Post by: Monster Stitch on October 06, 2008, 08:29:35 AM
Give me your insights and experiences with the ball.
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Post by: agroves on October 06, 2008, 08:18:45 PM
If your ball speed is low, go pin high about 4.5" from pap.
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Post by: Brickguy221 on October 06, 2008, 09:15:22 PM
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If your ball speed is high, go pin below ring or about 4" from pap.
If your ball speed is low, go pin high about 4.5" from pap.
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I drilled mine pin 4.5" from pap, but it is drilled pin almost under bridge and not pin high. So far I am not all that impressed with it's hitting and carry power. I will say that that ball does HOOK! It is the first ball I have ever owned that I can move left a bit (which isn't my game) and throw right and get it to come back to the pocket. Maybe it is because of my 15 mph speed and low revs that it doesn't carry well, I don't know. I probably average approx 7-8 ten pins to one strike with it regradless of what angle I try to play and when I do get astrike with it, it isn't an impressive hit/carry. I'm sure that sanding it to 4000 grit Abralon might help it as well as maybe a light coat of polish, but at the moment I don't want to adjust the cover as I want to keep it as it is for awhile and wait to see if there might be a condition it will perform better on. And yes, before someone says there might not be enough oil......there is plenty of oil. Ask Mike Austin if you doubt me.
Meanwhile, now the Playmaker, that ball is second to none. That ball gets thru the heads so well and seems to reserve all of it's energy for when it hits the pin deck. That ball hits, mixes and carrys like no ball I have ever had. All I can say about it is WOW! Between the Playmaker and the Twisted Fury Pearl, I can cover most of the conditions in the house I bowl in, thus another reason for not adjusting the cover on my Gamebreaker.
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Post by: charlest on October 06, 2008, 09:20:39 PM
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I'm thinking of getting a GB and debating how to do drill it. I want this to handle med/heavy oil. I know the core is very early rolling which makes me want to drill pin under but a friend of mine who bowls regionals says to drill it pin up. He says that it will give me better finish but still have the early roll in front.
Give me your insights and experiences with the ball.
Thanks.
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Post by: Leftyhi-trak on October 06, 2008, 10:15:12 PM
Brick a tiny shot of polish made a big difference in carry for me. (Actually two shots)
Post by: rymacatthedisco on October 06, 2008, 11:07:20 PM
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Post by: Mike300856 on October 09, 2008, 09:21:05 AM
Post by: themachine300 on October 09, 2008, 11:24:08 AM
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Ok here is my problem with the GB. I drilled one last year when it first came out, and hated it. Thought the layout was bad, wanted it to be agressive on something tight, and it was dead by the time the ball hit 40 feet. I had 17 games on it and put it back in the closet. Took it out this year, saw Dino and he layed it out for me, actually pro shop guy drilled me a new one, and same thing. It does not turn the corner hard enough AT all, the ball is supposed to be money in your hand, not for me, so if anyone has anymore advice on what to do before I put it in the closet with 8 games on the new one pleae share....
We need more info about you, the ball and the layout used. What's your pap, rev rate, etc. Whats the layout from your pap, surface finish of the ball and conditions that you use it on. What other equipment do you use with success, what's the layout from your pap and surface finish on them. That will help out to find what the problem is. I drilled 2 gamebreakers and they're fantastic imo
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Post by: Mike300856 on October 09, 2008, 12:02:11 PM
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Post by: themachine300 on October 09, 2008, 12:52:52 PM
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Here is the 411. I am 228 and bowl in many tournaments. I've had much success with brunswick equipment, espically the inferno line. Now, i'm mainly a Storm guy, my bag is 2 dominations, t road pearl, thunderstruck solid, trop storm with a 8inch pin, fired up, blue thunder(goto ball) My PAP is 5 3/8 x 0 and ball speed is 18mph, I kinda throw it like Jeff Carter, not too much hand but still hit it enough. Here is my prob, I bowl league in a center where its just SUPER tight, and i got comped a gamebreaker(2nd one) from my pro shop guy and like I said Dino layed it out, pin is up above ring cg is out, dont know specs exact and weight hole is down. Surface is out of box, I am going to bowl the mega bucks in feb and some big local events in december, so I'm looking for new equipment, any advice is appreciated again. GB is brand new just want it to work
Thats' rather odd. My sytle and axis seem almost exact to yours. My gamebreakers were laid out 5 1/2 above the bridge with a hole on axis and 6 X 5 pin below the middle both thrown out of the box. My pin up gb seems comparable enough to yours. I've never had a problem with it especially on medium amounts of oil. Heavy it not quite strong enough and its way to much ball for dry. The gamebreaker isn't a great recovery ball b/c of the low rg core and strong box finish. I find it best used right around the track area, to far in it won't recover enough.
Is there any other conditions you're able to test the ball on beside the one tight shot. I personally wouldn't use a ball like the gamebreaker on tight shots, I don't think it has enough backend. I prefer more angular balls like the raid and nvd and try to go around the carrydown
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Post by: Mike300856 on October 09, 2008, 01:08:41 PM
Post by: Monster Stitch on October 09, 2008, 04:17:15 PM
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Post by: Monster Stitch on October 14, 2008, 06:41:31 PM
Here's a pic: http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gbme6.jpg
For me, the Pin to PAP is 4-1/2 x 60 degrees.
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Post by: Jmiller88 on October 14, 2008, 11:14:41 PM
http://www.putfile.com/pic/7997272
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Post by: Monster Stitch on November 20, 2008, 04:25:26 PM
DO you see more backend?
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Post by: pegleg42090 on November 20, 2008, 04:30:45 PM
Post by: Mike300856 on November 21, 2008, 06:54:48 AM
Good luck
Post by: ambi1 on November 21, 2008, 08:01:09 PM
Some problem situations with which I've encountered with the Gb. But in no way am I saying the ball is not good. (Just in case you guys ever experience the same situation.)
1)I had sanded the ball to 2000 as the oob 4k was shining up. Didn't want to go 4k again as it doesn't last long. On the same house shot, ball hook a tad early, I adjusted, ball got to pocket, but wouldn't carry. I PUT IT AWAY.
2) polished it, on the same house shot, wouldn't hook consistently, but on another house with a stronger backend, ball was working so I DIDN'T PUT IT AWAY.
3) really heavy oil conditions.. shot went washout.. I PUT IT AWAY.
My point? I read a lot here about how this or that ball is no good etc... but a lot of people just don't know when NOT to use certain ball on certain conditons. Just as an example the post of Brickguy (brickguy, in no way is my post a form of attack against you, hope you don't take offense..) lower speed, strong ball, ball is hooking but not carrying. The playmaker, a pearl meanwhile is "seems to reserve all of its energy..." and success is also experienced with another pearl ball, but doesn't that answer one's own question?? The oil pattern called for pearls!!
There might have been enough oil to get to the pocket with the GB, but not enough to carry or play the line being used. And I've read a lot of post with about the same gist.. anyway sorry for the long ramble and hijack of the thread.
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