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For Sale/For Trade/Want to Buy => General FS/FT/WTB => Topic started by: pin-chaser on August 22, 2008, 04:45:23 PM
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I am attempting a new strategy for bowling ball sales. The concept is Cost + with an emphasis on quantity sales. Additionally, I will only charge my actual shipping cost and provide inexpensive drilling fees.
I dont intend to compete in quantity with Buddies online services. But I will be lower than them all. The goal is to provide the lowest cost period and provide only top quality (no factory 2nds) and service on a limited scale. Hopefully in the neighborhood of 20-30 balls per month.
My goal is not to replace my good paying job but to provide extra income for me and my son to use as entry fees for tournaments where we hope to convert it into some profit.
So here goes:
Drilling: $15.00
Drilling with Slug and Inserts: $25.00
(I am not selling Slugs and Inserts otherwise)
1 Ball = Cost + 20%
2 or 3 Balls = Cost + 18%
4 Balls (case) = Cost + 15%
Larger Quantities Discount upon request
Here is my initial Ball Offering to test the concept:
Maker Name Weight Top Pin Cost
1. Hammer Black Widow 15 03 3.00 2-3 96.00 See Actual Ball (http://"http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq114/bowlingknowledge/IHBW15033002-3.jpg")
2. Hammer Black Widow Perl 15 02 3.25 2-3 104.00 See Actual Ball (http://"http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq114/bowlingknowledge/HBWPerl15023252-3.jpg")
3. Hammer Black Window Bite 15 00 3.00 2-3 104.00 See Actual Ball (http://"http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq114/bowlingknowledge/HBWBite15003002-3.jpg") SOLD Shane300
4. Hammer Black Window Venom 15 02 2.00 2-3 97.00 See Actual Ball (http://"http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq114/bowlingknowledge/HBWVenom1502002-3.jpg") SOLD - Shane300
5. Track Up Rising 15 02 2.25 3-4 83.00 See Actual Ball (http://"http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq114/bowlingknowledge/TUPRising15022253-4.jpg") SOLD - Bowl-2-win
6. Track Tantrum 15 01 4.75 2-3 63.00 See Actual Ball (http://"http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq114/bowlingknowledge/TTantrum1014752-3.jpg")
7. Track Kinetic Energy 15 03 2.25 2-3 79.00 See Actual Ball (http://"http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq114/bowlingknowledge/TKinEnergy15032252-3.jpg") SOLD - SHANE300
8. Track Kinetic Perl 15 03 2.75 3-4 75.00 See Actual Ball (http://"http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq114/bowlingknowledge /TKinPerl15032753-4.jpg") SOLD - Bowl-2-win
9. Columbia Jazz 15 02 2.50 3-4 56.00 See Actual Ball (http://"http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq114/bowlingknowledge/CJazz15022503-4.jpg")
10.Columbia Momentum Swing 15 02 2.75 2-3 96.00 See Actual Ball (http://"http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq114/bowlingknowledge/CMomSwing15022752-3.jpg") SOLD - EJ300
11.Columbia Arch Rival 15 03 3.00 4-5 72.00 See Actual Ball (http://"http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq114/bowlingknowledge/CArchRival15033004-5.jpg") SHIPPING - ERICFLO
12.Columbia Noize 15 02 2.50 2-3 70.00 See Actual Ball (http://"http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq114/bowlingknowledge/CNoize15022502-3.jpg") SOLD - EJ300
13.Hammer Psycho 15 00 3.50 3-4 87.00 See Actual Ball (http://"http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq114/bowlingknowledge/HPsycho15003503-4.jpg")
14.Hammer Vibe Emerald 15 04 2.75 2-3 75.00 See Actual Ball (http://"http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq114/bowlingknowledge/HEmVibe15-42752-3.jpg") SOLD Proshopkid
15.Hammer Black Widow Venom 15 03 2.50 2-3 97.00 See Actual Ball (http://"http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq114/bowlingknowledge/HBWVenom15032502-3.jpg")
16.Hammer Black Widow Bite 15 03 3.50 3-4 104.00 See Actual Ball (http://"http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq114/bowlingknowledge/HBWBite15033503-4.jpg")
17.Ebonite The One 15 02 1.75 2-3 98.00 See Actual Ball (http://"http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq114/bowlingknowledge/EOne15021752-3.jpg")
18.Ebonite Clash 15 03 2.75 2-3 75.00 See Actual Ball (http://"http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq114/bowlingknowledge/EClash15032752-3.jpg")
19.Ebonite Playmaker 15 02 2.75 3-4 77.00 See Actual Ball (http://"http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq114/bowlingknowledge/EPlay15022753-4.jpg")
20.Ebonite NVD 15 03 1.50 4-5 108.00 See Actual Ball (http://"http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq114/bowlingknowledge/ENVD15031504-5.jpg") SOLD - PINCHASER
As you can see, some manufactures provide greater profit margins than others. If you are interested, please send email to:
BowlingKnowledge (http://"mailto:bowlingknowledge@live.com")
If you want drilling services you will need to provide your spec's including your PAP and layouts.
Additionally, I will need your complete shipping address including phone to provide accurate shipping prices. I use Fedex to ship as I have a a good discount with them.
I prefer PayPal transactions.
Thanks for your consideration
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Edited on 9/9/2008 3:38 PM
Edited on 9/9/2008 4:54 PM
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those are some good prices.
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What is the zip you are shipping from?
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Id like to know who your distributor is. Alot of those costs are cheaper than ours
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"USBC is concerned that technology has overtaken player skill in determining success in the sport of bowling"
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Shipping from 38125
My distributors are not associated to the PBA.
I simply am passing along the pricing that I am receiving.
Thanks for the interest as I am overwhelmed at the moment keeping up with the emails. Keep your eyes on this thread as I will be modifying with SOLD and New items.
For items that do not sell in a reasonable time, I will be placing on EBAY at very special pricing to liquidate focusing on products that will sell.
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I sent you an email
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Is your posted price the "cost" on the ball, or does it already include your 20% markup?
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All prices listed at my cost. Please add the percentage and shipping.
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los2003,
I responded.
Thanks for your interest.
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What's that white paint mark looking thing on the balls?
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It is his flash from the camera.
No there's like a white paint mark on the balls on the top right side.
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Its just a light from the ceiling in the room
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This is a nice concept and I wish you the best, but why does every shop guy in the world feel they need to "give" it away? Obviously you are drilling out of your home and most likely don't have much over head. I used to be in the ball business and I always "valued" my skill and knowledge I shared with my customers and always charged for that knowledge. I opened my doors to make a profit and not just to break even.
Good luck!
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THB
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Looks like paint...not hard to remove tho. A little ascetone would do the trick.
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Yeah I understand it's easy to get off, but I'm curious as to how it got on most of the balls in the same general area?
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Looks more like a reflection from a computer screen to me, not paint.
After further review, I still don't think it is paint, but some kind of reflection. It is too consistent ball to ball. Never know till you see the ball though.
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Edited on 8/27/2008 10:58 PM
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ALL BALLS are in perfect condition. The spots seen are indeed from flash flare. I will attempt to take better pictures in the future.
As for why I want to "give things away"... I dont. I want to make any drilling charge and 15-20% of the cost of the ball. I figure that if the bottom line is I am cheaper by ~$25 per ball (with shipping) maybe I would get some business since I am new without much of a reputation. I am not trying to make anything more than a couple hundred per month. I am no threat to other online vendors as I am not taking orders and stocking (many balls) or drop shipping. I am not a threat to local shops because I am not stealing there drilling or other inventory and sales and the soft skills of a salesman and coaching.
As for my drilling skills, I can hit the lines like everyone. I am not figuring out the grip for the bowler, I am not determining axis point, I am not recommending a layout and I am not responsible for providing a certain reaction with the ball. I simply am drawing the lines where the bowlers tell me and punching some holes. And absolutely, I am drilling from my garage, not that anyone I have sold a ball to yet has asked for the service yet. So even at my prices it seems a wasted effort to offer. So yes, my overhead is nothing... albeit a lot of work answering questions.
Thanks everyone for your interest. Keep an eye on this as I update the status and add more balls when I get them in. Yes other manufacturers are coming slow but sure (they are already on order... Brunswick, Storm and Roto are next.
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Will there ever be any 14lbers in the future? Or strictly 15lbs?
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Home of the Secret Sauce!
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Balls shipped out monday and were here today. Couldent have asked for a better transaction. I will deff. be buying from him again! Balls were perfect and the specs are great. Great Seller!
Heres a link for pics of the two balls:
http://s201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/bowl-2-win/Track%20Balls/
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link for some pics of my arsenal:
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Message sent.
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http://BeansProShop.com
Home of the Secret Sauce!
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Check your mail..I responded.
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bump for a good guy
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Message sent!
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Thanks for all the interest and emails. It sure is nice to be in contact with so many great people and bowlers!!!
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Any 14lbers
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shane300,
I knew you liked silver... so I got that one special for you!!! ROFMALO
thanks for the nice comments.
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Sent e mail 2 days ago, no answer yet.
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Enjoy the people on the ballreview.com forum. Like to help when I can.
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pnj,
Dont know what happened. Where did you send it? I dont recalling seeing it as I try to respond to everyone.
Sorry, please resend.
Thanks
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Sent a PM to you this time. Sent the e mail to the link you have in your posting.
BowlingKnowledge
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pnj,
Dont know what happened. Where did you send it? I dont recalling seeing it as I try to respond to everyone.
Sorry, please resend.
Thanks
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Edited on 9/2/2008 12:38 PM
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responded.
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bump
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Sent Question on Widow.
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Lefty... responded
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were these the packages direct from the factory??? seems i paid a little less for those so its not really "cost" now is it??
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Here is ericflo's Arch Rival:
Arch Rival 1 (http://"http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq114/bowlingknowledge/arch%20rival/IMG_0041.jpg")
Arch Rival 2 (http://"http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq114/bowlingknowledge/arch%20rival/IMG_0042.jpg")
Arch Rival 3 (http://"http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq114/bowlingknowledge/arch%20rival/IMG_0043.jpg")
Arch Rival 4 (http://"http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq114/bowlingknowledge/arch%20rival/IMG_0044.jpg")
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Edited on 9/9/2008 5:47 PM
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Just recieved the NOIZE thanks again
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thank you so much for everything one of the best transactions i have ever done prices are great shipping is the cheapest i have ever paid communication is prompt and thorough. i will definitely be doing business with again thank you so much again tom.....thanks eric
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you drilled ericflo's rival??? Looks like you did a good job
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Thanks... I think he liked it.
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Are these all for sale still?
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Morich???
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all these balls still sale or available??
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pm sent, payment sent
waiting for respone
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Edited on 11/5/2008 3:59 PM
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how much is the shipping
would love to take the jazz off your hands
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how much is the shipping
would love to take the jazz off your hands
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just wanted to tell you that
I already pay for the Jazz , but I've got nothing.
he didn't sent me any tracking number or any comfirmation at all
he said he was gonna shipped on monday but now he keep slipping up everyday .
And I send a message to him , it takes him about 2-3 days to response back, and everytime he reply back there always excuse why the shipping delay.
so if you gonna order from him , just becareful
for all you guy that have a good transaction with him, you are lucky
but for me I guess I'm not lucky with this guy.
i'm still waiting for his respone about my C300 JAZZ
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Sorry
I paid him on Oct 30th .... Not Wednesday 5th Nov
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dude, you paid for the ball on WEDNESDAY. if he told you he's going to ship it on MONDAY, you have no complaint as today is SATURDAY. how can he give you a tracking number on SATURDAY for something he said he'll ship on MONDAY.
BR isn't somebody's life. people work and have families. give him a chance before you start bashing someone.
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how much is the shipping
would love to take the jazz off your hands
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just wanted to tell you that
I already pay for the Jazz , but I've got nothing.
he didn't sent me any tracking number or any comfirmation at all
he said he was gonna shipped on monday but now he keep slipping up everyday .
And I send a message to him , it takes him about 2-3 days to response back, and everytime he reply back there always excuse why the shipping delay.
so if you gonna order from him , just becareful
for all you guy that have a good transaction with him, you are lucky
but for me I guess I'm not lucky with this guy.
i'm still waiting for his respone about my C300 JAZZ
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id love to buy a Nsane LevRg from u if u get one in?
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I think I understand what u wanna tell me and I know pin-chaser is a good guy and has good feedback
I just worry about it too much because I really need the ball before my fright
Thank u for your suggestion
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dunno what to tell you then. i've been on here for a long time and i've never heard any complaints about pin chaser. i'm sure you'll get your stuff. try contacting him again.
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Sorry
I paid him on Oct 30th .... Not Wednesday 5th Nov
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dude, you paid for the ball on WEDNESDAY. if he told you he's going to ship it on MONDAY, you have no complaint as today is SATURDAY. how can he give you a tracking number on SATURDAY for something he said he'll ship on MONDAY.
BR isn't somebody's life. people work and have families. give him a chance before you start bashing someone.
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how much is the shipping
would love to take the jazz off your hands
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Pikeville College Men's Bowling Team 2008
j_w_king@hotmail.com
just wanted to tell you that
I already pay for the Jazz , but I've got nothing.
he didn't sent me any tracking number or any comfirmation at all
he said he was gonna shipped on monday but now he keep slipping up everyday .
And I send a message to him , it takes him about 2-3 days to response back, and everytime he reply back there always excuse why the shipping delay.
so if you gonna order from him , just becareful
for all you guy that have a good transaction with him, you are lucky
but for me I guess I'm not lucky with this guy.
i'm still waiting for his respone about my C300 JAZZ
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www.sweeteethai.com
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Formerly HammerBowler
One half of the Tag-Team Internet Ownage Champions
¡Viva la Nación de Brunswick!
BR.com search hack: http://www.bowling-info.com/Search.html
My Statistics (updated weekly)
http://www.bowlspot.com/share/qc1HKm85stat273
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www.sweeteethai.com
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Formerly HammerBowler
One half of the Tag-Team Internet Ownage Champions
¡Viva la Nación de Brunswick!
BR.com search hack: http://www.bowling-info.com/Search.html
My Statistics (updated weekly)
http://www.bowlspot.com/share/qc1HKm85stat273
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