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Title: why was the striking motion a dud??
Post by: Aloarjr810 on March 16, 2009, 01:10:08 AM: I just recently got a striking motion (Posted a Review) and I thought it was a ok ball.

My Review Here (http://"http://www.ballreviews.com/Reviews/Reviews.asp?BallID=933&ManufacterID=5&ReviewID=30855")

I got this reply in another forum

Not trying to be a jerk, but this ball is discontinued now. If you liked it you can bye them cheap. My distributor is selling the for a very cheap price. All companies have a swing and miss. I think this was a big swing and miss for Ebonite.

I had all ready knew of the little interest everyone had in this ball.

But what was so bad about it that no one wanted it? was it just too ordinary? too strong? too weak? etc.

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Title: Re: why was the striking motion a dud??
Post by: jbuzz31 on March 16, 2009, 10:07:18 AM: bad name, bad marketing, lackluster color scheme so there was no shelf appeal. and the only time i saw one on t.v was when Shannon Pluhoskey was using it as a SPARE ball.
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Title: Re: why was the striking motion a dud??
Post by: Dan Belcher on March 16, 2009, 10:17:45 AM: I despised the ball when I threw it at a Demo Day. Even with a weak drill (based on my PAP, it was just a pin-over-bridge layout) and a pretty smooth surface, the ball seemed to burn up the second it found friction, yet it also somehow managed to slide through oil and never really roll up through that either. Even moving six or seven boards right of where I was with the Pin Slasher (a very, very good ball, for what it's worth), the Striking Motion still left the flattest 10 pins you've ever seen in your life.
Title: Re: why was the striking motion a dud??
Post by: leftyinsnellville on March 16, 2009, 10:21:17 AM: quote:
bad name, bad marketing, lackluster color scheme so there was no shelf appeal. and the only time i saw one on t.v was when Shannon Pluhoskey was using it as a SPARE ball.

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Title: Re: why was the striking motion a dud??
Post by: TheDude on March 16, 2009, 10:36:55 AM: quote:
bad name, bad marketing, lackluster color scheme so there was no shelf appeal. and the only time i saw one on t.v was when Shannon Pluhoskey was using it as a SPARE ball.
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Title: Re: why was the striking motion a dud??
Post by: erider on March 16, 2009, 11:26:07 AM: I love this ball, drilled with
morich dual thumb, shot 804 with it, you are right, it does not hook a bunch.
Title: Re: why was the striking motion a dud??
Post by: LaneHammer20 on March 16, 2009, 12:03:56 PM: @ of my teamates in evansville have one, and to me it looks like a good ball. ! guy is a tweener and the other is a power stroker, and they both carry the house with it.
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Title: Re: why was the striking motion a dud??
Post by: Aloarjr810 on March 16, 2009, 05:10:49 PM: quote:
My opinion is that it was marked at a high price and it did not hook out the door. The average bowler wants to see hook at that price point. It doesn't seem to be a bad ball however.

Well that's what I thought was the problem. Since I didn't see any reviews that said it hooked so hard it cut a doughnut half way down the lane before it struck the pins.

Looks like just a good ball, their cheap now. Might be worth a second look.

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Edited on 3/16/2009 5:13 PM
Title: Re: why was the striking motion a dud??
Post by: EboHammer on March 16, 2009, 09:18:33 PM: quote:
bad name, bad marketing, lackluster color scheme so there was no shelf appeal. and the only time i saw one on t.v was when Shannon Pluhoskey was using it as a SPARE ball.
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I am still not trying to be a jerk (yes it was me on the other site).
But, I think the quoted response sums it up pretty well. I do like Ebonite products and the company in general, just called it like I seen it on this ball.
Title: Re: why was the striking motion a dud??
Post by: jls on March 17, 2009, 10:38:51 AM: Well the Striking Motion is now on closeout.
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Title: Re: why was the striking motion a dud??
Post by: Aloarjr810 on March 17, 2009, 10:30:32 PM: Well as a follow up I used this in our city tournament.after 9 games I shot 1802 scratch. I don't know just what the pattern was, it pretty flat. cashed in singles.

over the coarse of the tourn. I went from 9 to 13 at the arrows, out to about 5. if you look at the btm issue for this ball jan. 09,pg 26, in their ball tracking test results section. I was playing the same areas as the stroker and tweener in the chart.

And for league tonite i had a 654, the thing I'm seeing with this ball is control. It is very predictable, yes it's not hook monster. But it was hard hitting and carried the ten pin well.

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Title: Re: why was the striking motion a dud??
Post by: EboHammer on March 17, 2009, 11:37:21 PM: quote:
Well as a follow up I used this in our city tournament.after 9 games I shot 1802 scratch. I don't know just what the pattern was, it pretty flat. cashed in singles.

over the coarse of the tourn. I went from 9 to 13 at the arrows, out to about 5. if you look at the btm issue for this ball jan. 09,pg 26, in their ball tracking test results section. I was playing the same areas as the stroker and tweener in the chart.

And for league tonite i had a 654, the thing I'm seeing with this ball is control. It is very predictable, yes it's not hook monster. But it was hard hitting and carried the ten pin well.

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Title: Re: why was the striking motion a dud??
Post by: Bowler19 on March 19, 2009, 07:12:47 PM: Is this a confirmed discontinue or rumor. I am not trying to point fingers at rumor making but it is just that the ball is fairly new on the market.
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Title: Re: why was the striking motion a dud??
Post by: themachine300 on March 19, 2009, 07:49:26 PM: Yeah its done, I guess lack of sales and dissapointing feedback from bowlers lead to it getting axed. In other words....it sucked
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Title: Re: why was the striking motion a dud??
Post by: PLM on March 19, 2009, 07:59:24 PM: For what it is worth...
From what I saw in the video on Ebonite's website, the ball did not seem to finish very hard. If you are looking for a ball to use in specific conditions (extreme wet/dry maybe), it looks like it might be a good choice. This makes it a ball with a limited use, or at least it would be so for me.
Title: Re: why was the striking motion a dud??
Post by: jls on March 24, 2009, 01:23:29 PM: quote:
Is this a confirmed discontinue or rumor. I am not trying to point fingers at rumor making but it is just that the ball is fairly new on the market.
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Located inside Pont Mercier Lanes.
Edmonton, Alberta.
Located inside Ed's Rec Room.(WEST ED MALL)
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No, we have bought the ball at a special closeout price.

Nice deal!!!!!

BTW, if you take the cover down to 2000, the ball works better for most bowlers with less hand. Those with hand, we add polish.
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Title: Re: why was the striking motion a dud??
Post by: jls on March 24, 2009, 01:48:11 PM: Why a dud?

Well lets look at the specs:

2.56 RG
.040 diff
19 of 50... early roll???
med - heavy oil.....
OOB 4000 A-pad

Now to me, this ball has length with a smooth backend reaction. I certainly would not refer to it as a Med - heavy oil ball.

I would refer to it, in the box finish as more of a light -med oil ball, best used on clean backends.

Now I can see why if some bowlers bought this thinking it was an oil monster, why they would not be please.

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Title: Re: why was the striking motion a dud??
Post by: EboHammer on March 25, 2009, 12:28:45 AM: I am wondering why my replies in this thread have disappeared?
Title: Re: why was the striking motion a dud??
Post by: jls on March 25, 2009, 09:03:08 AM: quote:
I am wondering why my replies in this thread have disappeared?

WOOOOO IT'S MAGIC
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Title: Re: why was the striking motion a dud??
Post by: Dave_in_Rio_Rancho on March 25, 2009, 03:24:14 PM: My general impression was that it was like the Hammer No Mercy with a different coverstock. Ebonite's statement that it has their most durable coverstock ever leads one to assume a harder surface (less hook). The color was not it's best feature but since I liked my old Brunswick Fuze Eliminator I didn't really dislike it but wondered what the Pro Shop operators thought of it setting on the shelf. Whatever condition is was designed for seems to exist in Japan as it is very popular there. For me, it overlapped equipment I already owned: I have a go to control ball already. I agree with previous posts that it was introduced at the wrong price point. Many of the kids I bowl with like huge hooks even if they are looking at artwork all night. They really need a go to control ball, everyone does - LOL

Edited on 3/25/2009 3:32 PM

Edited on 3/25/2009 3:35 PM
Title: Re: why was the striking motion a dud??
Post by: Fatboy8 on March 29, 2009, 10:06:38 AM: I just recently got one, and it's a great ball. It's my first Ebonite since the Overtime, which I loved.

I'm hoping for great things from it, and so far so good. I'm sure it'll be high maintence like all my other Hammer stuff, but should be worth it.
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Title: Re: why was the striking motion a dud??
Post by: Contude on April 02, 2009, 02:29:52 PM: I have owned this ball for about 2 months and have to say that is does hit like a truck and carries quite a bit. Making a 2-3 board mistake either way is not the end of the world because it knows how to hold nicely and recover. The key to its demise is something that was said earlier in this thread which is carry down. This ball loses ALL of its power when there is oil in the heads and burns up to leave very weak hits. This ball needs an area of dry to work but definitely hits the wall early in the night.
Title: Re: why was the striking motion a dud??
Post by: qstick777 on April 21, 2009, 09:49:05 PM: Surprising to see all the comments that the ball is not a hook monster.

When looking at the manufacturer's promo material:

quote:
The Striking Motion from Ebonite, a high performance ball featuring a Flat Iron Asymmetric Core and new Super Shell 1.0 Coverstock that helps the ball cut tightly through heavy lane oil. Weâ€™ve also designed the Striking Motion to create more overall hook than any ball weâ€™ve ever made, making it intense, just like your game.

MORE HOOK THAN ANY BALL THEY'VE EVER MADE!

Don't believe the hype!

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