Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
Color: Toxic Green/Silver All colors do vary somewhat from the picture shown.
Coverstock: Max-Flip Reactiveâ„¢ with Traction Pearl
Core: Modified Raw Hammer
Reaction: Length with strong backend
RG Differential: 0.045 (Medium Flare) on a scale of .000-.080 Low Flare-High Flare
RG Average: 2.50 (Low) on a scale of 2.43-2.80 Very Low-High Break Point
Length: 28 (on a scale of 1-30)
Hook Potential: 25 (on a scale of 1-30)
Finish: Polished
Recommended Lane Conditions: Medium Oil
Post by: ROARING RUFUS on December 23, 2006, 06:54:27 PM
Upon using the Raw Hammer Toxic, it truly is a strong piece of equipment!
Had the ball laid out RG early lay-out, pin on axis point, hooks early with extreme stable ball motion. I find this to be another GREAT ball from Hammer! All those who have this ball, will indeed LOVE it!! Go to your local Pro-Shop, especailly:
ED MOORES CUSTOM PRO-SHOP, LOCATED IN BOWLING GREEN SPORTS CENTER IN WEST CHICAGO, IL. (630)562-2117
He is the drill master!!!!! So buy the Toxic Hammer & you can really go Toxic to the Pocket!!
MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY HOLIDAYS, & HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL BALL REVIEWS MEMBERS!!
P.S.
Keep on rollin'
Roaring Rufus
Post by: pba6285 on December 25, 2006, 12:27:24 AM
PAP 5 1/8 x 1/8
Ball has a strong predictable roll no real over/under at all
I had a 300 with the ball (First in over 6 yrs) and have had my highest set in 12 yrs a 789 (I had 1028 for Four in that set.)
Needless to say I like the bsll.
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Post by: D McLaughlin on December 31, 2006, 10:38:13 AM
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I am a fan of whatever ball is going to fatten my bank account.
Post by: bigkev on January 22, 2007, 10:30:48 AM
Post by: BWI on January 29, 2007, 02:26:49 AM
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Post by: JMORRIS on February 01, 2007, 04:39:16 PM
First impression: LONG AND STRONG! This ball, with this layout has a ton of backend!
The only way I've been able to use it is to keep my wrist weak and try not to turn it. The ball just explodes the pins! If I get too much hand or soft with my speed, it cuts right through the heart though!
First game X X big 4, greek church, X X X X X XXX
I hope once I get some more games on it, it will settle down and not have such an all or nothing reaction.
*UPDATE* After about 8-9 practice games with this ball, I felt confident enough to use it in league last night and the results were awesome!
255 246 244 = 745!
Thanks for this great piece of equipment Hammer!
Post by: istrike300 on February 03, 2007, 12:46:06 PM
Easier through the heads and stronger backend than the Doom. Cover can be a little sensitive to the wet/dry oil line, but once the surface is adjusted for the individual...lights out!
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Post by: 7 SPLIT 10 on March 02, 2007, 01:42:44 PM
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Post by: majik13 on March 06, 2007, 09:30:58 AM
Specs on me:
Left Handed
Tweener/Stroker
Ball Speed 15 - 16 mph
Average Revs
Specs on the Ball:
Pin -- 3 7/8"
Top Weight -- 2 3/4 oz.
Specs on my drill are:
Pin about 7:00 from my ring finger 1/2 inch down
Small balance hole at about 9:00
CG -- not sure
MB -- not exactly sure
This is my first post, and I will get better and more knowledgeable I promise.
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Post by: Fatboy8 on March 27, 2007, 08:10:07 AM
PAP: not sure (right hand)
Layout: Pin under ring, cg kicked right @ 45*, weight hole.
Pin distance: 3" pin
Style: righty, medium revs/stroker
Ball Speed: 15-17
Lane Condition: Fresh THS, heavy synthetics
I wasn't sure of the reaction I would get with this layout, but what I got was even more than I was hoping for. The strength of the Toxic is very misleading. Alot IMO is due to it's "cosmic" colors. You normally associate this color ball, with a light oil ball. NOT THIS ONE!
This ball is ready to hook at the arrows, keep going, and STILL have backend left. Sometimes it's hard to open the lane up, because the aggressiveness makes this thing ready to go left.
I have not adjusted the surface down, only shined up a little more. This Toxic can handle alot of heavier shots, and still has recovery, power at the pins, and a great read. Like the Black Widow, I can adjust left and open the lane up, but it wants to start up a litte sooner than the BW, and overally hook is more.
I believe this and the Widow is an excellent one~two punch. The pin under on the Toxic gives me an early read, alot of mid lane, but still reserves some backend reaction, I believe because of the 4000 surface.
If I'm battling alot of dry, this goes back in the bag, but that's not why I got it for anyway.
Likes: consistentcy, hook, carry, drive at the deck.
Dislikes: alot of dry (but it's not designed for that)
Great ball, and a must have in my book, especially for a tourney.
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Post by: nascard on March 28, 2007, 03:05:25 PM
Dislikes- none really at this point.
Post by: htotheizzo3561 on April 02, 2007, 02:22:57 PM
I drilled the shorter pin, pin under inbetween fingers cg kicked with weight hole. This drilling in the past has allowed me a very controllable wet/dry ball. As the toxic is supposed to handle carry down better than the doom with more angularity, I chose this drilling.
Obb it wasn't bad, was able to play straight on a low volume pattern. Hit very well, and kept the pins low. Would flip, but not excessive, just like i expected.
For the other one, I drilled it just like my 1 pain, pin over ring cg slightly kicked. Obb, ball read dry way to quickly and made a sharp uncontrollable turn. Went deep, and created area, saw potential for this ball.
After two months of using these balls probably around 35 games, I can say that they are not winners. Both balls seem to hit like marshmellows, it actually sounds like glass breaking when the ball hits the pins, 3 other people I spoke to with toxics told me the same thing.
When this happened, I started throwing them on more conditions and playing different lines with differnt releases. They still hit like sh*t. So one is in the backyard rotting, and the other is in the basement only because I shot 300 with it the week after I got it.
When I was at the open, not even the hammer staffers were throwing them, and you could have gotten deep with one when bowling b squad.
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Post by: robbinsdalepro on April 03, 2007, 06:03:03 PM
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Post by: C-G ProShop-Carl on April 05, 2007, 03:05:43 PM
Lane Conditions: various
I am just posting comments as of now because the jury is out on this ball. I have tried coverstock adjustments that just have not worked. So many of the reviews and threads on this site have the bowlers saying how strong the backend is..........typically for me this layout offers more backend than most and so far the Toxic is a 2nd shift ball.
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Post by: Artimust on April 11, 2007, 12:35:16 AM
First throw, strike! Second throw, strike, then a whole bunch of spares and a couple more strikes and ended up with a 210. That's pretty good for me! I'm still inconsistant with my aim, but the Toxic is more forgiving then the SD-73. With the 73, if i miss my mark a couple of boards left, away it goes, beyond brooklyn. With the toxic, even though I miss, it still hits pretty close to the pocket. Does not have the hook of the Classic for me, since I am a stroker with not too much revs, but I really like the Toxic. It goes straight and comes back just enough, plus it looks just so cool going down the lane!
Post by: Jesse James on April 15, 2007, 01:06:53 PM
Anyways, the ball is:
15#er- no weight hole
Ball has a 3.5" pin
Surface:OOB, except I hit it with a grey pad to take some of the shine off it and give me a little more control.
drilled: pin over the ring with the cg in the palm (see my profile)Kind of a
4-7/8 x 5 drilling--in between a regular leverage drill and a stacked flip drilling
Lanes: synthetic, with a very lite oil condition, which tracks up extremely fast, but a slightly higher concentration in the middle.
I tended to play, 13 at the arrows, to about 10 at the breakpoint. A slurve. If I make it thru the second game, I'm 18 at the arrows, 10 at the breakpoint with an increase in speed.
So far, I have never shot down and in with this ball. It is, much like the Doom, skid-snappish. Since I have a weak, backendy drill on this ball, it tends to be rather condition specific. The bad part about this ball is I can always use it on the fresh shot. It really shines on the fresh, but there is a severe dropoff after that. I usually have to put it away after the second game, if I make it thru the second game. The ball has really paid for itself on fresh shots! After that, I lose a lot of confidence in it, in consistency and in being able to just pick up spares routinely.
The Doom on the other hand was strong if you drilled it strong, and weak but playable, if you drilled it weak. The Doom was much more versatile, and consistent, and I could play all over the lanes with it. Down and in, up the boards, inside, or even down the middle.
I love the bright green color of this ball, but honestly, not everybody can use this ball. I know this may sound crazy, but what I see on the backend when I throw this......is a ball, with the initial skid-snap move of the Doom, but the final movement like a Black Widow. Now if this were a solid, or a particle pearl, that would be a great combination. But because this is a pearl, it makes the ball very over/under and "iffy" at times. Just my take.
Oh, and I have posted some extremely high scores with this ball, and won a few pots as well. However...
The jury is still out....
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Post by: CARDSFANAM on April 17, 2007, 11:43:48 AM
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Goodnight doctor, that feels good!
Post by: terplife03 on May 25, 2007, 01:02:06 PM
Drilled Pin under ring right in line with cg about 2 inches under.
Bowled on a few different conditions. Lane #1 is pretty wet and Lane #2 is more on the medium-dry side.
Used this ball OOB and had some pretty good success with it right away. Ball has a VERY sharp backend, and it can be very snappy if not used on the right conditions. I left more splits with this ball then I have ever left with any other ball. This only holds true when trying to use this ball on carrydown. If I were you I would not try it, because it could get ugly. It just gets so jumpy and unpredictable off of the dry that it is best to just put it away.
Now for the good part. On fresh conditions this ball will give you a really clean but very strong look. It is forgiving if you miss outside, but I wouldnt reccommend pulling it, because it can be unforgiving. The backend isnt booming, but it is very sharp and angular, and it happens all of a sudden. Sometimes I didnt think it was going to hook and it just suprised the hell out of me how hard it snapped back. As for medium lane conditions, or even a little medium heavy on a fresh shot, this can be a great ball. If your looking for something more versatile, I would suggest possibly going with the Doom. All of this is also based off of me throwing from the left side, so all of these condtions increase on the right by far. I recently have taken it down to 2000 polished to try to combat the carrydown a little, but have not experimented much.
I did win the San Diego City Tournament with this ball though. It was a medium house shot, and being on the left side, this ball just ate it up.
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Post by: Lightning1 on June 18, 2007, 02:29:14 PM
I have had this ball trying to figure out how I want to drill it and finally made the decision to drill
Had my pro-shop drill it for length with a more angular break point. I play generally on lanes that are medium to light and felt this would give me the most length and success compared to my current arsenal.
Pin about 1" right of ring finger about 3.75" from PAP (which I thought was kinda tight but I was wrong)
My current arsenal allows me to play up and in or strong arcs to the pocket...This drilling gives me a different look into the pocket as I found out.
I played 2 games immediately after drilled and was quite impressed with the results..
I threw my first ball standing right foot on center arrow, throwing from 15 out to 8 and it came back on Brooklyn side....gave me a basic line..
Moved out to 30 on right foot, threw across 3rd arrow out to about the 6 or 7 board to a break point approximately 15 feet from pin deck....Ball came back hard and late....Ball slid through heads clean and kept line through midlane. As it got into the dry, read quick and hard....
I was really impressed with the reaction through the pins and how the ball read the lanes. At the time, I was bowling on a 40' house shot (dry from 5 out)
I shot a 189 194 pair, which isn't bad since I am about a 170 ave bowler right now...
Post by: FastTracker33 on August 01, 2007, 05:04:21 AM
Layout - Pin 4 3/4 from PAP, with CG kicked right. Weight hole was also used.
Layout Pic - http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/TheOne9110/100_0656.jpg
Stats are as follows:
PAP - 5 1/4 OVER, 1/8 DOWN
Speed - About 15mph or somewhat lower
Revs - Lower-Medium, can go on a higher Medium rev rate if necessary.
Reaction Wanted: A good amount of length, with a sharp flip on the backend. Also with a strong hit since it would be flipping so hard.
Reaction Received: The length i wanted (about 40 feet till it sets up), but it's very oil sensitive, which causes the loss on the backend flip. Sometimes so oil sensitive that it loses almost all its hitting power leaving weak pocket 5's, pocket 8-10's, etc. If used on a LIGHTER pattern, the ball is amazing. It gives the strongest hit, and carries excellent! This ball, for me, is by no means a Medium oil ball.
Overall: This ball is a keeper and is still, since the day i got it, the only ball i use in league. I'm very happy with it. My only problem, like stated above, is its oil sensitivity. Maybe a 4000 grit surface will help? But anyway, this ball really comes through whenever i need it to. I can't play very deep angles with it. I was able to the first day i got it, but not anymore. I usually have a line like this. Feet standing on 20, shoot for 10, breakpoint around 7-8. That is NOT my comfortable line, but hey, it works for me right now. I wouldn't mind another Toxic, and would highly recommend it for LIGHT oil lanes. A very light medium at the most IMO.
I hope this review helped in some way/shape/or form. If there's any additional questions on something i missed, or something you would like to know, then LMK! Thanks for reading
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Post by: ccrider on August 20, 2007, 08:02:15 PM
I cleaned and resurfaced the ball on my spinner, taking it down to 180 grit and then back up to 4000 abralon. I then put an extra shine on the ball with bean's polish. The ball was as slick as glass. I was trying to put the cover in a condition where the ball would go long, so that I could play the ball after the lanes got too dry for my mean machine.
I have bowled two league nights with the ball and the results have been much better than I expected. The first night (on wood), after struggling the first game with my mean machine and bowling 167, (the lanes had light oil and it is hard for me to put the mean machine down)I picked up the Toxic, affectionately called kermit by the guys at the lane, and proceeded to bowl a 197 and 223. The ball easily made it through the heads, and did not overreact when it hit the dry.
The second night(brunswick synthetics), I started with the Toxic because the shot was light oil, and bowled 196, 204 and 214. I had 5 in a row in the last game, opened the 9th frame and threw a split in the tenth and still ended up with a 214.
For my style, this ball is the answer. It hits hard, is easy to control, keeps the pins low and has great carry.
I have already ordered a new Toxic just in case this one breaks or dies, which does not seem likely since it had great use on it when I bought it.
If you are looking for a good ball at a good price, give this ball some consideration.
Charles
Post by: SteveAustin2808 on November 04, 2007, 10:07:58 PM
Weight: 15#
Pin Placement: 2-3"
Top Weight: 3 oz.
Layout:
4 1/4" Pin Below the Ring Finger. CG kicked out 1-2". Weight Hole 5" over from mid-line.
Picture: http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6669273
First Impressions:
Back in February, I drilled up a Toxic with the same layout as described on my DOOM review. The TOXIC with that layout was very squirty for me and not a whole lot of "AWE" when it came down to reaction. Now, 7 months later, I decided that I would punch another one up and give it another try, this time with a different layout. I went with the same layout as my ANGER. This time, the ball gave me a different reaction and a better look.
General Thoughts:
With the Pearl additive, I definitely saw quite a bit of length but the backend reaction was phenomenal compared to the first TOXIC I drilled back in Feb. I played mostly straighter angles with this ball as the house I usually bowl at has widen the outside up and put a bit more oil in the middle.
Comparison/Contrast:
TOXIC vs. DOOM
I feel the DOOM is a more consistent piece than the TOXIC was. The TOXIC with its pearl additive gave me alot more length than what I really need vs. the DOOM which just reads the heads better for me and gives me a consistent reaction.
TOXIC vs. ANGER
The ANGER gets into its roll earlier than the TOXIC while the TOXIC gives more length, obviously. The TOXIC is however alot cleaner and smoother through the heads whereas the ANGER can handle the oil a tad bit better. A very good 1-2 combo in any arsenal.
Conclusion:
I really like how the DOOM is compared to all three, but the TOXIC serves its purpose. I feel it is overall more stronger than the DOOM and is less aggressive than the ANGER. You could definitely drill these 3 and have a really good 3 ball arsenal. The pricepoint is definitely a steal in my eyes!
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Post by: tigerwoodsgolf345 on February 01, 2008, 03:55:04 PM
Weight 15#
Layout: strong layout
I really like this ball last year, but let the price keep me away from it. At first I couldn't get the ball to do what I wanted it to do and threw many gutters. I even wanted to sell the ball. Now that I have given it time this ball works great. This ball goes long down the lane and then hooks into the pocket. Some times I throw the ball on the wrong arrow or don't follow through, the ball still went Brooklyn. this ball can even be thrown out to the gutter and still hit the pocket. I haven't had any really high scores yet but my league scores are getting better.
The only bad thing I have to say about this ball is that when the ball came back through the ball return it got nicked twice in almost the same spot. this makes me really mad because I have only had my ball for a month. I have never had that happen to any of my other balls at this alley.
Nothing hits like a hammer.
Post by: stormfanken on April 10, 2008, 05:28:58 PM
Post by: keithsweat on June 03, 2008, 02:16:34 PM
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Pesky 10 pin!!!
Post by: scotty woo on June 17, 2008, 03:52:18 AM
over all, its my best ball, and it upped my adverage from 195 to 205
Post by: webejr04 on August 21, 2008, 10:45:44 PM
Post by: Conkfl on May 19, 2010, 04:27:24 PM
starting! (After 1 1/2 years, I have found only 1 night when the oil could not be overcome by this ball. THAT night I had to resort to my Plastic "MAXIM"
10-Pin ball to score!)
Extra Note: My Raw HAMMER TOXIC is drilled with a left-hand offset and is
used stictly for 1st.-ball strike attempts, and 2nd-ball pins left
on the left-half of the alley. I quickly discovered 10 pins are
virtually impossible to pick up! (For 2nd-ball pins on the right
half of the alley, I use a Plastic "MAXIM".)