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Equipment Boards => Ebonite => Topic started by: yoshii on December 11, 2007, 02:25:37 AM

Title: Something Stronger..
Post by: yoshii on December 11, 2007, 02:25:37 AM
I am using my Brunswick BVP Rampage at the moment as my primary ball. I was looking to try Ebonite and wanted something that can play almost any condition, and have a skid/snap motion. i throw the ball around 13-15 MPH, and i have rev (not as much as Robert Smith, but i have some! haha). what do you think is a good choice?
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Title: Re: Something Stronger..
Post by: Lane1Redneck on December 11, 2007, 10:28:42 AM
NVS.. got are son one when they came out.. it's a good 1-2 punch with his Rampage..

The NVS is strong for a pearl.. his gets good length, but when it hits dry, it's taken off.. It works for him..
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Title: Re: Something Stronger..
Post by: yoshii on December 11, 2007, 10:29:29 AM
but i heard the NVS needs a lot of oil? is that true? i have a columbia resurgence and that sucker needs so much oil to not roll out.
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Columbia Resurgence,
Brunswick Rampage,
Storm Tropical Storm.
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Title: Re: Something Stronger..
Post by: charlest on December 11, 2007, 11:04:11 AM
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but i heard the NVS needs a lot of oil? is that true?


No, it's a resin pearl sanded to 2000 grit and then highly polished. But it is stronger in oil handling and in overall hooking ability than the Rampage.

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 i have a columbia resurgence and that sucker needs so much oil to not roll out.
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Columbia Resurgence,
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Storm Tropical Storm.
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The NVS should fit between the Rampage and the Resurgence.
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Title: Re: Something Stronger..
Post by: bowler0821 on December 11, 2007, 11:15:07 AM
another choice might be the gamebreaker if he didn't want to go with a nvs.
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Title: Re: Something Stronger..
Post by: strikingresults-atl on December 11, 2007, 12:01:32 PM
raid
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Title: Re: Something Stronger..
Post by: rhbowling07 on December 11, 2007, 02:32:48 PM
the big one
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Title: Re: Something Stronger..
Post by: charlest on December 11, 2007, 04:03:29 PM
quote:
another choice might be the gamebreaker if he didn't want to go with a nvs.
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Mike Marchak

Ebonite Bowling The World Over

In this game i could not of heard it any better then what my coach says. "LESS IS MORE".(Mitch Sacks) He does prove what he says "  
Mitch Sacks -  889; 852; 806; 2-299's; 2-300 Games with the SR300. 299 & 816 w/Big One 846 With Angular One Tremendous Bowling Mitch!!!! "http://ebonite.com/honor_roll/index.php
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I believe the Gamebreaker would overlap with the Resurgence to too large a degree.
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Title: Re: Something Stronger..
Post by: micbowl on December 11, 2007, 04:05:06 PM
Have you considered the Rival? I have one and it hooks more than the NVS, Black Widow Solid and Gamebreaker. I do not have a Resurgence but from what I read the Rival hooks 3-5 boards less. The Rival gets down the lane very easily and recovers very well. It's a pretty inexpensive ball. You can get in on Bowlingball.com and with their discount ($15 - code xmas15) and Ebill's discount ($15)for less $85. To qualify for both discount your total purchase must total to atleast $115.

Edited on 12/11/2007 5:06 PM
Title: Re: Something Stronger..
Post by: bowler0821 on December 11, 2007, 07:26:24 PM
I believe the Gamebreaker would overlap with the Resurgence to too large a degree.
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I could be wrong but from what I see and what I have gotten the resurgence is at least anywhere from 5-9 or more boards stronger. I really don't see these balls overlaping at all
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Mike Marchak

Ebonite Bowling The World Over

In this game i could not of heard it any better then what my coach says. "LESS IS MORE".(Mitch Sacks) He does prove what he says "  
Mitch Sacks -  889; 852; 806; 2-299's; 2-300 Games with the SR300. 299 & 816 w/Big One 846 With Angular One Tremendous Bowling Mitch!!!! "http://ebonite.com/honor_roll/index.php
http://www.strikingdifference.com/
Title: Re: Something Stronger..
Post by: rymacatthedisco on December 11, 2007, 07:30:44 PM
i have to agree with mike here...ive thrown both, and the resurgence is BY FAR WAY WAY stronger than the gamebreaker, the gb is a GREAT ball, but no where near as strong as the resurgence
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Title: Re: Something Stronger..
Post by: charlest on December 11, 2007, 07:54:36 PM
everything is relative.

The Gambreaker is at least 2 steps above the Rampage, IF it is really one step below the Resurgence. (Remember that house oil blends can hide the true  difference between balls.) It may hook more but it doesn't handle that much more oil, which is the dividing line these days.
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Title: Re: Something Stronger..
Post by: rymacatthedisco on December 11, 2007, 07:57:35 PM
i just cant agree with you charles t...if i go bowl college pattern and its 39 ft heavy oil blend, my gb is gonna skate all the way down, if its heavy, but the resurgence for sure will pick up a roll and open the pattern up...oob the gb is 2000, thats not a lot of surface at all
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Title: Re: Something Stronger..
Post by: yoshii on December 12, 2007, 01:10:23 AM
sounds like the gamebreaker is a strong ball, but not as strong as my resurgence. im just looking for that medium lane condition that will hit hard with a skid/flip motion. ive seen the rival drilled 3 different ways and it does look interesting. ive also seen the gamebreaker. that looked good, but also needed a lot of oil. could just be they sanded it down too. ive yet to see the NVS in action. right now i think i am leaning towards the rival. but the raid or GB sounds interesting. thanks for the help guys.
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Columbia Resurgence,
Brunswick Rampage,
Storm Tropical Storm.
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Title: Re: Something Stronger..
Post by: bowler0821 on December 12, 2007, 09:20:58 AM
Well everyone has their own options but, I will let his scores and knowlege speak for themself. Just because you might not like his personality or they way he coaches does not make him a joke.

Also back to the topic at hand the rival is a great ball can not go wrong with it. If you are looking for skid snap it can be good for it. The raid, angular one, total nv are other ones that could be good. Any of them are good balls. Im sure you will pick out a winner with the huge feild that is out there.
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Ebonite Bowling The World Over

In this game i could not of heard it any better then what my coach says. "LESS IS MORE".(Mitch Sacks) He does prove what he says "  
Mitch Sacks -  889; 852; 806; 2-299's; 2-300 Games with the SR300. 299 & 816 w/Big One 846 With Angular One Tremendous Bowling Mitch!!!! "http://ebonite.com/honor_roll/index.php
http://www.strikingdifference.com/

Edited on 12/12/2007 10:23 AM

Edited on 12/12/2007 10:31 AM
Title: Re: Something Stronger..
Post by: rymacatthedisco on December 12, 2007, 10:25:17 AM
donny d....

wuts up the mitch comment?
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Title: Re: Something Stronger..
Post by: rymacatthedisco on December 12, 2007, 03:00:13 PM
i can agree he does think pretty highly of himself, but i mean he is a very very smart person when it comes to bowling and he is an excellent bowler, he averaged what, 240-250 last year...i mean by no means is he terrible...

but i guess thats your opinion we all have them...

on topic again, the resurgence is still way stronger than the gb...
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Title: Re: Something Stronger..
Post by: ElectricLeftSlider on December 12, 2007, 03:56:28 PM
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Have you considered the Rival? I have one and it hooks more than the NVS, Black Widow Solid and Gamebreaker. I do not have a Resurgence but from what I read the Rival hooks 3-5 boards less. The Rival gets down the lane very easily and recovers very well. It's a pretty inexpensive ball. You can get in on Bowlingball.com and with their discount ($15 - code xmas15) and Ebill's discount ($15)for less $85. To qualify for both discount your total purchase must total to atleast $115.

Edited on 12/11/2007 5:06 PM


I myself, also have the NVS, Rival, & Resurgence. As far as the Rival goes, it plays the lane wayyyyy more smoother than the NVS does. The Rival has been my go to ball in my PBA league. My NVS has been an over/under ball for me. If you get the right drilling for the Rival, you can't go wrong. It's Chris Barnes 80%.
Title: Re: Something Stronger..
Post by: TWOHAND834 on December 12, 2007, 04:26:42 PM
The Raid is the best choice, here.  It has a skid/snap type of reaction.  It is a step under the Resurgence. It is a step above the Rampage.  It can be used on medium light to medium heavy conditions depending on surface prep.  The only other way you could go is maybe a Gamebreaker and and add Factory Finish to it.  But, the Raid will not disappoint you for what you are looking for.
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Title: Re: Something Stronger..
Post by: micbowl on December 12, 2007, 07:22:21 PM
I have the gamebreaker and it's not a skid/flip ball. The rival or the black widow solid are two better choices. I have all three balls and the black widow has the best skid/flip reaction between the three. The rival is little stronger than the black widow and not as flippy but is a great ball to be under the resurgence. Its Chris Barnes 80 percenter!
Title: Re: Something Stronger..
Post by: Jzero on December 12, 2007, 07:31:15 PM
Raid would probably be your best options, maybe even an Angular One. I currently have all three of these balls and they complement each other very well.  Raid would give you a more arcy motion that would be good for heavier stuff, while the Angular one would have a similar look to you rampage but with a much stronger skid/snap move on the backend.
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