Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
Color: Black/Silver All colors do vary somewhat from the picture shown.
Core: High Mass Bias Gas Mask Core with Flip Block
Coverstock: Violent Bite Reactive
RG Differential: 0.049 (Medium-High Flare) on a scale of .000-.080 Low Flare-High Flare
RG Average: 2.51 (Low) on a scale of 2.43-2.80 Very Low-High Break Point
Reaction: Strong hook motion with aggressive backend
Recommended Lane Condition: Heavy Oil
Description: Featuring the High Mass Bias Gas Mask Core with Flip Block and new Violent Bite Reactive coverstock, the Black Widow Bite is what we moderately call “aggressiveâ€. The Black Widow Bite expands the performance offerings in the Black Widow series by offering a stronger hook motion with more aggressive backend. Take that as a warning.
Post by: LanemasterLefty on January 07, 2008, 11:33:28 PM
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Post by: DynoLess Daddy on January 13, 2008, 12:51:40 PM
Bite 1: 6 x 5 (pin up) Smoother through transition but unloaded heavy
Bite 2: 5 x 3.5 xh (pin Down)Abralon to 1000 and polished to 1200 degree. Held turnout and set the back end.
Let me say both of these are welcomed. The bite is clean through the front with OOB and surface change. The similarity is they come of the corner hard.
Med - speed control and lest revs works best
Med-Hev - unload and watch.
The bite enabled a deeper move than the original widow with great carry on the recovery. The key here was for the rever the ball responded to every ounce of hit.
Bowler 2 ( tweener)
Both balls enabled about 6-10 more boards of hook than the original widow.
A monster and wahtch the pin action off the deck..unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Drillmn300 on February 06, 2008, 01:33:37 AM
Very impressed with the hook potential of this one.
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Post by: CoachLefty on February 13, 2008, 10:22:38 AM
BWB- drilled with pin above bridge (5" from pap) and MB in strong location. This drilling is reffered to as an eRICOb drilling where i come from. Put a slight shine on this ball, then hit it with a 4K pad for a second or two. Ball ended up with .875 oz of finger weight and .50125 ozof side weight.
Overall: Ball go long and hook like a mother. This ball has already added 18.2 pins onto my china shot average. I shot 925 with this ball last week, only took me 2 games
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Post by: wisz214 on February 13, 2008, 11:10:27 AM
Right out of the box with no practice I shot 701 with two splits in the last game on a 42 foot THS. Then the next day I go open bowling and shoot 845! All I have to say now is WOW!!!
Post by: Elguapo on February 19, 2008, 10:46:12 PM
Update: I just bowled my second series with the BW Bite with the right surface adjustment. WOW I bowled my first 600 series of my life. At one point I had 7 strikes in a row. This is the best ball I have ever used. F those who couldn't get the BW Bite to work for them. It might be them and not the ball.
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Post by: Monster Stitch on February 24, 2008, 02:14:44 AM
15.04lbs
3oz top
4 inch pin
Layout:
4-1/2 x 4
45 degrees
Pin above and right of ring, MB 3 inches right of thumb
Weight hole 5 inches straight across from center of grip
Advice given by Brian Graham
Pic: http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/7687/blkwidowbiteoa9.jpg
I tried this ball on a few different shots. So far i am impress. The ball is truely 2 to 3 feet earlier then the original Black Widow with a ton of backend. This ball revs so hard in the midlane then when it hits the dry it takes off. The ball is versatile to different hand positions. I recently used this ball during practice on a 38ft shot on AMF Synthetic that is usually an 8 to 8 shot with medium to heavy oil with 7 and out dry but this time the outside was OB and the backends were tight because of open play. I had the ball surface with 1000 abralon and i played the shot tight striaght up 12 to 8 and the ball still read the midlanes well with a hard arching backend. I even went in deeper and i still had the same reaction. The ball is absolutely amazing. Not only does it handle the fresh but also dominates carrydown.
Another great ball from Hammer.
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Post by: Bowlin for Beer on February 25, 2008, 01:32:38 AM
My average is only 167, and the first day I bowled with this ball I bowled my highest series ever - a 672. Had a 227, 189 (open ninth - pocket 7-10 split), and a 256! Late in the second game I should have moved left. After moving left, from the tenth frame of the second game through the entire third game, it was strikes for all but two frames. I am a crappy bowler and this ball was making me look great. I felt guilty, honestly. First time a rolled the ball before league, I rolled a spare the first frame because it went Brooklyn after that it was six strikes in a row.
Ball was drilled strong - pin to the right of, and slightly above fingers, and mass bias ~ two inches right of thumb. I stood way left and aimed over third arrow moving closer to fourth arrow as the night went on. The ball did need to hit some dry boards to come back, but man - just send it outside anywhere and it comes back to the pocket - like a magnet, unbelievable. The outside shot is normally where I play, but the lanes where I bowl have been tough out there lately - very small margin of error, but inside-out was easy as pie. I had a good five boards of error at the down lane break-point. Even a couple of grabbed releases went for strikes - The ball should be illegal.
I only hope my bowling can live up to the performance of this ball.
Post by: Will07 on February 27, 2008, 06:41:46 PM
Drilled: Stacked, not an overly aggressive drilling, the ball still easily opens up the lane.
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Style: I’m a cranker speed around 17 mph, rpm around 450 slightly more on some shots.
First Impression: At first I had problems controlling this ball. The reaction was either hook/set or it would just burn up soon as it hit the lanes. I brought the surface to 2000/polished and liked the reaction shot a few 700’s but still wasn’t very happy with the overall performance. After about 50 games I decided to bring the ball to 2000 without polish. This change seemed to bring the ball to life. Now this ball kills fresh oil.
Reaction: The type of reaction I got out of the 2000/polish was length with a large snapping backend. Slightly hard to control. Without polish the ball still clears the heads make a big transition around 40 feet and has an incredible backend, like a huge dependable arc/snap reaction but with a controllable mid lane transition/set up.
Comparisons: The backend is very similar to my Hammer No Mercy, but with a midlane that the no mercy lacks.
Strengths: Heavily oiled heads, clean backends.
Weaknesses: Dry heads/short patterns
Overall: The Bite is a very good ball. The carry is excellent, and the roll consistent. I recently shot 664 in the last three games of a U.S Open qualifier. A little to jumpy for the fresh, but once the pattern opened in the mid lane the ball was insane, when everyone struggled in the transition to burn, I stood out in the field.
Video: A simple video on THS 42 feet freshly oiled.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PrOf3OMioc
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Post by: BBU on March 11, 2008, 03:13:31 AM
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Post by: mr300ny on March 27, 2008, 10:32:58 PM
High Game:300
High Series: 798
Post by: ddown88 on March 28, 2008, 08:31:29 PM
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Post by: StudGodBowler on May 17, 2008, 04:06:26 PM
Well I drilled my bite with the pin at 3 oclock of course it was a litle off label with one half ounce side weight and no finger weights. Can you still mention static weights on here? House shot top hat. Kegel defense. lanes fresh as a daisys buttox.Im a tweener with decent ball speed medium revs (DUH).
Ball did not hit like advertised it was very soft in the pocket and left many ten pins. Id stay away from thi ball unless you are a high rev player.
Needless to say id rather see the 40 something player in a better peice of equipment.Storm Gravity Shift or Brunswick twisted fury. If you get to read this before they remove it. Good Luck and Great Bowling
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Post by: mr300ny on August 19, 2008, 10:04:36 PM
Ive averaged 210 for a season with it and have had multiple 700s.
I also use it on a PBA Teen Sport Shot league.
I've found the most sucess with it on the scorpion, shark and cheetah patterns. On the scorpion and shark, i took a little off of my revs
(400+ revs) and i averaged just under 200. On the cheetah pattern, i hook the entire lane and since it is drilled to snap violently in the backend, it just took off. I average around 205 on the Cheetah pattern. Last week, i shot a 741 on it. Ball is pretty much good all around. Im 17 years old btw.
High Game: 300
High Series: 798
High Game (sport): 297
High Series (sport): 741
Post by: rch18960 on August 24, 2008, 06:48:13 PM
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Post by: Pinmaster7 on August 30, 2008, 04:06:46 PM
Its a amazing ball despite of all the bad reviews, and i apologize for those who got this ball defective. mine works pretty good. All in all its a great ball if you maintain it properly.
Post by: tdbowler on October 05, 2008, 02:42:36 AM
Post by: PremierBowlersProShop on October 11, 2008, 11:58:45 PM
Lane Conditions: Medium-Heavy Oil
Typical Conditions: House Shot
Type of Lane: All Synthetic
What part of the lane did you play? Third Arrow
Did the ball track out? Normal
Weight of bowling ball: 15
Surface of bowling ball: Sanded
What grit was the surface of the ball? 1000
Likes: Makes a very strong and continuous move through out the entire lane.
Dislikes: Hooks way to much and early on drier lane conditions.
Lay Out 3 3/8 X 4
Overall it's very versatile will take a polish well to help get done the lane some. It's going to be mostly an oil ball. Rev Dominate players will have to use only in oil, Speed dominate players can use in heavier but will be best suited for medium oil lanes. Doesn't really match up very well on dry lane conditions.
Comparing to What's In My Bag:
Pin Slasher with same layout gets a little more length than the Black Widow Bite, and makes a much angular motion to the pocket. The Bite is more continuous and overall covers more boards.
Black Widow Venom with same layout reacts exactly like the Black Widow Bite with the same surface. But the polish makes it go longer and give you the same continuous motion just later on the lane.
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Post by: pin-chaser on November 03, 2008, 09:30:40 AM
Ball Speed: ~16Mph through pin deck (~20 off hand)
Layout: 5.5x 5 Pin Above
Surface: Box
Expectations: Strong for Oil
Impression:
I got this ball to fight a heavy oil THS condition. I wanted a ball that jumps off the spot after traveling through heavy oil. The shot is a big top hat about 40 feet.
I got what I wanted. Playing 13 to 8 the ball got angular for me and my scores went up. I felt that it could get better so I took the surface down to 2000 and it did playing 15 to 8. However when the pattern breaks down and I get my feet left to 20 to 8 it looses hit. I pull out the Venom and it is too weak. I needed a ball inbetween. So I got a BW perl.
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Post by: Blacknats11 on November 11, 2008, 03:10:00 AM
Pin Placement: Pin over Gripline
just got this ball. So far it hooks a lot and pretty aggressive in the backend.... definitely a great ball for fresh oil, but when it comes to the dry lanes ill stick to my "Drilled to go Way long" total inferno
Post by: agroves on November 12, 2008, 06:08:43 AM
Ball Weight - 15lbs
DRILL PATTERN
Ball #1
Pin to PAP – 4 1/2"
MB Location from PAP – 2 1/2"
http://www.bowlingballexchange.com/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=4&id=2983
Ball #2
Pin to PAP - 5 1/2"
MB Location from PAP - 4"
http://www.bowlingballexchange.com/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=4&id=2984
BOWLER STYLE
Rev Rate - 325ish
Ball Speed - 17 by the quibica
PAP/Track - 5 1/2 right, 1/2 up
SURFACE PREPARATION
Ball #1--2000 Abralon
Ball #2--4000 Abralon plus polish
LANE CONDITION
Typical House Shot--40ft--med to heavy
USBC Open Championships
Rotogrip Challenge pattern
Variety of Sport patterns
I tried up my first BW Bite with the intention of adding med to heavy oil assy ball to my lineup. With OOB surface, it handled oil fairly well. I added some surface to enhance this feature. It became my go-to ball as far as my tournament arsenal goes. The short mb to pap position gives me a early read of the midlane and moderately smooth backend motion. This ball works well with fresh oil and sharp backends.
I liked the 1st BW Bite so much I drilled another. This time I wanted something alittle longer and sharper on the back. This layout gave me exactly that. It worked exceptionally well on our house shot towards the end of last season. This layout revs up late in the midlane and charges on the back.
I used nothing but my BW Bites last year at the Open Championships. My all-events score was 1960+ and I brought home over $1500 in earnings(rotogrip, brackets, tourney finishes) from the event.
Overall, the BW Bite has been a welcome addition to my arsenal.
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Post by: SteveAustin2808 on November 21, 2008, 09:34:40 PM
Weight: 15#
Top Weight: 3 oz.
Pin: 3-4"
Layout:
4 1/2" Pin Above the Ring Finger with Mass Bias @ 45 degrees. No Weight Hole.
First Impressions:
The Bite was very strong and burned up very quickly for me. I had a lot of over/under problems with this one in the beginning. The Pearl provided a better look for me comparatively to the Bite.
Overall Thoughts:
When the oil was very impressionable, the Bite reacted very well as it was suited for. Once the lanes started thinning out and the heads burnt up, the Bite was too much ball as this was where I saw the over/under very apparent. Bad when the lanes broke down, great when the lanes were slicked up!
Comparison/Contrast:
BWP vs. BWB
Bite works better on heavier oil conditions. Pearl provides better backend reaction and is cleaner through the heads. Pearl has more backend reaction and works better on medium oil conditions.
Final Thoughts:
I feel the Bite can be a great sport condition ball where oil is heavier in volume or on house conditions that tend to stack a puddle in the middle however, after the oil starts to dry up, I would put it back in the bag.
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Post by: Psyco Diver 69 on May 07, 2009, 02:54:59 AM
Post by: stopncrank on June 29, 2009, 04:57:20 PM
style: high rev cranker, med high ball speed with the ability to cut revs and angle if needed.
ball drilling: 5" pin to pap, mb in strong position, with a low hole on val.
got this ball from a buddy who had this ball and the original widow. he didnt like the bite so he let me have it. i needed an oiler at the time, just in case i ran into some heavy stuff in tournaments. enter the widow bite.
after punching this ball out i headed to the lanes, which just happend to be freshly oiled. after a few warmups i tossed the bite. one thing i noticed is the continuation i get with this ball. this ball is extremely strong for me on ths's.with this drilling i have to cross alot of boards on a regular house shot. this ball is not bad at all, they're are just better options for me on house shots, especially with my rev rate. i tryed polishing it and i did not like the reaction i got out of it. so now it stays at 2000 with no polish. for me its too much ball for regular shots. pba shots ive used it with success are scorpion and shark. its really great for me when ive got volume up front and decent backends. i recently drilled up a virtual gravity, and comparing the two overall hook is about the same. the widow bite is a good 5-6 boards less on the back, and no where near the continuation. its a great 1-2 punch for heavier stuff for me, if the pattern is jumping on the back i use the widow bite, if im not getting a strong enough reaction with the bite i choose the vg. overall, the widow is one of the better high-end balls ive had in a long time. i dont get alot of use out of high end balls, but this one will stay in my bag for a while. id give it a 9.5 outta ten, its a great ball. strokers will find this to be a strong ball overall, and they will probably benefit from the power this ball creates. surface changes and weaker drillings will be advised. tweeners will find a ball with enough power to let them venture into cranker land. crankers will find this ball to be a little condition specific. you will need head oil, lol! if i had it to do over with, i'd have went longer on my pin to pap distance to give me more length. overall a great ball for the soup!
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Post by: steveo1996 on September 21, 2009, 03:14:31 AM
Put the ball in the oven at 100 degrees for 10 mins and use alcohol to wipe all the oil out and repeat that 3 or 4 times. Brings it back to life for 30 games or so. Don't go any hotter than 100.
Overall, when it is reacting, it rips racks like no other ball I have thrown. Wish it didn't soak full of oil so bad though.
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Post by: dman79 on November 01, 2010, 06:52:51 AM
. If you come across one used for a good price, I'd recommend buying it - it's a great all-purpose oiler.
Post by: lane shark on November 14, 2010, 03:05:46 PM
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Post by: titletowncards on December 31, 2010, 01:25:35 PM
BALL SPECS
Pin Length: 3.5"
Ball Weight: 15.4 lbs.
DRILL PATTERN
Pin to PAP: 5"
CG to PAP: 4.5"
X Hole (if there is one): None
BOWLER STYLE
Ball Speed: 15-16 mph
Track: High
SURFACE PREP
Grit: 4000 Abralon w/ Factory Finish Polish
Type: Polish
LANE CONDITION
Length: 44ft.
Volume: Heavy
Type:THS
BALL REACTION
Length: Very good length, but good in oil.
Back End: Strongest backend I've ever had.
Overall Hook: Long and strong would be the best way to describe this ball. I had to add some polish to get it down the lane farther and tame it down a bit.
Midlane Read: Not too much.
Breakpoint Shape: Sharp, but not skid/snap
COMMENTS
Likes: Very strong backend, very good oil ball, had to add some polish to it to tame it down, hits very hard likely created by the angle of entry. This is my only Black Widow in the series of the ball, I traded for it used, does exactly what I intended it to do, using it on a heavy volume 44ft. THS it's been my go to ball as of late.
Dislikes: OOB surface was way to strong for me, but that's why they make polish.
Overall
Came out about 3 years ago, still a nice piece, glad I picked one up on trade.
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