Post by: Maelstrom on May 16, 2005, 05:20:42 AM
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Post by: kayoung08 on May 16, 2005, 01:29:48 PM
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im an adult who likes adult movies,
the kiddie porn is for the kids
how does a right hander leave the 3-6-7-8?
Post by: JPRLane1 on May 16, 2005, 01:33:48 PM
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Post by: thfonz98 on May 16, 2005, 01:38:18 PM
the puma and nitro/r are rereleased, V2 power, big time pearl
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Post by: Brickguy221 on May 16, 2005, 01:49:45 PM
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Experiencing the power of TRACK balls
Post by: JPRLane1 on May 16, 2005, 01:50:35 PM
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There is only one Lane#1. Know it, Live it, Throw it or Get Beat by IT! Leader & Founder of Fellowship of the Saws! Respect us or get left in our Saw Dust!Honorary member of the almighty NATION!
Post by: Brickguy221 on May 16, 2005, 01:53:54 PM
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Brand New
JR,
Does the cover have any particle in it, do you know?
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Post by: JPRLane1 on May 16, 2005, 01:57:25 PM
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There is only one Lane#1. Know it, Live it, Throw it or Get Beat by IT! Leader & Founder of Fellowship of the Saws! Respect us or get left in our Saw Dust!Honorary member of the almighty NATION!Edited on 5/16/2005 1:51 PM
Post by: JPRLane1 on May 16, 2005, 02:06:02 PM
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Post by: the pizz on May 16, 2005, 02:42:28 PM
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Paul Smith
04/05 PBA West Region Rookie of the Year
Ebonite Regional Staff
"Bowl to Win"
Post by: Overhand on May 16, 2005, 02:44:03 PM
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not sure about that xxxcel logo.....
fine, just replace it with "USBC".
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Post by: kayoung08 on May 16, 2005, 02:53:51 PM
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im an adult who likes adult movies,
the kiddie porn is for the kids
how does a right hander leave the 3-6-7-8?
Post by: the pizz on May 16, 2005, 03:56:23 PM
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Paul Smith
04/05 PBA West Region Rookie of the Year
Ebonite Regional Staff
"Bowl to Win"
Post by: sportbowler on May 16, 2005, 04:04:50 PM
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NOTHING LIKE A STORM BALLPost by: sportbowler on May 16, 2005, 04:06:45 PM
http://www.ebonite.com/products/product_page.php?PRKey=229
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NOTHING LIKE A STORM BALLPost by: sportbowler on May 16, 2005, 04:09:04 PM
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NOTHING LIKE A STORM BALLPost by: the pizz on May 16, 2005, 04:13:01 PM
dont u have some balls to sniff? LOL
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Paul Smith
04/05 PBA West Region Rookie of the Year
Ebonite Regional Staff
"Bowl to Win"
Post by: BowlerKidR on May 16, 2005, 04:36:14 PM
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gostorm, they brought back the classics because they did a vote on the ebonite website on which 5 balls were the most popular of all time. they are bringing some of them back because ebonite cares what the consumers think. thats what sets ebonite a part from the rest of the other ball companies.
dont u have some balls to sniff? LOL
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Paul Smith
04/05 PBA West Region Rookie of the Year
Ebonite Regional Staff
"Bowl to Win"
Also, these balls were GREAT balls for their time and they sold. If they can make them now to preform the same as they did before but on todays conditions, these re-releases will be a hit. Plus everyonw is doing it, ebonite, hammer, storm
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Post by: charlest on May 16, 2005, 04:44:31 PM
AND
Since there is no difference in the specs between the Ice and the Black Ice, what accounts for the difference in length and overall hook numbers? There seems to be no apparent difference in the core or in the description of the coverstock, other than the color, of course.
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Just like hand grenades and horse shoes, in bowling you only have to get close ...
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Post by: Brickguy221 on May 16, 2005, 04:49:24 PM
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gostorm, they brought back the classics because they did a vote on the ebonite website on which 5 balls were the most popular of all time. they are bringing some of them back because ebonite cares what the consumers think. thats what sets ebonite a part from the rest of the other ball companies.
Paul, (the pizz)
Then where is the old original V2 Pearl that I've been screaming for??????
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Post by: J_Mac on May 16, 2005, 06:11:07 PM
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Post by: loose5682 on May 16, 2005, 06:50:16 PM
XXXCel - Earlier than the XXCel, a teeny bit longer than the XCel Particle? Obviously earlier than the XCel Pearl. Seems basically like a reactive XCel, rather strong it seems...probably strong in the backend too. Perhaps what the Killer Instinct should have been?
Big Time Pearl - Does seem close to the original Big Time, but if the cover is pearlized, then I can clearly see the difference. Should be longer than the original, perhaps stronger in the backend too? Very sharp looking too!
V2 Power - Dual flip blocks should give this thing a kick in the backend, looks like a strong cover around it also...no particle it looks like also. Like the description says, stronger in the backend than the Strong/R...maybe a little cleaner through the front too? Not much I bet. Also very sharp looking!
Black Ice - I anticipate that the difference between the Ice and the Black Ice, though the core and cover are the same, could be the hardness between the two balls? Perhaps the Ice has a harder cover, thus making it naturally go longer than the Black Ice, which by the numbers is set up to be earlier and more hook overall. This is just speculation of course
Cross Fire - Looks like earlier and more aggressive than the Fire, at least this one has a different core, shorter and fatter should equal earlier and rollier than the original Fire.
Won't comment on the classics, never threw or really got familiar with the Puma or Nitro R2, and the Tornados/Warnings/Maxims are just color changes.
-Disclaimer-
I have not thrown these balls nor am I associated with Ebonite, just trying to get some discussion going and get more info about these new releases!
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Post by: Goof1073 on May 16, 2005, 08:08:57 PM
The cross fire interests me as well...I've had great luck with the lightbulb shaped cores.
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Post by: charlest on May 16, 2005, 08:58:12 PM
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Gotta drill myself a Puma again...how can you not love that ball?
The cross fire interests me as well...I've had great luck with the lightbulb shaped cores.
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-Chris: DJ's Pro Shop : Auburn, MA
Both were excellent balls.
I kind of like the look and idea of the Black Ice, but I'd really like to know the actual difference between it and the original Ice. The website does not seem to indicate that.
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Post by: TheDude on May 17, 2005, 12:19:08 AM
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Post by: JPRLane1 on May 18, 2005, 01:45:20 PM
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Gotta drill myself a Puma again...how can you not love that ball?
The cross fire interests me as well...I've had great luck with the lightbulb shaped cores.
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-Chris: DJ's Pro Shop : Auburn, MA
Both were excellent balls.
I kind of like the look and idea of the Black Ice, but I'd really like to know the actual difference between it and the original Ice. The website does not seem to indicate that.
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Just like hand grenades and horse shoes, in bowling you only have to get close ...
Ice=pearlized Trimax Reactive resin, Black Ice=Solid Trimax reactive resin. As I have said many times Ebonites descriptions can be misleading, sometimes they describe two balls with same cover and then under the color section mention pearlization, sometimes they aren't even that kind. This is the definitive difference in the two balls.
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Post by: DP3 on May 18, 2005, 01:57:05 PM
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-DP3
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Post by: Koabzilla on May 19, 2005, 12:00:50 PM
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WRECKING STICKS SINCE '93
Post by: the pizz on May 19, 2005, 06:12:32 PM
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Anyone know the release dates for these balls. Sorry if it is in one of these post, I am just too lazy to look thru all of them! =/
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then i guess youll never know.
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Post by: Big Columbia on May 19, 2005, 07:32:41 PM
JP
Post by: LuckyLefty on May 19, 2005, 11:14:19 PM
Puma. If I remember a pretty good bowler name of Jeff Carter used to use this thing before he went on his record rampage with the Vortex series!
If I remember he really loved it!
REgards,
Luckylefty
Cougar =
http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=632
Post by: charlest on May 20, 2005, 07:51:34 PM
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Both were excellent balls.
I kind of like the look and idea of the Black Ice, but I'd really like to know the actual difference between it and the original Ice. The website does not seem to indicate that.
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Just like hand grenades and horse shoes, in bowling you only have to get close ...
Ice=pearlized Trimax Reactive resin, Black Ice=Solid Trimax reactive resin. As I have said many times Ebonites descriptions can be misleading, sometimes they describe two balls with same cover and then under the color section mention pearlization, sometimes they aren't even that kind. This is the definitive difference in the two balls.
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Just read the BTM review of Black Ice. (This issue so far has some very unusual reviews. See my comments in Storm and Roto-Grip forums.) It's barely more than the Ice itself. Although a solid, it hardly has the capablites of a medium oil ball, according to their words and numbers. It is smoother, slightly earlier and slightly more backend.
My original thought, once you guys clued me to the fact that it was a solid, a Trimax solid, was, "Oh, great, a strong cover on a highish RG and a low flare differential - one of my favorite combos." Now, I'm like, "Oh, Sh*t!" - very disappointed.
Back to the drawing board, unless reviews of people I trust indicate otherwise. (Yes, it's cheap, but I'm very tired of testing balls.)
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Post by: DanR on May 25, 2005, 09:59:23 AM
the CrossFire is reactive polished pearl and the ball is stronger than everyone thinks. It rolls awesome