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Equipment Boards => Ebonite => Topic started by: RJA300 on December 29, 2016, 11:36:02 AM
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BALL SPECS
Pin Length: 2â€
Starting Top Weight: 3.5
Ball Weight: 15
DRILL PATTERN
3 3/8†pin with MB stacked. Weight hole on VAL below axis. Pin is beside the ring finger.
BOWLER STYLE: RH - Stroker – slightly speed dominant
Rev Rate: 280
Ball Speed: 17-18
PAP/Track: PAP: 4 11/16†and 7/8" up
SURFACE PREP
Box Finish
LANE CONDITION
House
COMMENTS
The GB12.7 cover finished at 500/1000 and polished with Powerhouse Factory Finish Polish provides me with a very versatile piece of equipment for medium oil lane conditions. Higher rev rates will also find this ball useful on longer patterns. The use of a strong drill helps me get the ball revving early while the polish helps it get through the fronts. It has a strong hockey stick motion off the break point that lets me play down and in comfortably or move in and send it out to the friction. Hitting power is strong from both angles. It may be a little too strong off the spot on fresh sport shots, but would be an excellent choice once the lanes transition and you have to move left.
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ONE drilling, used on ONE oil pattern, with ZERO surface modifications, with ZERO comparisons will NEVER, EVER constitute a true ball review.
Admit it. You posted this to meet your "staff obligation", not to offer any true value judgement on this ball for fellow bowlers.
How sad.
Not sure why I bother. Not like anyone reads this chaff any more.
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WOW chill chucky i have 2 missions and have changed the surface on one of them, and pretty much everything the RJA300 stated is true!! depending of course on your style.
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WOW chill chucky i have 2 missions and have changed the surface on one of them, and pretty much everything the RJA300 stated is true!! depending of course on your style.
But he didn't say it or show it.
As I said, this is not a ball review, despite your approval of him or the ball. A true ball review takes work, lots of hard work. It is not trivial, like this post.
FYI I was not criticizing the ball; I know the ball works great - I have one. Read what I wrote: I am criticizing this post which poses a ball review.
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You could copy and paste what is written in several "reviews" and most would never notice.
I really like mine but it has 3-4 games at best and is still at box finish. I'm leaving it at box finish for a reason, I do not have anything else with a polished finish. I typically sand everything.
At box finish I really like the ball reaction. Handles oil a lot better then expected and really is strong off the spot down lane. Just hadn't had the conditions to use this ball without trying to force something just to say I used it.
Eventually though
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ONE drilling, used on ONE oil pattern, with ZERO surface modifications, with ZERO comparisons will NEVER, EVER constitute a true ball review.
Admit it. You posted this to meet your "staff obligation", not to offer any true value judgement on this ball for fellow bowlers.
How sad.
Not sure why I bother. Not like anyone reads this chaff any more.
With responses like this can you blame anyone for not reading the chaff
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ONE drilling, used on ONE oil pattern, with ZERO surface modifications, with ZERO comparisons will NEVER, EVER constitute a true ball review.
Admit it. You posted this to meet your "staff obligation", not to offer any true value judgement on this ball for fellow bowlers.
How sad.
Not sure why I bother. Not like anyone reads this chaff any more.
With responses like this can you blame anyone for not reading the chaff
Are you saying I am wrong for admonishing this poster for entering this useless garbage?
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I have to agree with Jeff on this one.... We're all getting tired of useless semi-staff reviews. Count me in that number for certain.
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ONE drilling, used on ONE oil pattern, with ZERO surface modifications, with ZERO comparisons will NEVER, EVER constitute a true ball review.
Admit it. You posted this to meet your "staff obligation", not to offer any true value judgement on this ball for fellow bowlers.
How sad.
Not sure why I bother. Not like anyone reads this chaff any more.
With responses like this can you blame anyone for not reading the chaff
Are you saying I am wrong for admonishing this poster for entering this useless garbage?
Are you some type of authority on the website? An administrator? Never said your assessment was wrong.
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ONE drilling, used on ONE oil pattern, with ZERO surface modifications, with ZERO comparisons will NEVER, EVER constitute a true ball review.
Admit it. You posted this to meet your "staff obligation", not to offer any true value judgement on this ball for fellow bowlers.
How sad.
Not sure why I bother. Not like anyone reads this chaff any more.
With responses like this can you blame anyone for not reading the chaff
Are you saying I am wrong for admonishing this poster for entering this useless garbage?
Are you some type of authority on the website? An administrator? Never said your assessment was wrong.
Nope. But I Know what is wrong. I have published full reviews before; I stopped because it is WORK and I don't get paid by anyone - I have to pay for my own balls and drilling.
Many here have posted criticisms of pseudo ball reviews like this one. I've let them ride before but now, even I am sick of them. Why criticize me alone for posting my opinion of very bad ball reviews done for the purpose of meeting some manufacturer's contractual terms and not to help fellow bowlers?
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Well said jeff..... I get better ideas on balls that are used on various patterns by VARIOUS type's of bowlers'.
It's refreshing when you find true honest reviews with all the pro's/cons of said balls on different patterns.
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Naive bowlers' will never comprehend that THS HIDES a balls true ability.
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Charlest's opinion is correct.
The review was pretty weak and did not really provide much if any help. I for one could not make a purchasing decision on this ball to benefit my game based on the review presented.
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A lot of nostalgia surrounds the Mission Unknown release by the folks at Ebonite, and for good reason. A throwback to yester-year always comes with a sense of curiosity and they are re-released for a reason… THEY WERE GOOD! Asymmetric balls are often known to simply roll with little clearance in the front part of the lane; the Mission Unknown breaks that mold.
When asked about my thoughts on this ball, I always start with the phrase, “it is the cleanest, flippiest, asymmetric solid that I’ve ever thrown”. For me, this ball, drilled pin-up, at box finish clears the front and responds very violently in the back part of the lane. For control, I prefer to keep this one at 2000 abralon which enhances the overall hook potential of the piece. I can see this ball being a perfect fit for speed dominant or rev challenged players that want a big oil ball that provides length and angularity.
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I don't come on the Ebonite Board much but it strikes me that every company has its legend that can at best be emulated, but attempts to better inevitably fail. Storm had the Virtual Gravity. Going back a bit further Brunswick had the Vapor Zone, and it seems to me for Ebonite it is the original Mission. I know the Mission was far and away the best Ebonite ball for my game that I have ever owned.
Brunswick probably had the best solution. They changed the color and renamed the cover, tweaked the core, and called it a Pearl Fury instead of a Vapor Zone. Only really good ball they made for 3 years after the Furys replaced the Zones.
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ONE drilling, used on ONE oil pattern, with ZERO surface modifications, with ZERO comparisons will NEVER, EVER constitute a true ball review.
Admit it. You posted this to meet your "staff obligation", not to offer any true value judgement on this ball for fellow bowlers.
How sad.
Not sure why I bother. Not like anyone reads this chaff any more.
It is part of my obligation to Ebonite to post ball reviews. Those of us on the regional/amateur staff get one ball, in addition not all of us work in pro shops or full time in the bowling business, so, it's not necessarily feasible to review a ball using multiple drill patterns and/or surfaces. I certainly won't alter a ball that I like and find useful just for a ball review. I try to explain how they work for me as best as I can based on my experience with the ball and that of others I see throw it.
RJ Alman
Ebonite Regional Staff
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I don't know of to many bowlers who could afford to buy 2 or 3 balls just to do ball reviews with several different layouts and or finishes. The thing that I don't like is videos of balls and all they show are the strikes they make, now you know perfectly well that they surely don't strike with every ball. Now I will say that Tamer Bowling does show the bad shots or off shots at the end of their videos.
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I don't know of to many bowlers who could afford to buy 2 or 3 balls just to do ball reviews with several different layouts and or finishes. The thing that I don't like is videos of balls and all they show are the strikes they make, now you know perfectly well that they surely don't strike with every ball. Now I will say that Tamer Bowling does show the bad shots or off shots at the end of their videos.
Non staff reviews are exempt from this. Notice the popularity of Motiv ball reviews. Doug and Justin both use more than one layout and showcase them against the other products in the line. That one extra ball to a staffer might mean 10 or more regular sales in pro shops or online.
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ONE drilling, used on ONE oil pattern, with ZERO surface modifications, with ZERO comparisons will NEVER, EVER constitute a true ball review.
Admit it. You posted this to meet your "staff obligation", not to offer any true value judgement on this ball for fellow bowlers.
How sad.
Not sure why I bother. Not like anyone reads this chaff any more.
It is part of my obligation to Ebonite to post ball reviews. Those of us on the regional/amateur staff get one ball, in addition not all of us work in pro shops or full time in the bowling business, so, it's not necessarily feasible to review a ball using multiple drill patterns and/or surfaces. I certainly won't alter a ball that I like and find useful just for a ball review. I try to explain how they work for me as best as I can based on my experience with the ball and that of others I see throw it.
RJ Alman
Ebonite Regional Staff
If you won't alter a ball's surface, or try an alternate drilling or use it on verious oil patterns, or compare it to 2 or 3 other balls, then posting a "review" is pointless and useless, except in so far as it meets your technical, contractual obligation to Ebonite. As has been said so many times before here on ballreviews, 99 out of 100 "staff" review are worthless .
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We can agree to disagree. I do my best to provide an objective description of how the ball reacts for me and where I believe it will be useful. While it may not have value for some people, it may have value for others. I'll relay your criticism to EBI so they are aware of it. Maybe it will help to provide improved reviews in the future.
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We can agree to disagree. I do my best to provide an objective description of how the ball reacts for me and where I believe it will be useful. While it may not have value for some people, it may have value for others. I'll relay your criticism to EBI so they are aware of it. Maybe it will help to provide improved reviews in the future.
No disrespect, but you keep your staff position by saying what they want you to say. Try speaking badly about the next new piece and see if you get renewed next year. You're "paid" to pimp their product, and if you don't, you get scolded or axed. #thecostoffreebowlingballs
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didn't have time to read all the banter but just wanted to give my thoughts on the ball...220+ avg in all houses I bowl multiple honor scores (only bowl once a week with no practice, 2 kids killed my bowling life)...hated the ball when I first got it so didn't throw it much, started bringing it out a few weeks back and the ball is money. Real smooth then really strong off the spot...has forgiveness too! Miss out and it'll recover, miss in and it will hold to a point but I'd rather miss out than in. Also have a code black and prefer the mission unknown. I'm a storm/roto guy with about 50 NIB balls and bought the unknowns on the hopes to get a red or gold and flip for a profit...needless to say I drilled this one up and have 4 sitting NIB and you can't give them away...but now that I've been throwing it more...I really like it! Reads the mids way better than by code black and is stronger overall for me. Haven't adjusted the surface at all but have to say i'm pleasantly surprised with it. Shot 288 two weeks ago and 813 last Monday. 1101 my last 4 games with it. Wasn't impressed to start, but it is definitely growing on me. Just my two cents and that's about as much as my advice is worth
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One other thing that deserves mention. No ball review can beat throwing a piece for yourself to see how it matches up to your game. EBI conducts Demo Days all over the country. Attend one in your area and see the performance of all the current EBI equipment first hand. Chances are you'll end up adding a ball to your arsenal.