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LuckyLefty

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Ebonite Tornado Warnings VS Ebonite Tornado
« on: May 02, 2017, 08:56:13 AM »
At the last second I took my old smooth and strong label leverage drilled Ebonite Tornado Blue Solid.

Started out on this wettish fresh synthetic shots with one of my weaker cored balls drilled with a weaker pin and immediately created a disaster.  A miss left washed out, a miss right split.  Disaster.

In a couple of frames to the second game I went to This smooth but strong ball Tornado(that overreacts on my harsh wet dry conditions of my home area).  And after one ball I knew it was like catching fish in a barrel.  Recovery, hold area and carry. 

Though I didn't win in this handicap event I was able to hang and maybe nip scratch a bunch of 230 big hands bowlers on my pair who weren't lucky enough to have this match up I had! 

This ball I know from Ebonite's website is the old Pancake with offset puck to get a slightly lower rg and higher diff than a straight pancake block.

Now my pro shop is offering me a Tornado Warning pearl.  I can't find much info on the Warning series, but for some reason I feel they are just Pancake block balls!

Any Ebonite experts out here who know on the Tornado Warning...Pancake with offset puck or just Pancake?  Thanks!

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PS of course I don't know if that is bad(pancake only block).  Lately on this same Extremus wet dry on the left, I have been almost looking like a smart and good bowler with old pancake block rubber balls. 
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Re: Ebonite Tornado Warnings VS Ebonite Tornado
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2017, 10:23:48 AM »
 You are correct in the fact that the Warnings only had a simple pancake without the inner puck.

 Back when they were out and a current line ball, I got one for that very reason. Used it for spares 95% of the time, and a strikeball only on really dry.
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Re: Ebonite Tornado Warnings VS Ebonite Tornado
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2017, 11:20:42 AM »
I thought the warning had a stronger cover and surface prep? I coulda swore it had "TPS" on it...And back then for a entry level ball that was cool.
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Re: Ebonite Tornado Warnings VS Ebonite Tornado
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2017, 11:30:10 AM »
I thought the warning had a stronger cover and surface prep? I coulda swore it had "TPS" on it...And back then for a entry level ball that was cool.

There was always a possibility that Ebonite would throw a particle (TPS) coverstock on anything back then, but, no, as far as I remember, the Warnings all came with the same coverstock (pearl) and a plain pancake core.

The dull solid Seafoam Solid blue Tornado was a great ball for light medium to medium oil. Many is the time I wish I still had mine.
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Re: Ebonite Tornado Warnings VS Ebonite Tornado
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2017, 01:17:23 PM »
I found the tornado I was thinking of. It's an actual to tornado.  My bad y'all. It does exist though!
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Re: Ebonite Tornado Warnings VS Ebonite Tornado
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2017, 07:10:57 AM »
pancake core had an friend with lots of hand do pretty well with it

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Re: Ebonite Tornado Warnings VS Ebonite Tornado
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2017, 08:59:06 PM »
Here is the version I used nicely this weekend.

http://www.ebonite.com/products/balls/retired-balls/tornado-navy-turquoise-silver

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Re: Ebonite Tornado Warnings VS Ebonite Tornado
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2017, 09:19:01 PM »
Here is the version I used nicely this weekend.

http://www.ebonite.com/products/balls/retired-balls/tornado-navy-turquoise-silver

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Re: Ebonite Tornado Warnings VS Ebonite Tornado
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2017, 09:30:47 PM »
Also known as the Stinger core, that ball was awesome. I had a Stinger Pearl that was stupid awesome. In fact, the whole Stinger line (The 2 piece line was awesome as well) was just plain old good.

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Re: Ebonite Tornado Warnings VS Ebonite Tornado
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2017, 02:45:32 PM »
It was not a weak pattern ie a good volume of oil and in the 40 foot range!  Slick synthetics.

Weaker than my Rotogrip Rogue Cell(probably my strongest solid) and stronger than my usually beloved Storm Hod Rod Super Sport pearl which gave me a left stay left and right stay right reaction.

This cover blended out the transition on the side perfectly and squared earlier than my awesome Ebonite Signal(can you say ring ring on this shot), and carried.  The slightly earlier square up was the key!

The strong pin helped.

I have higher sets (when I was better) with this ball but my matchup was perfect!
Remembering when I first got this ball it was almost as good and as strong as my super Demolition Zone!  I would use the Tornado and sometimes it was more and sometimes it was less than the Demolition Zone!

Impending...Really?  The Stinger Core is the Same as the Tornado being a pancake with an offset puck at the bottom?

I have a Stinger Pearl right now drilled 2 X 2, I can't find a matchup for it where it performs well for me!

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Re: Ebonite Tornado Warnings VS Ebonite Tornado
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2017, 06:36:47 PM »

Tornado Warning? I believe I have one NIB that I won from a drawing during a Demo Days event for the XXXcel or Total NV (can't remember the new ball at the time) I'll snap pics, get the serial number and post it when I get home. I've spent most of the week at the PWBA events in the area to not catch up on goings on here.

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Re: Ebonite Tornado Warnings VS Ebonite Tornado
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2017, 11:12:55 PM »
Actually the Stinger core and the Tornado cores were different. The Stinger had a larger flip block towards the top and a smaller one below it towards the bottom. The tornado had a pancake weight block at top and a offset puck, which was off to the side. Some people actually called the Tornado a mild asymmetrical core. The Stinger 2-piece core was an oval shape and was a lot higher diff, but they did have the low diff. 2-piece as well. Just my $.02, Bruce
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Re: Ebonite Tornado Warnings VS Ebonite Tornado
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2017, 09:26:34 AM »
Fantastic info out here in this post!

TY!

Bruce, When I think of pictures of the Stinger core I think of pictures I have seen of many cores in the AMF line!  Balls such as the Hawk, the Michael Jordon Pearl reactive...I think they were very close to the Stingers weren't they.

Big hitters, a little bit of higher rg than many cores today.

Appreciate all the answers on this area!  Would love to find more of these solid Tornado's to have backup!

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Re: Ebonite Tornado Warnings VS Ebonite Tornado
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2017, 12:28:16 PM »
So interesting talking about balls no one can get or access for the past 15 years.

NOT!!!

What the difference in reaction between a ball with a super mild coverstock and a pancake core and a more normal amount of RG Differential?
Is it even worth discussing balls that old that hardly anyone can use again. except

LUCKY LEFTY???

really????

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Re: Ebonite Tornado Warnings VS Ebonite Tornado
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2017, 02:16:42 PM »
Charlest,

I have enjoyed your comments over the years and insight.  Sorry to see you won't be commenting. 

Two things to ponder.

1.  You won't see this shot.  It is reserved for the left!  In our houses it blends out in practice on the right!  On the other hand when by myself it lasts unblended till late in the 3rd game.  How, do I know I also throw two handed righty and have endless push in these houses on the right and then tons of backend!  Easy!

2.  I have been related this story by a Rep for one of the big ball companies.
In California somewhere a league was put together with many of California's finest high average bowlers.  IT turns out the league had the highest composite average ever of a league in America.  The leader of this league averaged in the high 240s with a rubber ball!

Are we restricting ourselves from the endless possible lists of solutions by eliminating balls just because they are not on the shelves today?

Regards,

Luckylefty
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