this freakin thing blows i have taken the surface down to 2000 and it is still half the ball it was when i first threw it. I cant depend on it to do anything but not carry and it does that consistently. Now i am gonna spend another 70 redrilling it. I need some suggestions. I am a 3/4 roller tweener and am now throwing the ball between 15 and 16.5 mph. it is set up with the pin below the ring finger with the pin cg and mb in line towards 4:00 with a weight hole just inside the mb ,about an inch between them.
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my style, the art of bowling without bowling

my mb is like 6 inches right of my thumb hole and my weight hole is right above it.kinda looks like thisin is (.) 1inch down and between fingers,cg. down and right 2 inches,weight hole 3 inches right of cg on same line, mb 1 inch straight down from weight hole and then the thumb hole.                        


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my style, the art of bowling without bowling

That looks like it's supposed to roll early.... what type of condition are you bowling on? 2000 is too soft for oily-oilness.

Also, are you sure soaking it is a good idea? Cus i've heard othewise...
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The Striking King.
More Spares = 200 avg.
More Spares Plus Strikes = 220 avg.

It seems like you complain about every ball you've bought recently.  From what I can remember, many of them were high end oilers.  Maybe you don't bowl on the volume of oil you think you do?  Those type of balls will look terrible when thrown on the wrong conditions.

What newer balls have you thrown recently that you do like?
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Telling it like it is.

His profile says he's a low track, low rev, low speed player.  No ball is going to look good coming out of that type of game unless the ball is drilled very delicate to his specs.  With the MB "6 inches" right of the thumb it could be almost 3 inches or more past his VAL which is going to cause a hook/set/die motion out of a ball with this much assymetry built in.  I shake my head in sadness every time I see a so called "pro shop operator" set people up with such terrible layouts and ball choices that would never fit the user's game.
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-DP3
Respect the Game

I don't care what the Ebonite drill sheet says, pin in relation to gripping holes mean nothing when PAP's are varying from 2 1/2" from the center of grip to as far as 6" from the center of grip.  So this guy's pin under ring Big One which could have a pin placement of 2" to his PAP would react a whole world of difference to someone like me where pin under ring would come out to be 5" from my PAP.  Lets not stray away from the basics here, that drill sheet is only a mere guideline assuming the person has a PAP measurement of "around" 5 inches right and a variance of 1/4 up or down.  Other than that, the picture is comepletely useless for someone with specs like the original person.


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-DP3
Respect the Game