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kingpin268

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what's wrong with Ebonite?
« on: October 25, 2004, 10:34:47 AM »
i noticed Ebonite hasn't been too popular lately. i have 4 ebonite and one brunsick UI, and i love ebonite (not that i've bowled with anything else) why do many people stay away from them and what makes the other companies so much better like Brunswick (which i like now), track, storm, and columbia?
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Re: what's wrong with Ebonite?
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2004, 06:59:18 PM »
Cause all the new balls are ugly
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Re: what's wrong with Ebonite?
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2004, 07:02:40 PM »
apex series turned off a lot of people from ebo, dieing/cracking/ugly/etc. coverstocks and the lack of a STRONG resin ball lately

hey ebonite can you get away from the trimax resin(in the v2 series) if you want to make a strong resin ball
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Maelstrom

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Re: what's wrong with Ebonite?
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2004, 08:21:37 PM »
In the begining of this year, the ebonite stuff was not selling so well, but then when the primal instinct and V2 sweet came out, I saw a ton of those and still do. The primal instinct looks like an awesome ball, very smooth and powerful...
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tonybowls

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Re: what's wrong with Ebonite?
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2004, 09:32:38 PM »
Pick up a Prime Time Sanded if you can. It's a great ball.
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rkaycom

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Re: what's wrong with Ebonite?
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2004, 09:47:08 PM »
See the sig... great ball...
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Re: what's wrong with Ebonite?
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2004, 10:13:39 PM »
They used to be quite popular here in England, U.K., esp with their older stuff like the V2 line.

Though now Storm and Brunswick are more mainstream.

I'm not a very good bowler, but the Prime Time I've got is just very flat when it hits the pins.  Loads of 8-10s, and solid 5s.  

Could it be cured by redrilling it?  I don't know, but what I know is my next ball won't be made by Ebonite.
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Re: what's wrong with Ebonite?
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2004, 11:06:47 PM »
Ebonite doesn't have one of the new coverstocks, ie Inferno type, Bully type, Soaker type.  The non particle resin balls which roll like particles were suppossed to .

However they do have a lot of butt ugly looking balls right now.
They've lost Brian (Big Brain ) Pursel and Mika.

BUT, I've never been real fond of them but right now my best ball every day is a new to me V2 pearl.  I liked it so much HERE where I've moved to that I just had a backup come in!  

I've also seen some V2 Cleans around here which really look great on the rack and on the lanes!

I like the cleanliness of their coverstocks on the thinner oil patterns I see around here!

Tracks got their hot morpheous and now morpheous rev blocks and then there are MO's core over at Morich!!.  

Everybody's got something HOT right now except Ebonite!

But their stuff is good!  Just not great looking and not leading Edge in general.

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rkaycom

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Re: what's wrong with Ebonite?
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2004, 11:33:44 PM »
They shouldn't have cut the Oytpx, TPC and Apex lines...
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Re: what's wrong with Ebonite?
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2004, 02:13:13 PM »
There is nothing wrong with ebonite. I have shot plenty of good scores and series with them. I had a chance to bowl with almost every ebonite ball since 1998 and never had a problem with any of them.
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rkaycom

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Re: what's wrong with Ebonite?
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2004, 07:02:47 PM »
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The smoothly strong v2Strong/r is much stronger than their previous oilers but still MUCH less than a Rule, UI, Animal, Total Ann., XXXtreme etc.


Explain this then, I have a UI and my Savage Flip out hooks it, and its drilled for lenght!

EDIT: Ummm... What the hell? Why did my post end up half way in the topic and not the end? DAMN YOU BALLREVIEW!!!
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charlest

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Re: what's wrong with Ebonite?
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2004, 08:26:43 PM »
Their basic dull and pearl resin are as good as anyone's:
V2 Sanded, V2 Sweet, Showtime Sanded, Showtime Pearl, Tornado.

All are high RG Differential balls; so, they are very adaptable to many various drillings. Their covers are also easily modified.

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The V2's are already legendary, literally, ranking with the Danger Zone in any regular bowler's mind. If you can't make a V2 Sanded work and work well, with minor surface changes and good driller's drilling, on anything from medium-light to medium-heavy oil patterns, you should quit bowling.

Bowlers are as fickle as women buying clothes. If it's new and promises something special, we will buy it in a New York minute and dessert our tried and true balls. (I am as guilty of that as anyone here.)
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And I currently do not have a single Ebonite ball in my possession, except for an archaic Panther. That implies how easy it is to defend such an apparently unpopular (here at ballreviews, anyway) company.
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Re: what's wrong with Ebonite?
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2004, 09:01:10 PM »


i've had good success with the v2 strong...one of the top two balls i've ever thrown.


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Re: what's wrong with Ebonite?
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2004, 09:24:24 PM »
I bowled in a tournament with a guy about two weeks ago who had shot a 867 (house record) with a Killer Instinct.  Same house we were bowling in.

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stanski

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Re: what's wrong with Ebonite?
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2004, 10:55:29 PM »
They do not advertise their balls correctly is the only problem i see with them. "crappy" covers in most peoples view, bad colors, overused cores, overused covers, advertising balls for wrong purposes (killer instinct, v2 dry, v2 strong). All they need to do is come out with trimax under a new fancy shmancy name, put a new fancy shmancy core in it, with a fancy shmancy name and color combination, and advertise it a lot, and they will have a good selling ball. Most people don't know chemistry, so if you tell them the composition of the cover is different, the person will sure as hell believe its different. release the trimax under a new name, with a new core, and advertise it as new technology, even though its practically the same as the v2, and it will sell.
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