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Title: Got my Elite Black today
Post by: mrbowlingnut on January 31, 2008, 05:16:35 AM
I just got the ball they have blacked out the logos and the pin, so it is all black in color kind of funny looking. So do not waste your time by more than one unless you do not mind the all black ball.

I cannot find the reason for any blem on the specs, maybe there was an engraving error under all that black stuff on the logos hahaha

So once in awhile i read about guys wanting a ball without any logos so buy this one on the pilot program and you will be happy. Going to drill to pin under 4 1/2 x 4 1/2 it has no marked mass bias.

Edited on 1/31/2008 2:16 PM
Title: Re: Got my Elite Black today
Post by: mrbowlingnut on February 01, 2008, 11:22:36 AM
Found the blem when dropping it off at the drillers so be careful, the ball is undersized by about an 1/8 of an inch or so.

Oh well it might still work well just might miss an extra swpare or so ever 5-10 games hahahaa
Title: Re: Got my Elite Black today
Post by: revTrex on February 01, 2008, 11:24:07 AM
Ebonite did a study that a small ball is actually better in terms of carry...maybe that's the strategy...


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Title: Re: Got my Elite Black today
Post by: bigb4life on February 01, 2008, 09:13:55 PM
How can someone sell an undersized ball. Thats BS IMO. I would be demanding my money back. If its undersized i would want to be the guy getting ball calls at the center when you use it.
Title: Re: Got my Elite Black today
Post by: DukeHarding on February 01, 2008, 09:31:20 PM
Some of the old pros (1940s-50) used undersized balls...better carry.
Ball hit lower on the pin, and helped the pin go sideways on the deck...which increased pin contact.
A pin flying horizontally, hits more pins than a vertically flying pin.
At least, that's what I was told back in the '60s by some of the older, better bowlers.

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Title: Re: Got my Elite Black today
Post by: revTrex on February 01, 2008, 09:37:23 PM
^^^ I was serious about the Ebonite study.
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Title: Re: Got my Elite Black today
Post by: lsf_21 on February 01, 2008, 09:54:14 PM
isnt it illegal to sell an illegal ball as a legal ball?
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Title: Re: Got my Elite Black today
Post by: WSUstroker on February 01, 2008, 10:25:31 PM
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isnt it illegal to sell an illegal ball as a legal ball?
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Title: Re: Got my Elite Black today
Post by: REvans284 on February 01, 2008, 10:26:36 PM
I don't know about the illegal stuff... But Brian Voss was/is? on staff with Elite, and I remember from somewhere there was a discussion and talk with him about multi colors on a bowling ball.  He hated it because he said it made it difficult for him to see/get a good read on what the ball was doing on the lane so he carried around about every color you could buy in Sharpies, and he blacked out the logos and stuff on all his bowling equipment.  If he is still on Elite Staff, I'd say this ball was a favor to him.

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Title: Re: Got my Elite Black today
Post by: lsf_21 on February 01, 2008, 10:31:57 PM
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isnt it illegal to sell an illegal ball as a legal ball?
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its to small, or can a ball be to small it just cant be to big?
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Title: Re: Got my Elite Black today
Post by: Juggernaut on February 01, 2008, 10:34:09 PM
quote:
I don't know about the illegal stuff... But Brian Voss was/is? on staff with Elite, and I remember from somewhere there was a discussion and talk with him about multi colors on a bowling ball.  He hated it because he said it made it difficult for him to see/get a good read on what the ball was doing on the lane so he carried around about every color you could buy in Sharpies, and he blacked out the logos and stuff on all his bowling equipment.  If he is still on Elite Staff, I'd say this ball was a favor to him.

Later,

REvans284


  That's odd, for me it is just the opposite.  I like the swirls and logos on the ball because they help me see the transition phases of the ball through the lane as it makes its path to the pindeck.  I can tell when the skid is over and the roll has begun.
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Title: Re: Got my Elite Black today
Post by: Long Roller on February 06, 2008, 08:52:57 PM
quote:
I just got the ball they have blacked out the logos and the pin, so it is all black in color kind of funny looking. So do not waste your time by more than one unless you do not mind the all black ball.

I cannot find the reason for any blem on the specs, maybe there was an engraving error under all that black stuff on the logos hahaha

So once in awhile i read about guys wanting a ball without any logos so buy this one on the pilot program and you will be happy. Going to drill to pin under 4 1/2 x 4 1/2 it has no marked mass bias.

Edited on 1/31/2008 2:16 PM


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Title: Re: Got my Elite Black today
Post by: scotts33 on February 06, 2008, 09:16:33 PM
FYI all........

USBC Specs
"Circumference and Diameter:
A bowling ball shall not have a circumference of more
than 27.002 inches (diameter of 8.595 inches) nor less
than 26.704 inches (diameter of 8.500 inches)."
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Title: Re: Got my Elite Black today
Post by: MI 2 AZ on February 06, 2008, 10:29:45 PM
quote:
USBC Specs
"Circumference and Diameter:
A bowling ball shall not have a circumference of more
than 27.002 inches (diameter of 8.595 inches) nor less
than 26.704 inches (diameter of 8.500 inches)."
 


My memory may be faulty, but I think that is why the Brunswick 8583 came out.  It was at least 8.583 and they also had a ring in the proshops to measure the ball with.
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Title: Re: Got my Elite Black today
Post by: mrbowlingnut on February 07, 2008, 12:04:00 PM
I am guessing on the 1/8 th of an inch but you can see with the ring around the ball a pretty good size gap, i think 1/16 th would be much tighter looking than the gap he showed me with the ring.

Edited on 2/7/2008 1:04 PM
Title: Re: Got my Elite Black today
Post by: scotts33 on February 07, 2008, 12:56:54 PM
Barry will rememeber that the Yeah Baby he sold me was too small and slide thru the go no-go rings of my driller and LM/L being the great company that they are replaced it.
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Title: Re: Got my Elite Black today
Post by: uberamd on February 11, 2008, 07:21:43 AM
I just got my Black Label drilled up saturday, and I completely love the ball. It hits harder and moves better than my Black Widow Solid. Amazing ball for the price. As a low rev lefty stroker, its hard to find balls you can throw out and have them come into the pocket hard.
Title: Re: Got my Elite Black today
Post by: Strapper_Squared on February 12, 2008, 10:20:23 AM
Well, providing the weather doesn't delay FedEx again, mine should be here today..meaning that I can drill it up and throw it tonight (Cheetah pattern) and tomorrow night (house shot) during leagues..  Should be able to post some photos and give an idea of how the ball reacts then...  Looking forward to it.

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Title: Re: Got my Elite Black today
Post by: uberamd on February 12, 2008, 12:38:30 PM
I average 140 in league, I threw the Elite Black yesterday, and got:
216, 170, 169: 185 avg 555 series. The ball was amazing, it hit like a bazooka, blew the pins away, left a few 7's but that was my fault and one 7 10 on a perfect hit, which was shocking. However overall it amazed me.

I used my Microfiber Oil Absorbing towel between each frame to wipe the track and flare marks clean and it worked the entire time. The first game and a half I threw second dot second arrow and allowed the backend to carry it into the pocket, the last game and a half the lanes broke down a bit, I stood center dot, threw over the second arrow, and she came back nicely. I made some dumb mistakes, but averaging 45 over my league average on the year is good in my opinion.

I also clean it with Ebonite Powerhouse Energizer between each series. My ball is more of a dark dark blue, and not so much of a black, but at any rate, I LOVE this ball.

Not to mention the 40% off gift card and $20 gift card you get. 40% off means another elite ball at an insanely low price if you wish to use it on that. The Elite Black Label is better for me than my Black Widow Solid, without a doubt.