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DP3

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A Tale of Two Warriors.
« on: July 18, 2006, 12:29:14 PM »
Copied from my review section.  I know not many read the reviews anymore but I have to share with you guys how much I love this ball.  I also have one NIB 16lb blank in the house for future use.

I have 2 Warriors in my bag for tougher conditions where a consistent read is a plus and a certain specific reaction is required.

My first Warrior is layed out with a 4" pin to PAP placement, a 6" MB to PAP placement and a 57/64" weighthole drilled 2 1/2 inches deep on the PAP.  Pin height is 2 1/2" above the midline.  Starting topweight was 3oz.  Ball is at 800 grit.

I have about 40 games on this Warrior.  I chose to keep it dull because with my speed to rev-rotation ratio I need an earlier read because shooting the ball through the breakpoint is a problem for me.  Combined with an 800 surface grit, this Warrior gives me an early read with a smooth aggressive arc through the pocket.  I love using this in heavier fresh oils on more demanding conditions when free hook isn't available.  The low surface grit allows me to scribe a hook to the pocket while playing direct and after a game or two I have burned myself some free swing area in the midlanes.  This ball has also become my "get out of jail free card" when I am clueless to how to play the lanes.  Off the ditch with this piece gives me a great look and roll on a variety of conditions and surfaces.  The only problem is, too much dry will make this ball finish very weak.  That's usually my cue to go to Warrior #2.

My second Warrior is drilled with a drilling I saw on BrunswickInsiders.com that Tommy Jones and Patrick Allen used a majority of last season while throwing The One.  It is a pin placement of 5 1/2 inches to the PAP, with a pin height above the midline of 5 INCHES!  a Long pin was required for this layout so I went with a 4 1/2" pin out.  The MB was kept 1" below the midline(3 3/8ths from my PAP) and a 1" weighthole 3 1/4 inches deep was needed in the finger quadrant to give it a more forward roll motion off the breakpoint and to keep it within legal specs.  The ball was kept in it's OOB polish.  I have around 30 games on this ball.

From looking at the drill on this Warrior you'd think it'd go 50 ft and not move much but that's the complete opposite.  This ball revs up very heavy in the midlane around 35 feet and makes it's move toward the pocket on a more forward angle than your typical sideways motion.  It's almost reminiscent of a Urethane move on fresh shorter patterns.  I can see why Tommy Jones loves this layout because the control it gives off the breakpoint is definitely needed on patterns where there isn't much of a buff area at the end of the pattern which gives alot of balls a sideways move out of the end of the pattern.  This ball is also strong enough and more than capable of handling house patterns that have alot of friction to the right.  Since it's slower in response off of the dry, it goes where you throw it and is predictable out of the friction, which I love.  

The TPC Warrior and the propeller core is a favorite of mine, as the core is very versatile and gives you many options of breakpoint shape with different drills.  The cover(Big Wheel Pearl, also seen on the Savage Pearl) is also strong enough, yet versatile enough to take cover adjustments well and still be strong in today's thicker oils.  

Both of these balls will stay in my tournament bag for the upcoming season since they are so different from everything else I'm throwing.  They also allow me to play a comfort zone I am used to with predictability and strong hitting power.
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J_Mac

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Re: A Tale of Two Warriors.
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2006, 08:39:40 PM »
Interesting review on the layout used by TJ and PA...  

Does anyone know if this layout is asymmetrical core specific?
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Re: A Tale of Two Warriors.
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2006, 09:15:49 PM »
I assume it would be cause the purpose is to get more forward roll without early hook on a strong assymetrical.  My Warrior spun up on a determinator in around 9 seconds so it's fairly strong assymetrical for its age.  on a symmetrical placing the pin that high might just keep adding significant length without much left for the backend.  Ever drill a bonanza reactive ball with a long pin like that really high?  I think the effect would be like that in something symmetric.  I will be making videos tomorrow(hopefully)  Maybe I'll throw in a few shots of each warriors along with some other stuff.
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Re: A Tale of Two Warriors.
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2006, 09:35:48 PM »
I've always liked that propellor core as well. Really liked the Shooter (not the XL) and had a Player for quite awhile too. Recently a friend was given a Warrior drilled lefty, and we were quite limited with drilling options once all the plugging was done, but was able to go with a 4 inch pin to PAP and around a 25 degree Bomb with a hole on the axis. This put the pin below and a bit to the right of his ring. I have a Vapor Zone drilled similar which I love, and the Warrior, while weaker overall, had the same move of a smooth transition with good roll.

Not bad for a freebee.