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Tossed The One
« on: February 03, 2006, 06:08:45 PM »
Today I was pot bowling with some guys from league.  One of the guys buys new stuff weekly it seems.  Storm Paradigm, The One, Vapor Zone, Action....

Our spans were fairly close, so I asked to toss his The One.  It was drilled pin under ring, which makes it about 4 1/2" from my pap, with the mb 1 1/2" right of my thumb.  OOB finish.

I don't see what the fuss is all about.  On carrydown, it didn't do anything.  Skid city, this was after a league got off the lanes.  I used his Vapor Zone, drilled pin next to ring, about 4" from my pap, psa near the val.  The Vapor made The One look flat tame.  

He used it(the one) when the VZ started to overhook.  

On fresh backends, it still didn't hook as much as I thought it would.  

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Re: Tossed The One
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2006, 08:08:30 PM »
You still at RR lanes?  That place hooked a bunch last time I was there.

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Re: Tossed The One
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2006, 11:03:28 PM »
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I jUST THINK YOUR STORY IS FULL OF HOLES YOU MUST BE THE ONLY GUY WHO CAN'T HOOK THIS BALL, I OWN THIS AND A V2 AND THE ONE OUT HOOKS THE V2 BY FIVE BOARDS. THIS ONE IS HOT CAUSE IT WORKS AND FOR SOME REASON YOUR TRYING TO LIE AND HACK ON IT. JUST CALLING YOUR BLUFF, NOW PUT THE BUMPERS BACK UP AND RESUME BOWLING.
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I never said I couldn't hook it, nor did I say it was a bad ball.  I am just not understanding the hype.  I've been looking at it for myself, but just don't have a place for it.  

Secondly, if it outhooks your V2 by 5 boards what does that mean.  Maybe your story is full of holes, I doubt THE One is more aggressive than the v2 even with surface.  The One might have more backend, but outhook it on oil....I doubt it.  

Finally, I never lied about anything.  Read any review I've written, those are facts based on MY game, my THS, in MY center.  If you are too narrow minded to figure out that what works for you may not work for another, then I don't know what to say...  I gave it a fair chance, nothing more and nothing less.  I don't hate Ebonites equipment, but I don't use it either.  My high series is with an Ebonite ball, nothing personal just opinions...

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Re: Tossed The One
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2006, 07:29:11 AM »
You can't seriously believe the v2 sanded is outhooked by the 4000 abralon plus polish the one.  I don't know what I did to you, but whatever...  If you feel the need to verbally bash me thats fine, I've been courteous...

I guess my rampage outhooks my UI....huh?

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Re: Tossed The One
« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2006, 07:34:14 AM »
Agroves,
 Yes I'm still at RR Lanes. The Author is still in the pro shop and doing his usual excellent job. The lack of high scoring isn't his fault,but operator error on my part
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Re: Tossed The One
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2006, 07:10:05 PM »
I love this ball, I have thrown more high series with this ball than any ball before. Everyone should have it. It's awesome.

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Re: Tossed The One
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2006, 11:07:06 PM »
Whatever Chill, your responses have been classless.  Hook ratings mean squat!  Hook ratings on what?  Oil, Dry?  For whom?  Crankers, Tweeners, strokers?  While the v2 might or might not outhook the The One, what does that have to do with the what the topic was started about?  Ebonite has two balls designed for med to heavy oil, one has a hook rating of 26 and one of 40.  If they are both for heavy oil, how can one supposedly be so much stronger than the other.  Honestly?  Wouldn't the lower hook rating be designed for med oil only?

Please see the second sentence again.

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Re: Tossed The One
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2006, 11:28:11 PM »


  He's a douchebag. I have two V2 Powers that outhook my One by a ton. They're not as quick, but they still out hook it. But, what they dont do is out hit. The One powers that pocket like nothing I've seen. Sounds like a crack of thunder going through the pin deck.
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Re: Tossed The One
« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2006, 01:17:16 AM »
I have to agree with agroves on this one.

Since we are talking The One OOB...everyone here seems to agree that despite Ebonite's marketing, this ball is NOT a heavy oil monster.

For me on a fresh THS this ball does nothing but skid.  However, the backend reaction of this ball does still compensate.  But I don't find it surprising that a ball like the Vapor Zone outhooks this ball.  The VZ is one heck of a ball.

Keep in mind that those results were on a fresh shot.

When the shot broke down or I have trouble finding lines, this is where The One really shines.  Keep in mind, this is still in box finish.  With 10 people bowling on a pair playing a similar line, the lane changes real quick, real fast.  This is a variable, alongside the fact the house only oils once a day.  Most of equipment is WAY to strong for this shot.  The One however isn't.  This ball is definitely the "go to" ball in terms of getting a good read on the condtion, finding a line, and finding a consistent ball reaction and breakpoint.  Of all the Storm, Brunswick, Columbia, Roto-Star, etc (I'm a ball freak), this ball is by far my favorite ball for when I need to go fishing for a line (which happens all the time).

If you look at other posts, there have been TONS of love / hate relationships with this ball.  Some love OOB like myself, some make some minor surface changes or re-drills, and unfortunately some have had horrible experiences with this ball.  It's no surprise, just like any pairing in life, you need to have a good match in order to work.

So while agroves results may not be consistent chilli911, I don't think it's fair to practically flame agroves' results.  Ebonite "may" have made a mistake in terms of the ball's overall hook potential, but they sure don't guarantee that everyone will have the same results with the ball.

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Re: Tossed The One
« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2006, 07:47:57 AM »
If we get enough people to complain about him can we vote CHILI off the forum?

He hasn't done anything to me personally, but just from browsing this thread he doesn't seem to be doing anything to add to the community.


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Re: Tossed The One
« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2006, 08:35:11 AM »


   Well, looks like all he can do is click the quote button. Cant write anything on his own. Not surpising, though, based upon the few posts he's made in a thread that disappeared, he hasn't the intelligence to make an insightful or educated post.


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Re: Tossed The One
« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2006, 12:22:54 PM »
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SO WHAT INTELLIGENT THING HAVE YOU POSTED ORKBOY? JUST STATED I THINK ARGROVES STORY IS BUNK, THATS ALL. ALL YOU BOWLING GEEKS GO TILT. MAN I WOULD LOVE TO BOWL YOU GUYS FOR MONEY, A FEW COMMENTS AND I WOULD HAVE YOU OFF YOUR GAME SO BAD. A COUPLE FIST PUMPS AFTER A STRIKE AND YOU BE DOING THE MIKE SCROGGINS HAD SCRATCH.



 I'll give you the same answer here as I did in the thread you deleted because of embarrassment. "This coming from a guy who bowls twice a month and most likely doesnt even own The One or a V2."

  I have two V2s that will outhook my One even at 1000 grit wet sand. And if you don't like that then show us proof to the contrary, ChilliBoy. Or, should I say....Fatguy!!!!
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Re: Tossed The One
« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2006, 03:37:40 PM »
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 i AM SURE YOUR GOOD AT KNOWING WHAT KIND OF BALLS A GUY HAS ORK



  It's easy for a guy like you, who has none.
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Re: Tossed The One
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Re: Tossed The One
« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2006, 06:32:41 PM »


  I am going to refrain from any major comment about The One until I converse with Ebo tech support. I will say this. When I got it 7 or 8 weeks ago it was the best ball I have ever thrown, BAR NONE. That is all i'm going to say right now. A major post about The One may or may not be coming in the near future. We'll see.
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