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Greg T

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All done with Ebo
« on: October 03, 2007, 03:28:46 PM »

 I have been with Ebo for many years and have just made the decision to drop them completely. Although they fit my game to a T I am sick and tired of buying thr to four of the same balls every year. 6 weeks is the max I can get. I now own two perfectly great looking TNVs that turned into twig or spare balls. Cant get them to hook more than 5 boards. Every Ebo I have had in the last 10 years has been the same and I just cannot justify spending this much money anymore.

 The reaction is fanatstic and the carry is excellent for the first 15 to 20 games. Then it's all over. I just pulled mine out tonight after a thorough soaking, cleaning, resurfacing using all the recommended techniques. Even used the powerhouse factory finish. End result.....targeting the 5 board all night and just barely carrying the rack. Anything closely resembling moving inside, even attempting a track shot would result in missing the headpin on the right.

  Don't bother giving me the lectures on the cleaning and upkeep cuz nobody takes better care of their equipment than I do. Period. Ebo is done, Hammer will be my next test.




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Re: All done with Ebo
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2007, 11:38:21 PM »
Might as well skip hammer, track, and columbia because if the covers aren't the same, they are da** close.
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Re: All done with Ebo
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2007, 01:15:12 PM »
I didn't have one ball die on me for the last 20 years..until I purchased a TNV. The ball was great for about 50 games and now it's dead.

I've tried everything to bring it back to life, but there's no pulse left in this ball.

It makes an awfully pretty boat anchor.

I have other Ebo's that are good and still going strong. My Turbo X is over 20 years old and still has a great reaction on the lanes. I also have a V2 sanded that still the sht on medium oil.

The NV cover is just crap..IMHO..

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Re: All done with Ebo
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2007, 01:24:23 PM »
Not to be picky, but NO ONE has a 20 year old Turbo X.
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Re: All done with Ebo
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2007, 01:24:47 PM »
Don't bother with Hammer then.  Same company!  Same coverstocks!

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Re: All done with Ebo
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2007, 01:37:00 PM »
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Not to be picky, but NO ONE has a 20 year old Turbo X.
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My bad...15 years old..but you get the point

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Re: All done with Ebo
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2007, 01:37:53 PM »
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Don't bother with Hammer then.  Same company!  Same coverstocks!


Ebo covers are different than Hammer. Not even the same formula.

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Re: All done with Ebo
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2007, 01:37:56 PM »
I also thought "how'd that lucky S.O.B. get that ball that early?!"
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Re: All done with Ebo
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2007, 01:41:01 PM »
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I also thought "how'd that lucky S.O.B. get that ball that early?!"
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I was there!! I was also there for the first urethane balls (angle) and the first polyster bleeders (yellow dot).

Part of the benefits of being a geezer..

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Re: All done with Ebo
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2007, 01:42:59 PM »
I missed the first bleeders, but was a young whipper-snapper for the rest; Angles, U-Dots, and Rhinos ahoy! (34)
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Re: All done with Ebo
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2007, 01:51:55 PM »
I agree about skipping Hammer.  I've seen it here, the Hammer covers may not be the same as the Ebonite covers but there's a strong family resemblance.  Oil absorbing covers like GB, Traxion, and Violent are going to be high maintenance, low lifespan covers.  As you said, great reaction while it lasts.

You want a ball that lasts, get a Lanemasters.  You don't want to spend a metric buttload of money on new stuff, get a Sure Strike.  Or a Sting and Buzz for a combo.

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Re: All done with Ebo
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2007, 02:00:02 PM »
I have a Columbia Resurgence with 50 or more games on it and it hits better now then when I first got it. I also clean it after each set with Powerhouse cleaner or Clean and Dull..

I also have an Ebonite Clash and Bash and have had zero problems with those 2 balls losing any of their bite on the lane..

I did have a TNV and it was a pain in the butt to keep clean but I never did noticed any loss of hitting power or hook with it..
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Re: All done with Ebo
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2007, 02:28:32 PM »
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If it produced at the same company, it uses the same chemicals and processes, does anyone really think that any company would shut down their lines and do a changeover to run balls for one of their sub brands.


They'd do that every time they switched from making Crossfires to TNVs anyway.  Doing it for their other brands is no different.  Or they have multiple production lines and can change when they need to.  It's not like they make 50 TNVs, 40 BWs, and 100 Maxims a day.  They make TNVs for a week, BWs for a week, Maxims for a week,... depending on what kind of supply and inventory is out there.

Better covers for the "subbrands"?  Maybe, maybe not.  It's all part of the corporate and marketing strategy.  And what does "better" mean anyway?

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Re: All done with Ebo
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2007, 02:32:00 PM »
I've noticed a little loss in reaction from my TNV after around 80 games or so but nothing that would entice me to make a boat anchor out of her.
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Re: All done with Ebo
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2007, 02:47:14 PM »
I had a TNV and it died after like 100 games and my friend had one same thing, but he put it away in his closet for the summer brought it back out and it out hooks all his other balls in his bag again. It was kind of weird. He has a shift and a bwp and it out hooks both those no problem. I don't know why it would do this. My other friend just brought his One out of his closet after a year of being in there and he said it is his strongest ball now after being dead. He has like 8 or 9 high performance balls too.