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Equipment Boards => Ebonite => Topic started by: omphlet on December 11, 2012, 02:25:35 PM
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http://ebonite.com/products/product_detail/exceed
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met the guy that's on the ad for this ball at a demo after being there for about 10 minutes he made my wife so mad that we ended up leaving the demo and I have not bought another ebonite ball since.
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That's never good, especially in front of potential customers...
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Ya she had wanted to throw the 706A but he kept telling her thats not the ball for you you would not like it dont waste your time your rev rate is to low to get the advantages out of that ball so he handed her the endure she hates yellow so she told him she would not buy it even if it rolled good. So then he says well i guess you know more than i do so you can throw whatever you want. So at that point my wife turns to me and says im going home so unless you want to walk home i suggest you get ready to leave.
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Never tick off the ladies...
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Isn't the point of a demo to throw a bunch of different balls to see how they work with your own game? That just cost Ebonite some sales.
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Ya i have since changed over to a all 900 global amf arsenal and i got her a jewel and the look which she loves her avg has gone from 178 to 193 in 4 weeks.
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The lady doesn't like yellow. Dude needs to understand that most women look at bowling balls with an entirely different perspective than guys. If you are in sales, you won't make a living telling people they are wrong on what they do and don't want.
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Thanks guys im glad you guys understand
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I had a Hammer Burn for about 2 weeks. At first I thought the yellow would be really cool going down the lane. Boy was I wrong. Not only was it one of the UGLIEST balls I've ever thrown, I couldn't read the reaction at all. The yellow is just too hard to see for me. I have a track 916AT that is red and yellow, but I made sure the one I got from my pro shop is mostly red.
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Got two in today, lots of red and blue in these.
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Gonna punch one for Monday. Colors remind me of the Red, White and Blue Tornado. A great seller.
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Gonna punch one for Monday. Colors remind me of the Red, White and Blue Tornado. A great seller.
How different is the verve core than the one that was in the vital sign/energy? One.of my buddies might be interested in this ball?
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Vital A core vs. Verve a core. Verve in Waring Sign, Innovate(my favorite)m and new Exceed.
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I'm not sure in the Video which guy you are talking about.
I've been to one and the fellow on the right of the Video and throwing the ball was there.
He has a dry sense of humor but I liked the way he talked about bowling and my bowling, not a lot of fluff and pretty direct. It is tough to sync with everyone.
Regards,
Luckylefty
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First off, what demo was that in? What city? And then I can tell you what really happened. I've been the demo leader for two years now. And can guaranty that there was a miscommunication or something like the drilling on this ball might not be the best for her. So what demo was this in?
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Well home sick for three more days. Can't try out my new toy. Any one else roll theirs yet?
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Mine are ready to be punched up tonight, I will post a quick review after I throw it tonight. Ball looks really good too!
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Was able to drill one of them and throw it on our house pattern. Layout was 60 x 4 1/2 x 35 with no hole. The exceed was left at box 3000 surface. If you like the innovate, you'll love this ball! I loved all of my innovates and it's still my go to ball. This ball gives me the same motion that I love from my innovate through the pins just stronger through the body of the pattern. I haven't had a ball pick up in the mid lane and continue like this since the gamebreaker. This ball allows me to jump 7 boards in with my feet and about 5 at the arrows with a same drilling innovate. These two balls complement each other very well! Compared to some of the other dull balls in the ebonite line up this ball was about 3 boards stronger than the perservre and 3 boards weaker than the challenge. The perservre allows me to square up more to the pattern where the exceed and challenge let me open up the pattern more. I'm very impressed with the last 6 balls ebonite has put out and I'm looking forward to 2013 with ebonite! Bowl to win!!
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met the guy that's on the ad for this ball at a demo after being there for about 10 minutes he made my wife so mad that we ended up leaving the demo and I have not bought another ebonite ball since.
Wow. Sure hate to hear that. I work with Anthony on almost a weekly basis although not everyone can always mesh personality wise he is normally liked by most. I wasn't there so I cant say one way or another but we are all human and have our off days. I hope you find you way back to EBI products one day and even a Demo. They are worth a second chance lots of good stuff coming out now days!
Bowl well and Happy Holidays!
Christina
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Was able to drill one of them and throw it on our house pattern. Layout was 60 x 4 1/2 x 35 with no hole. The exceed was left at box 3000 surface. If you like the innovate, you'll love this ball! I loved all of my innovates and it's still my go to ball. This ball gives me the same motion that I love from my innovate through the pins just stronger through the body of the pattern. I haven't had a ball pick up in the mid lane and continue like this since the gamebreaker. This ball allows me to jump 7 boards in with my feet and about 5 at the arrows with a same drilling innovate. These two balls complement each other very well! Compared to some of the other dull balls in the ebonite line up this ball was about 3 boards stronger than the perservre and 3 boards weaker than the challenge. The perservre allows me to square up more to the pattern where the exceed and challenge let me open up the pattern more. I'm very impressed with the last 6 balls ebonite has put out and I'm looking forward to 2013 with ebonite! Bowl to win!!
Hi, just a quick question, so if i'm needing a longer ball than an innovate that i have now, i shouldn't get an exceed? Would another innovate with a longer layout be a better choice?
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Hi, just a quick question, so if i'm needing a longer ball than an innovate that i have now, i shouldn't get an exceed? Would another innovate with a longer layout be a better choice?
For more length and slower transition at the breakpoint try 30°x5.5"x45°.
If you are worried about it blowing past the breakpoint a 30°x4.875"x45° will start up earlier.
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Hi, just a quick question, so if i'm needing a longer ball than an innovate that i have now, i shouldn't get an exceed? Would another innovate with a longer layout be a better choice?
For more length and slower transition at the breakpoint try 30°x5.5"x45°.
If you are worried about it blowing past the breakpoint a 30°x4.875"x45° will start up earlier.
Hi, those numbers are too low for me. (Nearly 90 degrees of rotation, 3-5 degrees of tilt). But anyway, did you mean, that i get another innovate?
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Hi, just a quick question, so if i'm needing a longer ball than an innovate that i have now, i shouldn't get an exceed? Would another innovate with a longer layout be a better choice?
For more length and slower transition at the breakpoint try 30°x5.5"x45°.
If you are worried about it blowing past the breakpoint a 30°x4.875"x45° will start up earlier.
Hi, those numbers are too low for me. (Nearly 90 degrees of rotation, 3-5 degrees of tilt). But anyway, did you mean, that i get another innovate?
I admit I didn't have all the info I needed before and just tossed in average tilt and rotation in the system.
Don't feel comfortable making a recommendation for someone with tilt and rotation like that.
Curious what aspect of the numbers you were referring to when you said "too low"?
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why is it that every ebonite ball looks the same?
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I went to the Demo in Atlanta GA and came out impressed with the Exceed. I also liked the First Blood and the 714C but the Exceed had better carry than the other 2 balls for me. The Exceed may very well be the next ball I buy,but I have questions. What is the difference between the Warning Sign and the Exceed? Looks like the same VERVE core on the latest ads but I did see some advertisements where the Warning Sign had a Vital Sign core. Did the Warning Sign have a different core at one time? I see different covers but both are hybrids HTR 2 and 3. What is the difference in the covers?
I am asking because I can get a Warning Sign a lot cheaper at the present time than an Exceed. But I need to know the difference and whether or not I get a ball that may have a different core than the Exceed if get a Warning Sign.
Also of note. Anthony was real helpful at the Demo. He suggested me trying the Exceed while I was using the 714C. I was striking but leaving a lot of single pins also. The Exceed had more continuation through the pin deck carrying almost every pocket hit.
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Look on Ebonite's website! It shows the Warning Sign has the Verve core with the HTR coverstock! The Exceed has a Hybrid HTR 3.0 coverstock, so they are different! The Innovate has a polished HTR 3.0 coverstock with a Verve core! So all 3 are different with variations in coverstock! Just my $.02, Bruce