Author Topic: My total NV....uhhh help (maybe weighthole? (Read 2820 times)

smash8-10split · « **on:** March 05, 2007, 11:03:09 AM »

well. i got this ball drilled with the "long and strong drilling" on the drill sheet, and its anything but.
pin under ring, mb 2 inches right of thumb.
P.A.P is 5 over 1/4 up (i think thats what he told me)

i don't get tons of revs on the ball but i do get enough. i would say in the 250 range. (obvious guess)

well, i got this ball drilled and went out to our fresh house shot the first night. get it left of 10 and it went strait. played up 5 good and it worked well, but still get it left of 10 and it was strait. I started having trouble when they broke down. Real bad over/under

I thought the OOB condition was just TOO shiney with the 4000 plus polish. So i hit it with a grey scotchbrite pad roughly 800 grit, and then hit it with beans "special sauce".

I still get just about the same reaction out of it. After the 1st game i really struggle when they carrydown. I have tried moving target/feet left together, and it still just wants to skate down the lane if i swing it to the right.

the ball now does not have a weighthole. I was wondering if i could throw a weighthole in this thing to make it less over/under for me and open up the lanes more. Because for me this ball is just not as good for me as it is everyone else.

any commits on hole placement would be a great help, or any advice period.

thanks in advance.
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Edited on 3/5/2007 10:04 PM

novawagonmaster · « **Reply #1 on:** March 05, 2007, 07:12:14 PM »

Without seeing the ball I cannot say for sure, but if your MB is that far over, the static weights should be illegal (over 1 oz side weight).
I drilled mine very similar (pin under ring, MB right 45 degrees), but I put a huge weight hole 2" down on my VAL. I also knocked the shine off (wetsand 1500 grit...no polish). I am a little rev-challenged, and this ball is very strong on our medium THS. I will find out Sunday afternoon if it can handle a heavier THS.

Check your weights first (just to make sure you are legal).I would knock the shine off next just to see what it does. Then go for the weight hole (2" down on your VAL as per Ebonite's drill sheet instructions).

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smash8-10split · « **Reply #2 on:** March 05, 2007, 08:08:14 PM »

if it helps the ball has about a 2 1/2 pin, and the box says 3 1/2 oz top wt.

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Greg T · « **Reply #3 on:** March 05, 2007, 08:13:32 PM »

quote:
if it helps the ball has about a 2 1/2 pin, and the box says 3 1/2 oz top wt.

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Are the pin, cg, and MB all in a straight line? Or is the cg off line?? If so, by how much and in what direction?

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Cobalt Bomb · « **Reply #4 on:** March 05, 2007, 08:15:58 PM »

I have found that some people need the ball to "break in", which basically means take the shine off. Try 4000 or 2000 no polish, should still get length, but more control. Try that before drilling any weight holes.

Edited on 3/5/2007 9:13 PM

smash8-10split · « **Reply #5 on:** March 05, 2007, 08:16:32 PM »

the cg is offset about a half to an inch to the LEFT. so the cg is close to strait down from the pin, maybe kicked in a hair.

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smash8-10split · « **Reply #6 on:** March 05, 2007, 08:19:44 PM »

i have 18 games on this ball, just counted.. I think thats long enough for the ball to have the track worn in right? Im bowling on old wood lanes too.

quote:
I have found that some people need the ball to "break in", which basically means take the shine off. Try 4000 or 2000 no polish, should still get length, but more control. Try that before drilling any weight holes.

Edited on 3/5/2007 9:13 PM

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Greg T · « **Reply #7 on:** March 05, 2007, 08:51:54 PM »

With the pin position you have and the MB 2" right of thumb I think you'd better check your static weights. I cant believe anyone would drill without weighing. You may need a hole.

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Greg T · « **Reply #8 on:** March 05, 2007, 09:59:21 PM »

Okay, we're getting there. How far apart are your flare lines at their widest place???

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mrbowlingnut · « **Reply #9 on:** March 05, 2007, 10:40:05 PM »

Check side weight but it might be barely legal with the cg being left, my shop will pick me out cg left if they have more than one in stock. I prefer no weight hole unless last resort, it makes it alot easier to sell it on here to you fine people

Ok now my suggestion take the ball on high speed with a fresh 1000 abrlon pad and then lightly polish this ball with brunswick high gloss. I am 5 1/2 over 3/8 up and about 250 revs area and medium-high ball speed, it made a dog of a ball a keeper. I hated this ball the first two sets i had and came very close to selling it on here, but with this change of surface the ball has woke up and now i can even swing this ball on medium shots.It still needs oil upfront but it was like night and day in reaction difference.

mrbowlingnut · « **Reply #10 on:** March 05, 2007, 10:41:14 PM »

btw my pin is also under ring and mb about an inch right and below my thumb close to your drilling.

scotts33 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 05, 2007, 10:47:17 PM »

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I hated this ball the first two sets i had and came very close to selling it on here, but with this change of surface the ball has woke up and now i can even swing this ball on medium shots.

Ain't that the truth about many balls. I don't think I've left any ball I've bought in the last year in OOB finish.
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Crankenstein300 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 06, 2007, 10:40:45 AM »

That's strange since my TNV is drilled near identical and my PAP is only a 1/4 inch off of yours as far as up. Can't remember the top weight offhand, but mine had the CG shifted left a decent amount, so the 4 1/2 pin to PAP, 45 degree drill on mine put the CG straight down from my pin, which is placed just under the ring. That put it at just over 3/4 positive, so I left it without an X hole. Let it box finish as well.

I am not exactly tearing the cover off the ball, and it lives up to the "long and strong" monikor nicely, albeit maybe a bit too long. I can see yours being over 1 ounce of side, but I can't believe that it alone would make it a dart like that. I would start by getting the statics legal and then work with surface by hitting it with an abralon pad but no polish. Perhaps 2000 will do the trick.

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