Post by: Gixer on January 17, 2009, 09:01:18 PM
Post by: dave300 on January 18, 2009, 08:41:14 AM
Post by: Gazoo on January 18, 2009, 08:46:46 AM
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Post by: Brickguy221 on January 18, 2009, 10:26:42 AM
However, I purchased both the Gamemaker & Playmaker a little over 3 months ago and love them both. This makes me want to think that the V2 Core must match up to my style really well as it seems to give me the looks that works best for me.
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Post by: sammy on January 18, 2009, 10:31:47 AM
Post by: Zack Pelton300 on January 18, 2009, 01:38:13 PM
Sometimes most people are not willing to adopt change to their game so they automatically blame the company. No one is perfect. Some peoples games do not roll well for certain companies.
I pretty much through all hammer before I signed with ebonite, and it was not a good transition. But I got through it. I had to do some different layouts then im use to, change up surface etc.
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Post by: KingofKings696 on January 18, 2009, 02:07:31 PM
Post by: Necromancer on January 18, 2009, 02:41:14 PM
Overall, Ebonite produces way too many mediocre balls and never does research to produce anything decent.
P.S. Entire NV series sucks except the limited edition original NV which sells for $500 on bowlingball.com LOL.
P.S.S. Name the last time Ebonite won on tour. Even Tommy Jones couldn't win with the One Pearl. LOL.
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H: Brunswick Fury, Columbia 300 EPX T1
M-H: Storm Shift Gravity, Hammer Black Widow
M: Storm X-Factor Vertigo
M-L: Storm Recharge
S: Viz-A-Ball White
Bench: Brunswick Target Spare Zone, Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
GEMS: Brunswick Quantum Helix, Brunswick Quantum Double Helix
2008-09 Year 215.000 2008-09 Tourney 177.360 Last Tourney 182.667
2006-07 League Champions, Southern Comfort Winner
2007-08 League Champions
2008-09 Three-Peat???, Courvoisier Winner
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Resolution 2009's Greatest Show on Wood
Post by: mainzer on January 18, 2009, 03:10:36 PM
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then their is no death,
and if their is no death,
we do not live''
Progressive Metal Band
EVERGREY
MainzerPower
Post by: cheech on January 18, 2009, 06:50:49 PM
GB 10.7 cover
their benchmark and some higher performance balls are very good. ex. gamerbreaker, the one, total nv, pin slasher,
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HS:792(SR300)778(SR300)778(SR300/Dr.Jekyll)
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2007 NYSPHSAA individual high game(300) and series(1411-6 games)
arsenal: rival arch rival dead flush blue vibe scout SR300 plastic
on the way maybe the sauce or momentum swing.
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Post by: mmcfarland300 on January 19, 2009, 08:10:27 AM
quote:
Ebonite has sucked overall with except to Matrix, V2, and One series. Actually in the One series, the only ball that is good is the original. Click my sig for pics of what happens to the One though after you strike a lot - ball split in half and is now sniffing the roses in my mom's yard (I dump balls in the yard for decoration LOL).
Overall, Ebonite produces way too many mediocre balls and never does research to produce anything decent.
P.S. Entire NV series sucks except the limited edition original NV which sells for $500 on bowlingball.com LOL.
P.S.S. Name the last time Ebonite won on tour. Even Tommy Jones couldn't win with the One Pearl. LOL.
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Current Arsenal Gallery (http://"http://s132.photobucket.com/albums/q21/mikecart1/Bowling%20Arsenal/")
H: Brunswick Fury, Columbia 300 EPX T1
M-H: Storm Shift Gravity, Hammer Black Widow
M: Storm X-Factor Vertigo
M-L: Storm Recharge
S: Viz-A-Ball White
Bench: Brunswick Target Spare Zone, Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
GEMS: Brunswick Quantum Helix, Brunswick Quantum Double Helix
2008-09 Year 215.000 2008-09 Tourney 177.360 Last Tourney 182.667
2006-07 League Champions, Southern Comfort Winner
2007-08 League Champions
2008-09 Three-Peat???, Courvoisier Winner
Hall of Fame BR Member Since: April 3, 2001
Resolution 2009's Greatest Show on Wood
This must mean that Ebo is the best company on the market.
Post by: mmcfarland300 on January 19, 2009, 08:17:05 AM
Ebo Angular One = Good length ridiculous back end
Ebo GameBreaker = Good Midlane great carry huge back end move
C300 Reurgence = Great Heavy Oiler
C300 Noize = Good midlane move solid continuation and finish
Hammer The Sauce = Great Midlane good back end move
These are the balls I have thrown from the Ebo plant and I haven't had reaction loss nor have I beed disappointed with them. Some have required additional maintenance to keep clean due to the "soaker" covers but they work well for me.
Post by: Necromancer on January 19, 2009, 08:51:03 AM
Also, I'm not alone. Many people in leagues and tournaments I have seen are going away from Ebonite. They know what I know. They produce way too many balls with little to no research on how to improve. Basically they are making the same stuff but with different colors.
If we are going by current today, Ebonite hasn't won on TV in awhile.
Post by: SleepOnIce on January 19, 2009, 08:58:08 AM
However, you having one ball split in half definitely means the entire company is terrible. Hell, they should just go bankrupt and hand the company over to you.
To which I'm sure you'll reply "I'd do a better job researching than they do" and we'll all reply "please stfu".
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Post by: boomtown24 on January 19, 2009, 09:15:21 AM
proof please, I want to see where EBO never does any research.
Post by: nextbowler on January 19, 2009, 09:28:54 AM
Hammer and Track--all Ebonite umbrella companies. There were a total of
20 different balls to throw. I threw 4 different Ebonite balls and not one
of them matched up well for me. Several other balls worked great. Even
though all were owned by the same company, Ebonite was by far the worst. I
have not had an Ebonite ball for several years as at one time 4 of them died
on me at about 60 games and could not be brought back. At that time I said
I would not buy Ebonite for awhile. Still will not.
Post by: mmcfarland300 on January 19, 2009, 09:29:15 AM
Edited on 1/19/2009 10:29 AM
Post by: Necromancer on January 19, 2009, 09:29:15 AM
quote:
Nercomancer wrote: "Overall, Ebonite produces way too many mediocre balls and never does research to produce anything decent."
proof please, I want to see where EBO never does any research.
If they do do research, then that is even a bigger insult to them as a company LOL.
Anyways, if Ebonite is listening, your best bet is to use Differentiation as your company strategy for the time being. In order to do this, stop creating new junk, but re-release your best balls. I guarantee those that even buy balls - those that are into bowling, will scoop them up with a quickness.
Re-release the Matrix series and V2 series and watch your sales climb to new heights.
Your NV series was a disaster. I remember Patrick Allen using the NV ball when it came out. LOL at what he bowls with now. LOL at how many times he is on TV now too.
Post by: mmcfarland300 on January 19, 2009, 09:44:56 AM
Post by: SleepOnIce on January 19, 2009, 09:45:52 AM
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BLARGH
Edited on 1/19/2009 10:46 AM
Post by: mmcfarland300 on January 19, 2009, 09:47:04 AM
Post by: Necromancer on January 19, 2009, 11:22:39 AM
quote:
No he wouldn't because he is too busy making up new things about himself too FIGJAM about to actually look at facts.
Actually I do know but I am not talking about the game and play makers. Those use two different balls to make 1. I want the original V2's. Not the new ones with that 10.7 coverstock. Trust me I know more about Ebonite than you could ever imagine. I used to bowl with nothing but Ebonite. Then I became smart and switched to the champs - Storm.
P.S. I gave my V2 Afterburner away for $5. That's how much I feel their balls are worth hehe.!!
Post by: mainzer on January 19, 2009, 12:00:30 PM
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''If their is a life after death,
then their is no death,
and if their is no death,
we do not live''
Progressive Metal Band
EVERGREY
MainzerPower
Post by: Necromancer on January 19, 2009, 12:14:25 PM
quote:
Necro if were going to use champs equipment then you should go and use MoRich!
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then their is no death,
and if their is no death,
we do not live''
Progressive Metal Band
EVERGREY
MainzerPower
So I can leave 8-10's?
Post by: Razr on January 19, 2009, 12:21:39 PM
NV series has been junk..but I really like most of their mid-range balls. The raid was pretty nice, and the playmaker has been my favorite ball of all time, I own 2 in fact..always my go-to ball when nothing works because I know it will come through and strike..
their striking motion was garbage IMO to btw..
so it's not that they are a bad company, but they have some hits and misses, most of the hits are their mid range balls though, i think..
Post by: mmcfarland300 on January 19, 2009, 01:26:35 PM
quote:
Ebonite is pretty hit or miss at times..
NV series has been junk..but I really like most of their mid-range balls. The raid was pretty nice, and the playmaker has been my favorite ball of all time, I own 2 in fact..always my go-to ball when nothing works because I know it will come through and strike..
their striking motion was garbage IMO to btw..
so it's not that they are a bad company, but they have some hits and misses, most of the hits are their mid range balls though, i think..
IMO all companies have a hit or miss selection because no ball is going to work for everyone. As previously said there are alot of peolpe who would disagree with your feelings towards the NV line.
Post by: Razr on January 19, 2009, 01:36:45 PM
quote:quote:
Ebonite is pretty hit or miss at times..
NV series has been junk..but I really like most of their mid-range balls. The raid was pretty nice, and the playmaker has been my favorite ball of all time, I own 2 in fact..always my go-to ball when nothing works because I know it will come through and strike..
their striking motion was garbage IMO to btw..
so it's not that they are a bad company, but they have some hits and misses, most of the hits are their mid range balls though, i think..
IMO all companies have a hit or miss selection because no ball is going to work for everyone. As previously said there are alot of peolpe who would disagree with your feelings towards the NV line.
True, but I'm not bashing too much on the NV line because they were still good rolling balls, but I found them to be pretty condition specific. They were hook monsters at first, and my old Total NV still was, but it just didn't hit right and rolled weird.. the NVS was the same, and the complete NV was the most impressive until it died on me..didn't even bother with the NVD..and there are still others I'm sure who would disagree about that line and others who would agree.
so you see, I just personally was never impressed with any of the NV's for more then a few weeks..but for the lower stuff like raid, clash, bash, current V2's I would choose over most.
And it's also true that all companies have their mess up's and only some balls seem to work for certain styles..because the entire widow line aside from the original was also worthless for me, every single one flipped and rolled out..for me that is..and actually almost every hammer ball won't work for me anymore either now a days..but I'm not bashing them because I've seen others score very well with them..
Nothing against ebonite or anything but I feel as if all of their higher performance line balls are a joke for me. I throw what works though, not the name/brand name engraved on the ball..
Edited on 1/19/2009 2:39 PM
Post by: Necromancer on January 19, 2009, 01:45:32 PM
quote:quote:quote:
Ebonite is pretty hit or miss at times..
NV series has been junk..but I really like most of their mid-range balls. The raid was pretty nice, and the playmaker has been my favorite ball of all time, I own 2 in fact..always my go-to ball when nothing works because I know it will come through and strike..
their striking motion was garbage IMO to btw..
so it's not that they are a bad company, but they have some hits and misses, most of the hits are their mid range balls though, i think..
IMO all companies have a hit or miss selection because no ball is going to work for everyone. As previously said there are alot of peolpe who would disagree with your feelings towards the NV line.
True, but I'm not bashing too much on the NV line because they were still good rolling balls, but I found them to be pretty condition specific. They were hook monsters at first, and my old Total NV still was, but it just didn't hit right and rolled weird.. the NVS was the same, and the complete NV was the most impressive until it died on me..didn't even bother with the NVD..and there are still others I'm sure who would disagree about that line and others who would agree.
so you see, I just personally was never impressed with any of the NV's for more then a few weeks..but for the lower stuff like raid, clash, bash, current V2's I would choose over most.
And it's also true that all companies have their mess up's and only some balls seem to work for certain styles..because the entire widow line aside from the original was also worthless for me, every single one flipped and rolled out..for me that is..and actually almost every hammer ball won't work for me anymore either now a days..but I'm not bashing them because I've seen others score very well with them..
Nothing against ebonite or anything but I feel as if all of their higher performance line balls are a joke for me. I throw what works though, not the name/brand name engraved on the ball..
Edited on 1/19/2009 2:39 PM
Agreed. Also as for the NV line, I have been to some tournaments where they would give the ball with the tournament fee and many people would use the NV's during the tournament. Keep in mind, the oil was very heavy. The NV's, thrown by some high rev players, would just slide out and many went into the gutter several times - no exaggeration. I was at the time interested in the NV's as well. I then heard similar stuff from other bowlers about their dissastifaction with the NV's.
As for Widow's, I somewhat agree which is why I didn't get the other Widow's. 2 guys in my league have the pearl version and it just hits awful.
When comparing today's top balls by company, I would place Ebonite near last. Their playmaker and gamebreaker might be decent but only because they are using their past successful balls.
Here are companies that I think are better than Ebonite's best:
-Storm
-Rotogrip
-Hammer
-Brunswick
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Somewhere down the end Ebonite is near C300.
Post by: mmcfarland300 on January 19, 2009, 02:19:26 PM
Post by: DP3 on January 19, 2009, 02:39:15 PM
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Post by: Drillmn300 on January 19, 2009, 02:41:12 PM
Bring back the V2 core was another great move with the Playmaker and Pin Slasher the mid range is one of the hottest sellers.
Ebonite is back
Buy and support American made products!
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Post by: DP3 on January 19, 2009, 02:45:11 PM
The #1 thing I've learned at nearly 10 years at this profession is ... "It's never the bowler's fault". Never.
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Post by: Spider Ball Bowler on January 19, 2009, 02:52:50 PM
quote:
Very nice post. I find it amazing at how many players say "x-ball is a bad ball" yet as soon as they step into a pro shop they tell the driller to "drill it for maximum hook" then when they get their 3 3/8"ths stack, step out on their low volume 37ft THS, and try to freespin it right and see no recovery all of a sudden it's the "companys" fault because they didn't develop a ball that you can "stack out" and cover up all of their inconsistancies.
The #1 thing I've learned at nearly 10 years at this profession is ... "It's never the bowler's fault". Never.
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-DJ Marshall
...The Twelve In a Row Pro Shop. AMF Bowie Lanes -- Bowie, MD
Edited on 1/19/2009 3:46 PM
Oh how right you are.
If people just realized what their games are all about, and the lane conditions they're competing on, they could get away with low to mid range balls and score better more often. Oh yea and save money too!
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Ahhh Disco Biscuits!
Post by: Razr on January 19, 2009, 03:02:10 PM
Oh how right you are.
If people just realized what their games are all about, and the lane conditions they're competing on, they could get away with low to mid range balls and score better more often. Oh yea and save money too!
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True statement..
hehe, I got away with a 650 with a jazz the other day on a med/heavy shot.
Love that ball.
But I know for a fact now that it's not about hooking the ball anymore, playing straighter will carry much better than going coast to coast..
even for me though with my higher rev rate, I haven't found much use for a hook monster unless the lanes are flooded, so rarely will I use a ball like that..regular THS houses around here I use all mid-range medium balls or lower end dry lane stuff even..
Post by: Gixer on January 19, 2009, 05:30:21 PM
Post by: ambi1 on January 19, 2009, 10:08:58 PM
quote:
Ebonite has sucked overall with except to Matrix, V2, and One series. Actually in the One series, the only ball that is good is the original. Click my sig for pics of what happens to the One though after you strike a lot - ball split in half and is now sniffing the roses in my mom's yard (I dump balls in the yard for decoration LOL).
Overall, Ebonite produces way too many mediocre balls and never does research to produce anything decent.
P.S. Entire NV series sucks except the limited edition original NV which sells for $500 on bowlingball.com LOL.
P.S.S. Name the last time Ebonite won on tour. Even Tommy Jones couldn't win with the One Pearl. LOL.
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H: Brunswick Fury, Columbia 300 EPX T1
M-H: Storm Shift Gravity, Hammer Black Widow
M: Storm X-Factor Vertigo
M-L: Storm Recharge
S: Viz-A-Ball White
Bench: Brunswick Target Spare Zone, Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
GEMS: Brunswick Quantum Helix, Brunswick Quantum Double Helix
2008-09 Year 215.000 2008-09 Tourney 177.360 Last Tourney 182.667
2006-07 League Champions, Southern Comfort Winner
2007-08 League Champions
2008-09 Three-Peat???, Courvoisier Winner
Hall of Fame BR Member Since: April 3, 2001
Resolution 2009's Greatest Show on Wood
And here I thought it was the bowler doing the winning .... silly me.
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Post by: themachine300 on January 20, 2009, 10:57:49 AM
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Move left, hook it more.....
Tommy Jones and Kenny Simard are Gamecock fans...are you???
We shall now refer a 4-bagger as a hambone...Mark it down the revolution has started!
Post by: jls on January 20, 2009, 04:46:24 PM
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He doesn't have much experience with anything except for running his mouth on bowling related topics he knows nothing about. It's pretty amusing. Everyday I have something to LMAO at while at work because it's so off base from reality and he believes every bit of it.
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...The Twelve In a Row Pro Shop. AMF Bowie Lanes -- Bowie, MD
Storm is doing well, the Gravity and the Virtual have been good sellers.
Roto has done very well with the Cells.
Hammer is Ebonite!!!!!! Hello anybody home?
Now Ebonite is doing great with mid price and entry level balls.
Columbia has had a very good run with the Resurgence and the Momentum.
And some of their mid price balls.
Brunswick, wait, I am trying to think of a model that sells. give me some time and I am sure I will be able to think of one. Hey, the Rattler, sold one today, the first day they were in the shop!!!!!! wow
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Post by: Stan on January 20, 2009, 04:58:54 PM
"There are no bad balls, just bad bowlers"
Post by: ambi1 on January 21, 2009, 10:04:54 PM
quote:
If it has not been said, then here it is:
"There are no bad balls, just bad bowlers"
so true... but combininig all the brands together, there has been probably one or two that were really, shall we say "underperformers".
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Post by: dolbydigital on January 23, 2009, 02:49:43 AM
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What's so great about Ebonite? They're not Lane #1.
well whats so good about Lane #1 then?
not trying to do any Lane #1 bashing but than just cant stand people bashing others
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my current arsenal....
secret agent
power agent (int'l)
shift
attitude shift
gravity shift
surefire
spitfire
tropical storm
jolt solid
storm spare x 2
thunderstruck pearl
street rod solid
street rod pearl
dimension
perfect dimension (int'l)
rapid fire pearl
fired up II
phase (int'l)
hot shot
BOWL UP A STORM
www.bandofbowlers.sg
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Post by: ekster on January 23, 2009, 04:13:01 AM
Not throwing any of the four umbrella brands, I can't comment on individual reactions, but it seems like the line between Ebonite and Columbia is becoming blurry, with regard to brand characteristics. Track is still the cutting-edge technology brand. Hammer still seems to carve out a niche with our area bowlers.
Bottom line is (and not just with Ebonite) ...
There are just too many D@MN balls coming out that don't really have that different a reaction or character as those that are out there now. My thanks to those companies (too few) that take it easy on new releases.
I used to be able to keep up with them all, but now it is almost impossible.
Just my opinion and not the opinion of anyone I might be associated with or anything I might be associated with.
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Post by: stopncrank on January 23, 2009, 04:57:01 AM
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Post by: jbruno6 on January 23, 2009, 06:25:15 AM
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Post by: cosmo on January 23, 2009, 12:43:05 PM
quote:
Last month I was at a very large demo day that featured Ebonite, Columbia,
Hammer and Track--all Ebonite umbrella companies. There were a total of
20 different balls to throw. I threw 4 different Ebonite balls and not one
of them matched up well for me. Several other balls worked great. Even
though all were owned by the same company, Ebonite was by far the worst. I
have not had an Ebonite ball for several years as at one time 4 of them died
on me at about 60 games and could not be brought back. At that time I said
I would not buy Ebonite for awhile. Still will not.
I had basically the same experience at a recent demo day. None of the Ebos (or Track) that I threw impressed me at all yet the Hammer stuff was very good as was some of of the Columbia. Alot of people in my area love the big E, yet for me the Gamebreaker is the only one worth a damn.
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Post by: dolbydigital on January 23, 2009, 03:16:20 PM
quote:quote:
well whats so good about Lane #1 then?
not trying to do any Lane #1 bashing but than just cant stand people bashing others
There's really nothing THAT good about Lane #1, that was my original point I was making in my response to the question posed by the OP. I have no problem with the equipment Lane #1 makes, my problems are A) Their marketing techniques and deception, and B) The Lane #1 fanboys. They bow down at the alter of Richie the Great, and whatever he says is gospel. Richie could send out a newsletter tomorrow saying that hexagons are a better carrying core shape than diamonds, and the fanboys would all line up for a whole new Lane #1 arsenal and sell off their old "saws" for about $400 each (they're all gems, you know). Let me explain in detail so you can see where I am coming from:
You have seen the typical Lane #1 fanboy in your league, there are plenty of them roaming around. He's the one who thinks he is a THS god, but couldn't hit 140 on a sport shot, yet he doesn't worry about that because he stays away from those tournaments and conditions like they're the plague. He will be wearing some form of Lane #1 gear, usually a flaming collared shirt or a t-shirt with some retarded Lane #1 slogan on it. He sprays the ball all over the place like he's applying a base coat of house primer with a Wagner Power Painter, but he'll tell you he was splitting boards all night if you ask him. The dude couldn't split arrows, never mind boards, on the lane. If he shoots big, you'll know all about it, he'll make sure of that, and if he bowls terrible he'll leave so fast you'll swear he teleported out to his car. He will come over and explain in detail which "saw" he used each game to "cut 'em down with" and explain to you that you need to switch to Lane #1 also. If you don't, then you're missing out on the scoring gravy train son. Every one of these guys think they are a reincarnation of Rudy Revs or Kelly Coffman, too bad "stand left - throw right" is all you need to do on a THS anyway. Lastly, no matter what night of the week they bowl on, if they shot a huge number, it was always on a night where the house was playing "tough" for everyone, as if to say that they're superior equipment and bowling knowledge were enough to overcome even the toughest of shots (even though there were probably 10 other guys who shot 750 plus for the night). Do you know these guys? I bet you do.
These type of guys think that Lane #1 is the SOLE reason their average went up 10 sticks. Never mind the fact that ANY new ball they would have bought would have jumped them up that much over the 20 year old U-Dot they were using. The group thinking is scary with these fellows, and if you see one, don't try to rehabilitate him, just walk away. If he's spewing the Lane #1 mantra about 20% better carry, or how diamonds are the ultimate core shape, or how more 800's and 300's are bowled with Lane #1 equipment than anyone else, it is already too late to save him. Just don't let yourself get sucked in too, buy equipment based on informed decisions, product information, and your past experiences with a certain company's equipment. Pretty pathetic, huh? You're welcome, no thanks are required.
To stay on topic, the Gamebreaker is a GREAT piece of equipment.
thanks for enlightening me on that.
well over here at our part of the globe we do not have that many a Lane #1 bowlers as the equipment is around 100 bucks more than the other brand of balls(comparing the high end ball prices that is )
and well,after reading what you posted its kinda true,those pple i see bowling exclusive Lane #1 balls at my side here seem to be kinda coc*y and arroga*t...
anyways thats besides the point.
back to Ebo.
i have a raid cos i am fascinated with the Y core and it is a great piece of equipment,nvr like the NV series though.
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my current arsenal....
secret agent
power agent (int'l)
shift
attitude shift
gravity shift
surefire
spitfire
tropical storm
jolt solid
storm spare x 2
thunderstruck pearl
street rod solid
street rod pearl
dimension
perfect dimension (int'l)
rapid fire pearl
fired up II
phase (int'l)
hot shot
BOWL UP A STORM
www.bandofbowlers.sg
Post by: master_shake on January 30, 2009, 03:43:26 AM
I might buy another Ebonite ball but would stay away from Brunswick. I got the impression that Brunswick Mass Produces Balls. I remember K-Mart having the Headhunter ball by Brunswick. The best ball they had which was just a Urethane Ball. It has a skull on it and stuff. Just go to their website they have 5 different levels of performance. The groove urethane, affordable performance, advanced performance, high performance and pro performance. Plus between 5 different categories they have 14 balls total. I mean do you need the Twisted Fury, Twisted Fury Solid, and Twisted Fury Destruction?
Post by: ambi1 on February 04, 2009, 08:25:30 PM
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gamebreaker and playmaker are the best one two punch on the market right now IMO. Im just a fan of the core and cover but they are both just great bowling balls. have had no dying whatsoever, I say get them and try them out, you wont be sorry.
Add the PINSLASHER and bring along some abralon pads and you are ready for just about anything.
As for dying, I still have to see anyball die, carry percentage goes down. But some of the complaints of having the ball died down to become a spare ball is just too unbelievable.
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Post by: jls on February 05, 2009, 05:07:05 PM
This could be the ball that rivals the Cells!!!!!
May be the "Ball of the Year"
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Post by: MikeIII on February 05, 2009, 07:20:02 PM