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Equipment Boards => Ebonite => Topic started by: omphlet on May 14, 2013, 10:37:31 AM

Title: The Ebonite Source
Post by: omphlet on May 14, 2013, 10:37:31 AM
http://ebonite.com/products/product_detail/source
Title: Re: The Ebonite Source
Post by: DP3 on May 14, 2013, 11:10:51 AM
Automatic Home Run.
Title: Re: The Ebonite Source
Post by: TWOHAND834 on May 14, 2013, 11:30:14 AM
So is this ball replacing the Innovate? 
Title: Re: The Ebonite Source
Post by: Phoneman on May 14, 2013, 11:53:04 AM
Mission core I will take one as soon as they are out if not sooner.
Title: Re: The Ebonite Source
Post by: Phoneman on May 14, 2013, 11:56:09 AM
Looks like it is the next evolution of a Mission.  XL2000 cover with the mission core.  That line of balls was the best I ever had.  I can't wait for this one.
Title: Re: The Ebonite Source
Post by: Brian Green on May 14, 2013, 12:21:10 PM
This ball sounds deadly
Title: Re: The Ebonite Source
Post by: bradl on May 14, 2013, 02:20:52 PM

This is interesting..

They are marketing this as an upper/Mid performance ball, though the coverstock appears to be the next generation up from the XL1350, which is on the Mission X, and uses the same core.. So why a different name?

I mean, it walks like a Mission, talks like a Mission.. Why not call it a Mission?

hopefully, some videos of this new guy comes out, as I'd love to compare it to how a Champion rolls.

BL.
Title: Re: The Ebonite Source
Post by: charlest on May 14, 2013, 04:22:16 PM

This is interesting..

They are marketing this as an upper/Mid performance ball, though the coverstock appears to be the next generation up from the XL1350, which is on the Mission X, and uses the same core.. So why a different name?

I mean, it walks like a Mission, talks like a Mission.. Why not call it a Mission?

BL.


Possibly because they've named a whole bunch of balls, Mission "XXXX", and except for the $250k, most don't seem to have been as successful as the original. Like with the Taboo series, you have to be very careful, marketing-wise, how many times "you take the horse to drink from the same trough." Your premium line shouldn't have any "stinkers" in it and if they prove to be such, they've got to be removed as quickly as possible (See Storm Invasion).

Plus unlike the other Missions, they're marketing this one as a polished ball. It may be marketed as the replacement for the Innovate, a polished asymmetric. Kind of surprising, though, after the just introduced the Champion, in their super-premium line.
Title: Re: The Ebonite Source
Post by: bradl on May 14, 2013, 06:12:10 PM

This is interesting..

They are marketing this as an upper/Mid performance ball, though the coverstock appears to be the next generation up from the XL1350, which is on the Mission X, and uses the same core.. So why a different name?

I mean, it walks like a Mission, talks like a Mission.. Why not call it a Mission?

BL.


Possibly because they've named a whole bunch of balls, Mission "XXXX", and except for the $250k, most don't seem to have been as successful as the original. Like with the Taboo series, you have to be very careful, marketing-wise, how many times "you take the horse to drink from the same trough." Your premium line shouldn't have any "stinkers" in it and if they prove to be such, they've got to be removed as quickly as possible (See Storm Invasion).

I see what you mean, but the other side of that is how many Missions they have made for overseas use. 1.5, Super, Secret, XXX, Realize, Complete, and Amazing, on top of the original, 2.0, Domination/250K, and X. 11 balls total.. I don't know how the overseas releases did, but still.

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Plus unlike the other Missions, they're marketing this one as a polished ball. It may be marketed as the replacement for the Innovate, a polished asymmetric. Kind of surprising, though, after the just introduced the Champion, in their super-premium line.

That's the only difference I really see. Everything else after the Mission X is using the GTR coverstock with the exception of the Amazing, which is using the NBT Hybrid coverstock (same cover as the First Blood), and the Complete, which was marketed as a pearl.

I'm really wondering how this compares to the Champion, and also wonder if they are going to put out anything else prior to the season starting in September..

BL.
Title: Re: The Ebonite Source
Post by: J_Mac on May 14, 2013, 07:35:01 PM

I'm really wondering how this compares to the Champion, and also wonder if they are going to put out anything else prior to the season starting in September..

BL.


After last year's flop with the Pursuit and Pursuit-S?  Not likely... though I believe that was more than a month before this release date
Title: Re: The Ebonite Source
Post by: dw23 on May 14, 2013, 08:21:10 PM

I'm really wondering how this compares to the Champion, and also wonder if they are going to put out anything else prior to the season starting in September..

BL.


After last year's flop with the Pursuit and Pursuit-S?  Not likely... though I believe that was more than a month before this release date

The Pursuits were popular with the people I saw throw them. Still see them on ball returns today around my area and thrown with success. I think Ebonite has a Marketing issue. They are not the only company with that issue. Storm is the best at Marketing in the industry today.
Title: Re: The Ebonite Source
Post by: J_Mac on May 14, 2013, 08:54:06 PM
Devon, that's ultimately the point I was trying to make... nothing wrong with the product, just a horrible release time and a wonky marketing scheme.
Title: Re: The Ebonite Source
Post by: cheech on May 14, 2013, 08:55:16 PM
the only pursuits ive seen thrown are the house ball whores who also have a first blood, black nad purple taboos, challenge lucid, and dv8 revenge....etc.
Title: Re: The Ebonite Source
Post by: dw23 on May 14, 2013, 09:01:31 PM
Devon, that's ultimately the point I was trying to make... nothing wrong with the product, just a horrible release time and a wonky marketing scheme.

I agree
Title: Re: The Ebonite Source
Post by: charlest on May 14, 2013, 10:49:16 PM
Just saw the Source on Buddies,
http://www.buddiesproshop.com/p-4443-ebonite-source-bowling-ball-wwrd-61113.aspx (http://www.buddiesproshop.com/p-4443-ebonite-source-bowling-ball-wwrd-61113.aspx)
It's being sold at $119.95, $20 less than the Innovate, and at the Endure/Elevate/Persevere price line. So you get an asymmetric core at a symmetric core price.
Great move, Ebonite!
Title: Re: The Ebonite Source
Post by: Balldoctor on May 15, 2013, 11:42:29 PM
Can't wait. Hopefully they are on the way.
Title: Re: The Ebonite Source
Post by: jasont230 on June 13, 2013, 08:01:00 AM
It looks a lot like the Overseas release Mission XXX. I wonder if XL2000 = GTR3 Pearl.