BallReviews

Equipment Boards => Faball => Topic started by: splitcity on October 30, 2021, 06:34:37 PM

Title: Green fab pearl hammer?
Post by: splitcity on October 30, 2021, 06:34:37 PM
Hello just wondering if anyone knows when the green pearl fab hammer was made? I have one and have never seen one. Thanks
Title: Re: Green fab pearl hammer?
Post by: kiefenstien on October 31, 2021, 07:20:27 AM
I found this old topic.

https://www.ballreviews.com/faball/faball-green-hammer/
Title: Re: Green fab pearl hammer?
Post by: splitcity on October 31, 2021, 01:50:56 PM
Thank you I really appreciate this it looks like I have something rare!
Title: Re: Green fab pearl hammer?
Post by: jimjames on October 31, 2021, 04:00:57 PM
 ??? www.ballreviews.com/faball/faball-hammer-dark-greena/  ???
Title: Re: Green fab pearl hammer?
Post by: splitcity on November 03, 2021, 09:27:50 AM
here is the ball for sale if anyone is interested

https://www.ebay.com/itm/255209128893
Title: Re: Green fab pearl hammer?
Post by: jimjames on November 03, 2021, 10:30:58 AM
here is the ball for sale if anyone is interested

https://www.ebay.com/itm/255209128893
It definitely needs some love.  :o
Title: Re: Green fab pearl hammer?
Post by: Gene J Kanak on November 03, 2021, 10:45:31 AM
Has anyone ever gotten an answer (from old Fab contacts or otherwise) as to whether or not this was actually meant to be a green pearl? I ask because my gut tells me this was a blue pearl that has just really changed color a lot over the years the same way the dull blue solid hammers always did.
Title: Re: Green fab pearl hammer?
Post by: bradl on November 03, 2021, 02:55:20 PM
Has anyone ever gotten an answer (from old Fab contacts or otherwise) as to whether or not this was actually meant to be a green pearl? I ask because my gut tells me this was a blue pearl that has just really changed color a lot over the years the same way the dull blue solid hammers always did.

I dunno.. looking at the pictures in the auction, that is a definite deep emerald-type green, and nothing that looks like a discolored blue pearl. And correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears to be a Baltimore pour, right?

BL.
Title: Re: Green fab pearl hammer?
Post by: splitcity on November 03, 2021, 06:47:35 PM
Yes it is most def green. I’ve tried to be objective about it and consider that it could’ve been blue and change color overtime but it just looks solid green. Thanks for keeping the discussion going I’m really intrigued by this myself
Title: Re: Green fab pearl hammer?
Post by: Gene J Kanak on November 04, 2021, 11:37:40 AM
It certainly looks green. Again though, most people don't realize just how blue the dull blue solid Hammer was out of the box because so many of them greened up so much over time. If you want an example, check out the video of Del Ballard's unfortunate 10th-frame gutter ball. The blue Hammer he was using was SO much bluer than just about any dull blue I remember.

Anyhow, I don't know what to think. Obviously, we know that Hammer never released a green pearl Hammer to the public, at least not in the U.S. Could it be an overseas ball? Maybe, but I have no idea how common overseas releases were back then. It could have been a special edition ball for a certain tournament or something, but then I would've thought we would've seen/heard of them before now.

At the end of the day, my gut still tells me that it's a blue pearl that drastically changed color over the years, but we may never know. In any event, it would be fun to get it, resurface it, polish it up, and have a very unique ball sitting around.
Title: Re: Green fab pearl hammer?
Post by: noslouch on November 04, 2021, 05:28:01 PM
That ball is most definitely an emerald pearl green. I have seen solid black hammers turn blueish green and blue hammers turn a greenish color over time. I would be very hard pressed to believe that a pearl blue hammer could turn emerald pearl green. It would've taken the same amount of catalyst in a solid to turn color. Not so in urethane pearls. Pearls still had a blend of polyester that made them just as susceptible to being as brittle as a poly ball.
Title: Re: Green fab pearl hammer?
Post by: splitcity on November 05, 2021, 02:53:14 PM
Yes I agree with you on it definitely being green and seemingly green from the beginning. I thought about keeping it and trying to use it but I thought I would test the market first in an auction. I thought about sending a message directly to the company but they’re not even in business anymore correct?
Title: Re: Green fab pearl hammer?
Post by: bradl on November 05, 2021, 05:11:18 PM
Yes I agree with you on it definitely being green and seemingly green from the beginning. I thought about keeping it and trying to use it but I thought I would test the market first in an auction. I thought about sending a message directly to the company but they’re not even in business anymore correct?

No. Faball went out of business in... 2002 IIRC. That was when Ebonite went on a shopping spree bought the Hammer brand from Faball, then bought Columbia300; and by extension, Track.

BL.
Title: Re: Green fab pearl hammer?
Post by: Juggernaut on November 06, 2021, 10:42:33 AM
 It might, and I mean MIGHT, be one of the few that were made specially for Wayne Webb.

I have heard rumors that, back in the day when Wayne was still throwing a lot of Hammer stuff, that they made a few for him in a special run that were green, as his nickname was The Mean Green Machine (evidently, he really likes green).

 NEVER heard of a green PEARL though. Thought they had all been solids…….?
Title: Re: Green fab pearl hammer?
Post by: splitcity on November 08, 2021, 09:44:33 PM
Thanks for all the input. So if it’s not a Wayne Webb ball then what’s the other option? Oversees ball?? Is there any help in the serial number on the ball?
Title: Re: Green fab pearl hammer?
Post by: itsallaboutme on November 09, 2021, 06:42:14 AM
Gene is correct.  That ball started as a blue pearl that turned green.  It's not the first one to do that.  Most of the ones you find are not easily recognizable as blue pearl.  And almost all the solid blues you find have turned a dark teal.
Title: Re: Green fab pearl hammer?
Post by: splitcity on November 09, 2021, 06:05:28 PM
Well I am not saying its impossible but usually with color conversion you would think that it would have a blend to it. this looks deep emerald green throughout. I am hoping to find some info or sell it to someone who knows the origins. 
Title: Re: Green fab pearl hammer?
Post by: itsallaboutme on November 10, 2021, 05:11:00 AM
You got some info but refuse to believe it.  What you have can be found in many bowling centers sitting on ball racks now used as a house ball.
Title: Re: Green fab pearl hammer?
Post by: MI 2 AZ on April 24, 2024, 02:15:36 PM
Warning:  Troll post by Liafkowski28.  ?? 




I have heard that trolls will sometimes reply to an old topic that hasn't had posts in a long time and then go back later and edit their post to add what they really want to post.  That way it can slip by the mods.


There is a new poster who has posted twice and both times basically copied the post of a well-known member here.



dougb

    Hero Member
    *****
    Posts: 1551
        View Profile   Personal Message (Offline)

Re: Red Pearl Hammer info.
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2019, 17:11:10 »

    Quote

Those balls were both marked as seconds because they were pin out.  A lot has progressed since the 90s in our understanding of layouts.  Faball labeled any ball with a pin outside of that circle was as a second.


Liafkowski28

    Newbie
    *
    Posts: 2
        View Profile   Personal Message (Offline)

Re: Red Pearl Hammer info.
« Reply #8 on: Today at 02:54:50 »

    Quote

Both of those balls were marked as seconds because they had a pin out. Our understanding of layouts has progressed significantly since the 90s. Faball designated any ball with a pin outside of that circle as a second.



And then here:



Gene J Kanak

    Hero Member
    *****
    Posts: 3005
        View Profile   Personal Message (Offline)

Re: Green fab pearl hammer?
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2021, 10:45:31 »

    Quote

Has anyone ever gotten an answer (from old Fab contacts or otherwise) as to whether or not this was actually meant to be a green pearl? I ask because my gut tells me this was a blue pearl that has just really changed color a lot over the years the same way the dull blue solid hammers always did.



Liafkowski28

    Newbie
    *
    Posts: 2
        View Profile   Personal Message (Offline)

Re: Green fab pearl hammer?
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2024, 05:32:01 »

    Quote

Has anyone received a definitive answer (from old Fab contacts or otherwise) regarding whether this was originally intended to be a green pearl? I'm asking because my instinct suggests that it might have been a blue pearl that has significantly changed color over the years, similar to how the dull blue solid hammers tended to do.
« Last Edit: April 15, 2024, 02:28:49 by Liafkowski28 »


You can see in this last example on his post, that he has gone back to edit it and looks like added a link.  I am not going to click on it because I don't want to get something onto my computer that I can't get rid of.  It may be something innocent but why go to all the subterfuge for something unless it is not innocent?


If I am wrong, I will delete this post and apologize to him.  Please let me know.


Title: Re: Green fab pearl hammer?
Post by: TWOHAND834 on April 24, 2024, 02:32:13 PM
Warning:  Troll post by Liafkowski28.  ??  Looks like he copied Gene Kanak's post #6, then edited it later to add a link.  I am not clicking on it to find out what it is.


_______________


Gene J Kanak
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 3005
View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Re: Green fab pearl hammer?
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2021, 10:45:31 »
Quote
Has anyone ever gotten an answer (from old Fab contacts or otherwise) as to whether or not this was actually meant to be a green pearl? I ask because my gut tells me this was a blue pearl that has just really changed color a lot over the years the same way the dull blue solid hammers always did.



Liafkowski28
Newbie
*
Posts: 2
View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Re: Green fab pearl hammer?
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2024, 05:32:01 »
Quote
Has anyone received a definitive answer (from old Fab contacts or otherwise) regarding whether this was originally intended to be a green pearl? I'm asking because my instinct suggests that it might have been a blue pearl that has significantly changed color over the years, similar to how the dull blue solid hammers tended to do.
« Last Edit: April 15, 2024, 02:28:49 by Liafkowski28 »


If you hover over the word "this"; at the bottom of the screen it says pinkgame.com.  Uh....no thank you.