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For Sale/For Trade/Want to Buy => General FS/FT/WTB => Topic started by: legend4life95 on May 15, 2005, 02:31:07 PM

Title: Danny Wiseman selling some of his equipment...
Post by: legend4life95 on May 15, 2005, 02:31:07 PM
Hes got some D/T,columbia and brunswick balls for sale. Click on " view sellers other items" below his feedback to see everything.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20848&item=7156727428&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW


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Title: Re: Danny Wiseman selling some of his equipment...
Post by: Nollster on May 17, 2005, 07:33:36 AM
Bought a Retro Roto Blue from him in September -- great guy!!
Title: Re: Danny Wiseman selling some of his equipment...
Post by: DP3 on May 17, 2005, 12:32:08 PM
Living in MD(as does Danny) shipping can be up to $24 is you're shipping to the West coast, some parts of Texas, and the Northwest, and Northern Midwest via UPS and up to 17-18 via Fed-Ex.  There's no use charging around 15 bucks and having the potential to lose up to 7 or 8 bucks if you're shipping anywhere west of Michigan, especially if the ball you sold only amounted up to about 20-25 bucks.
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Title: Re: Danny Wiseman selling some of his equipment...
Post by: BeansProShop on May 17, 2005, 02:24:02 PM
I have bowlked with DW and sold him balls as well. He is a great down to earth dude that talks to everyone....A real class act. Beans
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Title: Re: Danny Wiseman selling some of his equipment...
Post by: legend4life95 on May 17, 2005, 03:15:24 PM
The way I look at it is...You see the shipping charges before you bid. Just add that to your max. bid. If the shipping is 20 and you're not willing to spend more than $50, then don't bid more than $30. You're not getting ripped off with people charging high ship rates, unless you overbid what the total is worth. Shipping from NC to anywhere in the North West area runs me $21-$25 for a ball.

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Title: Re: Danny Wiseman selling some of his equipment...
Post by: applegam on May 17, 2005, 03:24:39 PM
I agree.  You need to look at the total dollar amount for the transaction.  Who cares how it's broken down?  Paying $10 for a ball and $50 for shipping is no different then paying $50 for a ball and $10 for shipping.  You are still out $60 either way, so what's the big deal?
Title: Re: Danny Wiseman selling some of his equipment...
Post by: Umungus on May 17, 2005, 09:32:31 PM
There is an in-state dealer who sells on Ebay. I asked him if I could get a better rate on shipping because I was so close and actual shipping was around $10.00 bucks. He said no, that $20.00 was his fixed shipping charge. His damn ball is still for sell on Ebay.

20.00 bucks to ship a ball is really high.

You can ship an 18lb package from Baltimore, Maryland 21204 to Seattle, Washington 98110 for $15.34.

Where does it cost to ship a ball for $20.00 bucks?

Donald

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Title: Re: Danny Wiseman selling some of his equipment...
Post by: stanski on May 17, 2005, 09:43:16 PM
The reason we all gouge on shipping on ebay is to avoid giving money over to ebay. The more we charge for shipping, the less we're handing over to ebay.
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Title: Re: Danny Wiseman selling some of his equipment...
Post by: legend4life95 on May 17, 2005, 09:59:13 PM
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Where does it cost to ship a ball for $20.00 bucks?



Here you go... this is from one of my receipts at the time it cost me $23.66 but now its $22.70. Go to UPS website and do a 16# package measurements are 10x10x10 from 27803(NC) to 98295(WA). Cost is $22.70

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Title: Re: Danny Wiseman selling some of his equipment...
Post by: legend4life95 on May 17, 2005, 10:02:47 PM
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That is completely rediculous.  If YOU choose to sell on there it is your fault that you have to pay Ebay.

You should have enough common decency to only charge what the actual shipping is.  

If you gouge the buyer on shipping so you can make an extra buck, you are a thief.

PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

Bash and flame me if you want to, but if you take exception to my thief comment and you are one of those people doing the gouging, you are only showing your true colors and proving my point as being true.






Its not being a theif. Example: If I have a V2 for sale and I posted it here for $50 shipped, what is the difference if I were to put it on ebay for "buy it now" of $25 and $25 for shipping? There is no difference. You're gonna pay $50 for it either way.

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Title: Re: Danny Wiseman selling some of his equipment...
Post by: sdbowler on May 17, 2005, 10:04:16 PM
Shipping from So Dak to Alabama is very expensive and so is the other way. I have spent my fair share to UPS for shipping. So yes shipping can be very expensive.
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Title: Re: Danny Wiseman selling some of his equipment...
Post by: legend4life95 on May 17, 2005, 10:15:21 PM
Buy it now is not any different than a traditional auction. The bidder should pre-determine what the ball is worth before bidding. If $50 is all the ball is worth to you, then don't bid over that $25 max. If someone out bids your max. then the ball must be worth more to them than you. In that case, let them take it. I just dont see the big deal. I have sold a few balls on ebay and some I have charged $20 for shipping and some $17, but like I said...I have had to pay  $18-$22 several times. When I sell here, I will find out the zip code of the buyer first and then charge actual shipping. Its not that easy when dealing with ebay b/c you don't know where the winner lives until afterwards.

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Title: Re: Danny Wiseman selling some of his equipment...
Post by: qstick777 on May 17, 2005, 11:00:59 PM

 
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Buy it now is one thing but a regular auction that can go to whatever a price is different in my mind.

I know that we are going to agree to disagree but it is real bad when a seller comes out and says that he gouges his buyers on purpose.



I think what he meant is that eBay fees are calculated on the final selling price, not on shipping.  

It is cheaper to sell an item at a "loss" if you make the money up on the shipping.  

Example: You sell that ball for $10 and charge $50 for shipping.  Ebay fees are calculated on the $10 (5.25% of the closing value) = $0.53

You sell that same ball for $50 and charge $10 for shipping.  Ebay fees are now calculated to be 5.25% of the initial $25.00 ($1.31), plus 2.75% of the remaining closing value balance ($25.01 to $1,000.00) = $2.00 ($1.31 for 1st $25, and $0.69 for the additional $25 (2.75% of $25).

That's only a $1.47 difference, but why give it to eBay?

Like people have said, people factor in the shipping into their bids.

Same as one this site.  I list a ball for sale with shipping included in the price.  I'm hoping I get lucky and legend4life95 buys it and it only costs me $8-9 to ship (how is that Vendetta?).  If somebody else in Texas, CA, or somewhere further buys it and I'm paying $14-23 to ship it (go to http://wwwapps.ups.com/calTimeCost?loc=en_US and calculate the shipping from the east coast to the west coast).  Play around with the shipping options (drop-off, pick-up, billing to a UPS account, residential address, etc) and see how the cost fluctuates.

I don't think anybody is trying to rip anybody off - shipping tends to even itself out in the end.  I've eaten plenty of shipping costs, and I've made money on shipping too, but I'm probably even in the end.
Title: Re: Danny Wiseman selling some of his equipment...
Post by: legend4life95 on May 17, 2005, 11:05:43 PM
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I'm hoping I get lucky and legend4life95 buys it and it only costs me $8-9 to ship (how is that Vendetta?)



Loving it! That was my second VB...they're just so versatile.
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Title: Re: Danny Wiseman selling some of his equipment...
Post by: stanski on May 18, 2005, 12:25:06 AM
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Buy it now is one thing but a regular auction that can go to whatever a price is different in my mind.

I know that we are going to agree to disagree but it is real bad when a seller comes out and says that he gouges his buyers on purpose.



I think what he meant is that eBay fees are calculated on the final selling price, not on shipping.  

It is cheaper to sell an item at a "loss" if you make the money up on the shipping.  

Example: You sell that ball for $10 and charge $50 for shipping.  Ebay fees are calculated on the $10 (5.25% of the closing value) = $0.53

You sell that same ball for $50 and charge $10 for shipping.  Ebay fees are now calculated to be 5.25% of the initial $25.00 ($1.31), plus 2.75% of the remaining closing value balance ($25.01 to $1,000.00) = $2.00 ($1.31 for 1st $25, and $0.69 for the additional $25 (2.75% of $25).

That's only a $1.47 difference, but why give it to eBay?

Like people have said, people factor in the shipping into their bids.

Same as one this site.  I list a ball for sale with shipping included in the price.  I'm hoping I get lucky and legend4life95 buys it and it only costs me $8-9 to ship (how is that Vendetta?).  If somebody else in Texas, CA, or somewhere further buys it and I'm paying $14-23 to ship it (go to http://wwwapps.ups.com/calTimeCost?loc=en_US and calculate the shipping from the east coast to the west coast).  Play around with the shipping options (drop-off, pick-up, billing to a UPS account, residential address, etc) and see how the cost fluctuates.

I don't think anybody is trying to rip anybody off - shipping tends to even itself out in the end.  I've eaten plenty of shipping costs, and I've made money on shipping too, but I'm probably even in the end.


Exactly, this is what I'm trying to say, evidently many people do not understand the concept.

If you don't have the time, energy, or ability to figure out that $50 shipped is the same whether i put $49.99 with $0.01 shipping and $20 shipping but with $30 original price, you shouldn't be buying on ebay. As a one time heavy ebay seller of non-bowling products, I can tell you that this is a practice that if you don't participate in, you are handing your money over to ebay. Calculate the total shipping cost into the price, bid, and pay the same amount, simple as that.

I guess some people on here would rather have large corporations grab profits than save me money personally. Wouldn't you also say that the people on here who say "$30 shipped" on here are price gouging, since their profit might be anywhere from $10-20 depending on shipping costs?
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Title: Re: Danny Wiseman selling some of his equipment...
Post by: Nollster on May 18, 2005, 09:21:46 AM
You can debate this stuff all you want as long as you don't lose site of the fact that Danny Wiseman is a great guy!!  If you look at the other stuff he sells on his site, it's all reasonably priced and good quality.  If you don't want to pay the $20 for shipping, then DON'T BID!!  I live in York, PA and could've driven down to pick it up if I'd have wanted to deal with the traffic and pay the gas prices (talk about gouging!! ), but it was more convenient to just pay the $20 and get my ball....
Title: Re: Danny Wiseman selling some of his equipment...
Post by: Overhand on June 07, 2005, 09:47:57 AM
geez, guys....this is capitalism.  IF YOU DON'T WANT TO PAY IT, DON'T BID IT.


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Title: Re: Danny Wiseman selling some of his equipment...
Post by: BigWillyStyle on June 07, 2005, 02:57:41 PM
OH OH OH...My turn......



AND THE CROWD GOES WILD...

O!  VER!  HAND!   O!  VER!  HAND!


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Title: Re: Danny Wiseman selling some of his equipment...
Post by: mumzie on June 07, 2005, 10:21:29 PM
FYI - when we ship anything from ebay auction sales, it's actual shipping cost plus a handling fee, which ranges from 50 cents to 1.50. We charge the handling fee because we sell full time on ebay, and spend a FORTUNE on shipping supplies. Bubble wrap, peanuts, bubble mailers, etc.

And - if a package is at all heavy for it's size, we ONLY use fedex ground.
The good news about UPS is that they handle their claims quickly. The bad news is that there's WAAAAYYYY too many of them.
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