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Equipment Boards => Ebonite => Topic started by: JEE on August 08, 2013, 09:59:55 AM
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I think I heard that a new ball from Ebonite is coming soon called the Pivot. Has anyone heard anything about it.
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Where? Maybe overseas? give us more info. :)
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I'm searching for information, pretty sure its a US release,
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I didnt compare numbers...but it looks like the shape lock hd core.
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I didnt compare numbers...but it looks like the shape lock hd core.
I doubt the Ebonite cover is as strong as the anything Storm put around that core for the US market.
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It looks very similar to the Powershot core Hammer put into the Amp.
Also, I'm not sure on what went into the cover, but with it being 500 Abralon, 1500 Abrabet (?) it would be similar to the Amp. I'm concerned that if it is, and it being high performance, you're paying top dollar for the performance a mid-high in the Amp would give you.. so I'd love to see how this compares to (and should exceed) the Amp.
BL.
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I agree with billdozer and the core number are very similar to the shape lock cores numbers from the VG!
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The amp core looks like the MAD core from the azo area check, storm vivid, and lucid.
A certain brand is clearly lacking creativity and clearly stating 'if u cant beat em join em?' Or is it plagiarism? At least from an art stand point (CAD is art right?) Plagiarism is a no no!
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Gonna find out shortly. Come on UPS. Pivot!! #bowlitforward.
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The amp core looks like the MAD core from the azo area check, storm vivid, and lucid.
A certain brand is clearly lacking creativity and clearly stating 'if u cant beat em join em?' Or is it plagiarism? At least from an art stand point (CAD is art right?) Plagiarism is a no no!
Since you brought up art... what about artistic license?
You can be sure that after the Mission Domination/250K vs. Paradigm Domination BS, EBI probably made just enough tweaks to not "cross the line" in the area of trademark/copyright law... or is this in the patent law area now?
Like it or not... we are all talking about it, and most haven't been compensated one iota.
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I have no clue, but I certainly dig the creativity of what im seing out of the track 910a and 900G the protocol. ..they just feel fresh, new, and exciting!
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And clearly they wont be crossing any lines legally and really theyre both off shoots of light bulb shapes, but cmon man!
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The amp core looks like the MAD core from the azo area check, storm vivid, and lucid.
A certain brand is clearly lacking creativity and clearly stating 'if u cant beat em join em?' Or is it plagiarism? At least from an art stand point (CAD is art right?) Plagiarism is a no no!
Since you brought up art... what about artistic license?
You can be sure that after the Mission Domination/250K vs. Paradigm Domination BS, EBI probably made just enough tweaks to not "cross the line" in the area of trademark/copyright law... or is this in the patent law area now?
Like it or not... we are all talking about it, and most haven't been compensated one iota.
Definitely copyright law, but you also have to think about how asinine that is.. it's like 3com Communications (network card manufacturer) getting sued by 3M for improper use of the number '3', which 3M believed they had copyrighted. that would mean that for anything to be marketed with the number '3', 3M believed that the other company would have to license the number from them.
Sounds stupid, no?
BL.
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Mine came in yesterday. Lots of things going on, hope to try it out on Monday.
1500 might be too much for my slow ball speed. Colorful it is.
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ebonite is desperate. how many "high performance" balls can you put out a year? they had what 3-4 last year plus the source that came out a couple weeks ago and this one is supposed to be better? they need to stop throwing crap at the wall and actually develop covers that compete with the best out there.
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The Source isn't in the top tier, and according to their Website the introduction of the Pivot brings the "High Performance" line to 3 balls total. Brunswick, Storm, and Columbia300 all have 3 balls in their top tier as well......
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The price point is 139.95, although high performance...I think thats very generous of ebonite to offer such a price point. Its like roto grip before the defiant line. HP balls used to be ~$140...those were the days!
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Ebonite has 2 balls that's been released this year with the Challenge being released last year! Brunswick's top end line, Aura, was released last year as was the Lucid in the Storm line! It doesn't surprise me with the new fall/winter leagues starting that the ball manufacturers are releasing new stuff!!! Wait till close to the holidays and you'll probably see more! They all do it and one company doesn't have the corner on releasing more than others! They have to keep up with each other!! lol I remember when I started in the bowling business that everybody was excited about the release of a new ball cause they didn't do it very often in the 70's and when I started drilling balls in the 80's it wasn't much different! Just my $.02, Bruce
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That's the problem with bowling, manufacturers are rushing balls to the market to compete with each other, and the overall quality of the product declines because I can't believe ball companies legitimately have time to test them before releasing them when they come out every couple of months.
I've only been back into bowling for about 2 months, but I haven't seen a single Ebonite/Track/C300 ball being thrown around here. To that end, the only Brunswick ball I've seen is the Aura and the only Hammer ball I've seen is the Nail smoke/fire. Seems like everyone is throwing Motiv, Storm, Roto and DV8. It also seems like their releases are spaced out rather than multiple balls in a few weeks time. Seems like they actually put time and effort into developing products that work, rather than just throwing whatever they have together and saying "buy me, I hook"...
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I thought it was the Virtual Gravity core also!
Great video with Mark Baker and Barry Asher!
Interesting as all get out..
REgards,
Luckylefty