of bowling ball."
 
charlest wrote on 12/29/2011 3:08 PM:
- From your reply, I was wondering when is the proper time to use the Adrenaline wipes?
 To clean the ball after each set
OR,
more like Clean and Dull, to use it on balls, after every  3 - 5 sets,
depending on how much oil the ball sees and the condition of the shell??
 
 Thank you for replying!
 
Rich Hanson wrote on 12/29/2011 2:23 PM:
Curt and Ball Doctor are right on point. The Adrenaline Wipes help restore/improve the balls ability to absorb oil. Although this product will clean the surface of the ball, it's main purpose is to go deeper to clean the sub-surface. They are more effective on today's reactive resin covers than on older balls from the 90's. The reason being is that older balls had lower absorption rates than newer technology balls. By no means will Adrenaline take a ball that is designed to hook 10 boards and make it hook 15 boards. What it will do is allow newer balls to perform "like new" longer and restore some performance to older balls.




"None are so blind as those who will not see."

 
 
Edited by charlest on 12/29/2011 at 3:12 PM


"None are so blind as those who will not see."

 
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J_Mac

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Re: adrenaline wipes
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2011, 10:35:14 PM »
Someone from my area said that these wipes remind him of graffiti remover.  They do make a graffiti remover product in a scrub form similar to these ball wipes...
 
Just something to ponder, its quite possible that there is no connection between these two products...
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JohnP

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Re: adrenaline wipes
« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2011, 10:33:29 AM »
"Now Im not justifying one way or the other, but Im just stating my thoughts so on. I only use Aceton on occasion just to maybe get the polish off a bowling ball without sanding, or maybe getting a spot of glue off etc. Does anyone even know the bad of using the Aceton? I have heard many times not to use it but I never heard the main reasons."

 

The important reason not to use acetone is that it's illegal by USBC rules for use at any time.  Why it's illegal goes back to the early 70's when Don McCune found that by soaking his plastic ball in a solvent (MEK was the main solvent used) the cover became softer and the ball hooked more.  This gave him an advantage on the tour, he won several tournaments using the "soaker".  Soon all the pro's were soaking their ball, resulting in the danger of fires and personal health issues.  Columbia developed a plastic ball with a softer core and the ABC stepped in and established a surface hardness spec that's still in place today.  At a later time they analyzed the affect of various substances on ball surface and made any that softened the covers when in contact for an extended time illegal.  Acetone fits into that category.  --  JohnP


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Balldoctor

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Re: adrenaline wipes
« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2011, 11:11:12 AM »
Great question. As I understand, solvents dissolve.

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John D Davis

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« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2011, 11:20:31 AM »
Thanks JohnP for that post... For the first 10 years of my bowling, of course I was a house hack like most not going anywhere,etc. Only bowling in that one house day in and day out so on. but the owner of that house always praised Aceton and for all those years I thought that it was a good thing to clean them with it. And I have always heard about the balls they used to call soaker balls that they had back in the day but I never one time heard what exactly the chemicals was they used in that process.

 

I also didnt know that using Aceton at any time was illegal etc. I appreciate that insite. I can remember years ago, league bowlers would full there custom bottles up with half Aceton and half Alcohol and even clean there balls with it during league... The funny thing is, usually the ones that were doing that were the ones struggling lol. John
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Balldoctor

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Re: adrenaline wipes
« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2011, 11:47:17 AM »
Another little known rule. During league you may use approved cleaners. You may also use the Lustre King or
other non apprassive cleaning machines  only if the machine is on the concourse and in full view.
You not permitted to go into the Pro Shop to use the machine or use the spinner to polish.


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Sunshine n Lollipops

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Re: adrenaline wipes
« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2011, 01:40:13 PM »
A good microfiber towel used between shots to get the oil off the ball is all that is needed.  You guys are just buying into marketing if you think you need to use a cleaner in between shots.  When the pros start doing that, maybe then I'll pay attention.  Right now, you don't see a single one of them do it.  Heck, you don't see that many use a towel anymore.  Maybe you would be better served worrying about how your delivering the ball instead of other things.  My .02   Carry on. 



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John D Davis

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Re: adrenaline wipes
« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2011, 04:52:22 PM »
Well at least we had a few good posts before "Sunshine" came on here and said something negative..........
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Sunshine n Lollipops

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Re: adrenaline wipes
« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2011, 07:52:57 PM »
John, I'm sorry if you think the truth is negative.  That's too bad.  Like I said, carry on worrying about whether every pore of your bowling ball is open and clean before each shot.  I'll worry more about my timing, hitting my mark, and keeping my hand in the correct position.  You know, what some of us call bowling.  
 



John D Davis wrote on 12/30/2011 5:52 PM:
Well at least we had a few good posts before "Sunshine" came on here and said something negative..........



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Balldoctor

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Re: adrenaline wipes
« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2012, 10:10:34 AM »
Good point about the microfiber towel by Ebonite. We have preached this since 2004. Yet another tool to keep your ball up to performance standards. Bill Calhoon did many Demo's in which he showed the power of the towel.
Gonna try out the  wipes in league tomorrow.

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